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Old 05-11-2008, 09:21 AM
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Default EB2 India: No Movement even possible retrogession

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Based on an IV member's discussions with a high ranking official in DOS
There may be no further movements in EB2 India category for the rest of the year (July onwards till Oct).
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1. This probably does not affect June Visa bulletien
2. I am aware of this http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/cut_off_dates.html

A retrogression is a possibility.
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:03 AM
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What about the other EB categories?

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Based on an IV member's discussions with a high ranking official in USCIS.
There will be no further movement in EB2 India category for the rest of the year.
A retrogression is a possibility.
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:20 AM
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Default That is BAD news for person like me

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Based on an IV member's discussions with a high ranking official in USCIS.
There will be no further movement in EB2 India category for the rest of the year.
A retrogression is a possibility.
Its not a good sign.. No hope for my PD till 2015...
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:30 AM
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Based on an IV member's discussions with a high ranking official in USCIS.
There will be no further movement in EB2 India category for the rest of the year.
A retrogression is a possibility.
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:04 AM
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Based on an IV member's discussions with a high ranking official in USCIS.
There will be no further movement in EB2 India category for the rest of the year.
A retrogression is a possibility.
Till when? even there will no movement after the new FY starts? i mean Oct 2008
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:55 AM
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Based on an IV member's discussions with a high ranking official in USCIS.
There will be no further movement in EB2 India category for the rest of the year.
A retrogression is a possibility.
Does this mean EB2 remains at Jan'04 and not move to Apr'04 as indicated by June bulletin (http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/cut_off_dates.html) at Mumbai consulate?
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Old 05-11-2008, 01:03 PM
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Retrogression based on what? Can you provide some more details? Also, what about the June bulletin at Mumbai consulate?

I hope you are not trying to post something to stir everyone up.

PS: Don't give me red dots for voicing my thoughts
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Old 05-11-2008, 01:04 PM
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Based on an IV member's discussions with a high ranking official in USCIS.
There will be no further movement in EB2 India category for the rest of the year.
A retrogression is a possibility.
Singhsa I think you meant DOS official rather than CIS as DOS decides the VB. Also it seems likely that there should be some movement in india EB2 in July followed by a possible retrogression. The reason being EB1 is still C and according to Murthy article some time ago where Mr. Oppenheimer ( quite possibly the source of the person you mentioned in your post) said that there is not enough demand for EB1 , meaning they will spill over to EB2 india and china. Also spill over from EB2 ROW will be to EB2 india and china ( that is already happening)
All this together means some forward movement for EB2 india and china. Not sure for how long though. However if CIS suddenly becomes efficient than none of this may come true.
MY 2 cents.
Please let me know what you think
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Old 05-11-2008, 01:52 PM
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Based on an IV member's discussions with a high ranking official in USCIS.
There will be no further movement in EB2 India category for the rest of the year.
A retrogression is a possibility.
Knowing the reality,it is the time to wake up and work aggressively.
To my knowledge, a continuous IV Team's campaign (with rotation of team of volunteers) in DC will be the best choice at this moment.

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Old 05-11-2008, 01:55 PM
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July marks the beginning of the last quarter and my understanding was that the numbers are released per quarter.

Wonder who is the IV member who did the speaking and who did he speak to? Would he mind coming forward and sharing the details firsthand?

Also, I wonder why are we so narrowly focussed on EB2 India. Whether Eb2 moves or not doesn't really solve the aggravating retrogression faced by a majority of our EB3 India & China brothers.





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There will be no further movement in EB2 India category for the rest of the year.
A retrogression is a possibility.
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Old 05-11-2008, 03:10 PM
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Though this is not what we hoped for, it was pretty much expected. People seem to forget that the USCIS receieved 300K applications to adjust status in July '07 (Note that EB2 ROW was already current). I am surprised it has moved up to June 2004, given that the BEC cleared over 300K applications.

It seems the only reason it has moved to June 2004 is because USCIS is not able to process enough cases (which causes the visa numbers to be available). If you look at , there are plenty of EB2-I in 2003 and earlier who have not got their GCs yet. So even if the PD became current tomorow, there is still a pretty long wait ahead of us.

The only way it will make any difference to our community now is if the bill to recapture visas and remove the country cap passes. Or at the very least, an admin fix that removes the requirement for a job offer in the same occupational classification when the I-485 is adjudicated.

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A retrogression is a possibility.
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Old 05-11-2008, 04:05 PM
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It's been clarified many times that the '300k' LC from BEC is rumor.

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Though this is not what we hoped for, it was pretty much expected. People seem to forget that the USCIS receieved 300K applications to adjust status in July '07 (Note that EB2 ROW was already current). I am surprised it has moved up to June 2004, given that the BEC cleared over 300K applications.

It seems the only reason it has moved to June 2004 is because USCIS is not able to process enough cases (which causes the visa numbers to be available). If you look at , there are plenty of EB2-I in 2003 and earlier who have not got their GCs yet. So even if the PD became current tomorow, there is still a pretty long wait ahead of us.

The only way it will make any difference to our community now is if the bill to recapture visas and remove the country cap passes. Or at the very least, an admin fix that removes the requirement for a job offer in the same occupational classification when the I-485 is adjudicated.
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Old 05-11-2008, 05:44 PM
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Check this out:

http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/eta/eta20071483.htm

A mere 30K approvals in EB2-I is enough to set you back by 10 years.

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Old 05-11-2008, 05:57 PM
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If you look at the IV Tracker and painfully count the number of EB2-IN cases, it seems possible that as few as 8000 people might be in line before Oct05 (my PD as an example). Out of all EB2-IN applicants out there, how many do you think have reported on IV / ? My guess was one out of three - i could be wrong.

Just a suggestion - we (IV members) could start contacting our friends / acquaintances and get them to sign up for IV and post their data or at the least we should get their info and add it to the database.

The USCIS / DOS are not transparent enough, but we can forget them and get our own information. I'm pretty sure that such a campaign has been run in the past, maybe we could do it again.
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July marks the beginning of the last quarter and my understanding was that the numbers are released per quarter.

Wonder who is the IV member who did the speaking and who did he speak to? Would he mind coming forward and sharing the details firsthand?

Also, I wonder why are we so narrowly focussed on EB2 India. Whether Eb2 moves or not doesn't really solve the aggravating retrogression faced by a majority of our EB3 India & China brothers.
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