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Old 09-13-2007, 11:31 PM
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Thumbs up Let's sing the Anthem in DC!

Hey guys, I suggest that when we all gather at the Washington monument that we start the rally by all singing the American Anthem, if we'll have a sound system someone with a good voice can lead and we all will join in. Then, as soon as we reach the Capitol we should sing it again! This will show our dedication and love for the U.S. and differentiate us from the illegals. We could also recite the Pledge of Alleigance. We are Future Americans after all! (officially, because we are already Americans in our hearts)

For those who don't know the Anthem by heart, here are the lyrics, you can print them and bring them to the rally and use them when we all sing it together. Thoughts? Also, brng your U.S. flag with you!

The Star Spangled Banner

Oh, say! can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming;
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?

And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there:
Oh, say! does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
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I can lead the anthem, if need be.
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Hey guys, I suggest that when we all gather at the Washington monument that we start the rally by all singing the American Anthem, if we'll have a sound system someone with a good voice can lead and we all will join in. Then, as soon as we reach the Capitol we should sing it again! This will show ou dedication and love for the U.S. and differentiate us from the illegals. We could also recite the Pledge of Alleigance.

For those who don't know the Anthem by heart, here are the lyrics, you can print them and bring them to the rally and use them when we all sing it together. Thoughts?

The Star Spangled Banner

Oh, say! can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming;
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?

And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there:
Oh, say! does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
Yes, actually we must have band and music - one member from NY chapter suggested that every rally must have music, I did bring this up with core

But if no music, yes we can all sing star spangled banner - Offocurse music gives more effect
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I can lead the anthem, if need be.
Great Pankajkakkar! Your talent would be an enormous conribution! Let's see what Core suggests! I vote for you!!!
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I think this is a really bad idea. Green Card is fine.. but remember, we are first Indian, Chinese.. we are citizens of our countries..and owe allegiance to it....atleast till the time you get your american citizenship.
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I think this is a really bad idea. Green Card is fine.. but remember, we are first Indian, Chinese.. we are citizens of our countries..and owe allegiance to it....atleast till the time you get your american citizenship.
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I think this is a really bad idea. Green Card is fine.. but remember, we are first Indian, Chinese.. we are citizens of our countries..and owe allegiance to it....atleast till the time you get your american citizenship.
I was hesitating to say that. But you said it. People please don't get me wrong. Yesterday went to my son’s school for "back to school night". Before anything starts they have "pledge of allegiance". Now, I am not disrespectful to the American flag or any other flag, I do stand up on such occasions but I don't say the pledge of allegiance nor do I have my hand pressed against my chest. Most of the time my hand is holding my sons hand pressing it against his chest, trying to make him understand about the love and respect for their country.

God know how many times I have heard the same question from my kids. “How come daddy you ask us to do that and you yourself don’t do it?” Now what do I tell them, “Its going to take about $20 years (the way things are progressing)”.
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On one hand we want to hasten the GC process so that we can become citizens and enjoy all the freedom and benefits, and on the other hand, we are hesitant to sing the US national anthem?

Anyway, not everyone has to sing the anthem. I know the words but I find it too difficult to sing it anyway. But there is no harm in someone else singing it to show respect.
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On one hand we want to hasten the GC process so that we can become citizens and enjoy all the freedom and benefits, and on the other hand, we are hesitant to sing the US national anthem?

Anyway, not everyone has to sing the anthem. I know the words but I find it too difficult to sing it anyway. But there is no harm in someone else singing it to show respect.
This topic is like religion, very personal, best to be left alone
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Choosing to sing or not to sing the Anthem is everyone's right. Even some Americans refuse to recite the Pledge of Alleigance. Yet, at IV we call ourselves what we are "Future Americans" and therefore this is our Anthem. Just like many of us are from India, China or elsewhere most Americans also have foreign ancestors and feel a closeness to those countries on some level. Yet, the idea here is to show respect for our new country, the country that we have adopted, and which has adopted us.

Americans appreciate people who come to America for true love of the country and wanting to assimilate and contribute to its greatness. Look at what the illegals did in their rallies carrying Mexican flags and translating the Anthem into Spanish, rightfully angering American citzens. This is our opportunity to understcore how totally different we are from illegals and how we have earned and deserve our green cards.

For those of you who are not ready to sing the Anthem as your own country's anthem, then perhaps you can sing it just as a show of respect for the country that has welcomed you. What do you guys think?
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Choosing to sing or not to sing the Anthem is everyone's right. Even some Americans refuse to recite the Pledge of Alleigance. Yet, at IV we call ourselves what we are "Future Americans" and therefore this is our Anthem. Just like many of us are from India, China or elsewhere most Americans also have foreign ancestors and feel a closeness to those countries on some level. Yet, the idea here is to show respect for our new country, the country that we have adopted, and which has adopted us.

Americans appreciate people who come to America for true love of the country and wanting to assimilate and contribute to its greatness. Look at what the illegals did in their rallies carrying Mexican flags and translating the Anthem into Spanish, rightfully angering American citzens. This is our opportunity to understcore how totally different we are from illegals and how we have earned and deserve our green cards.

For those of you who are not ready to sing the Anthem as your own country's anthem, then perhaps you can sing it just as a show of respect for the country that has welcomed you. What do you guys think?
Despite the great amount of respect i have for IV and its activities i wish to point out two things:

1. The americans of yore - who came here - came here because they were either trying to escape abject poverty and hunger or religious persecution........i dont believe that is the case with most highly skilled workers.we just came here for a "delta" change in our lives.....instead of the sony 27" tv - getting a 42" flat panel type of change and not torn hand me down clothes to armani type of change....so, lets not compare apples to oranges - i.e us to the settlers of 16th-19th century

2. Most of us are not here for some great new found love for america neither is america keeping us here for some great "long lost son coming home" type of love.....its a great mutually beneficial opportunistic economic alliance and lets keep it that......

neither of the above diminishes our right to a timely and fair processing of our GC applications and hence great idea to protest democratically......but to denounce our respective countries of birth (and current citizenship) by publicly taking the US pledge of allegience??
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Instead the national anthem, another less politically charged song might be more effective. For example,"God Bless America".... the words, "land that I love" and "my home sweet home" may be more relevant to many.
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