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Old 05-25-2009, 09:18 AM
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Default Visa Recapture Bill Reintroduced in Senate

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Good Info OP!
Good development. Lets see whether they follow up on this or not.
CIR is difficult due to political landscape. piecemeal approach has the
most likelihood of success especially it is attached to FB category.

On the downside, such bills are tabled every year and they die a natural death.
Visa recapture since 1992 might greatly reduce the backlog.
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Old 05-25-2009, 12:01 PM
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Good development. Lets see whether they follow up on this or not.
CIR is difficult due to political landscape. piecemeal approach has the
most likelihood of success especially it is attached to FB category.

On the downside, such bill are tabled every year and they die a natural death.
Visa recapture might since 1992 might greatly reduce the backlog.
How to track the progress of this Bill? can some one post the link to track.
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Old 05-25-2009, 12:09 PM
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How to track the progress of this Bill? can some one post the link to track.
here is the link http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-6938
looks like this bill will not go no where ...there is only 3 cosponsors..
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here is the link http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-6938
looks like this bill will not go no where ...there is only 3 cosponsors..
all of them democrats, in a house of democrats.
and you dont need 15 sponsors for a bill. and having 3 sponsors does not weaken the merit of a bill. in fact most bills would only have less than 10 cosponsors.

And it was in the democrats' rule that the last EB favored legislation was passed.
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Old 05-25-2009, 03:04 PM
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Default for EB too?

I think we need to study the bill in detail before we jump to any conclusions.

From reading the summary in the AILA website, specifically the below :

The legislation would reinforce our commitment to families and reduce current wait times in the family immigration system by:

•Recapturing an estimated 400,000 family-sponsored and employment-based visas that went unused between 1992 and 2007.

Atleast to me it seems like the bill plans on using all the unused visas from the past years and apply that towards the family quota. Not sure if that would help the EB cause.

Inputs anyone?
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Default I agree!

Looks like they are going to use the unused EB visa numbers for FB.To me, this is family reunification bill and most likely will not have any benefit for us.

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I think we need to study the bill in detail before we jump to any conclusions.

From reading the summary in the AILA website, specifically the below :

The legislation would reinforce our commitment to families and reduce current wait times in the family immigration system by:

•Recapturing an estimated 400,000 family-sponsored and employment-based visas that went unused between 1992 and 2007.

Atleast to me it seems like the bill plans on using all the unused visas from the past years and apply that towards the family quota. Not sure if that would help the EB cause.

Inputs anyone?
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Old 05-25-2009, 04:35 PM
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Default Push to include EB too in the bill

This bill is only for FB. IV has to give some direction on this bill so that we can push to include EB too in the bill.
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here is the link http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-6938
looks like this bill will not go no where ...there is only 3 cosponsors..
This link looks to be from the HR. Menendez bill is in the senate. The text of the bill is not available at this time.

http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...dgY3q::|/bss/|
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:11 AM
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This link looks to be from the HR. Menendez bill is in the senate. The text of the bill is not available at this time.

http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...dgY3q::|/bss/|
Have to watch this one carefully. Kennedy (one of the co-sponsors of this bill) had thrown EB immigrants under the bus last year while favoring FB and illegals (in CIR). Need to be see the contents of this bill very carefully. Esp this clause from the AILA report:
"Addressing the decades-long backlogs for certain countries by raising the per-country immigration limits from 7 percent to 10 percent of total admission".
The CIR in 2007 had a similar clause, bumping up the country-limit from 7% to 10%, BUT it had another related clause that stopped rollover of visa's in the last quarter.
That would be disastrous for people from India and China as number of visas issued for the whole year will go DOWN!!
The recapture clause sounds promising , provided there is atleast an even split between EB and FB (of EB coming before FB). If they do it the other way around (like they had done in the last recapture for schedule-A nurses) then EB people will see no benefit of the recapture, and will end up losing one more quick-fix option.

Eagerly waiting for the bill text so the dissection and analysis can begin!!
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Default I think bill has provisions for recap on EB visas

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Have to watch this one carefully. Kennedy (one of the co-sponsors of this bill) had thrown EB immigrants under the bus last year while favoring FB and illegals (in CIR). Need to be see the contents of this bill very carefully. Esp this clause from the AILA report:
"Addressing the decades-long backlogs for certain countries by raising the per-country immigration limits from 7 percent to 10 percent of total admission".
The CIR in 2007 had a similar clause, bumping up the country-limit from 7% to 10%, BUT it had another related clause that stopped rollover of visa's in the last quarter.
That would be disastrous for people from India and China as number of visas issued for the whole year will go DOWN!!
The recapture clause sounds promising , provided there is atleast an even split between EB and FB (of EB coming before FB). If they do it the other way around (like they had done in the last recapture for schedule-A nurses) then EB people will see no benefit of the recapture, and will end up losing one more quick-fix option.

Eagerly waiting for the bill text so the dissection and analysis can begin!!
RECAPTURE OF IMMIGRANT VISAS LOST TO BUREAUCRATIC DELAY.

(a) Worldwide Level of Employment-Based Immigrants- Subsection (d) of section 201 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1151) is amended to read as follows:

‘(d) Worldwide Level of Employment-Based Immigrants-

‘(1) IN GENERAL- The worldwide level of employment-based immigrants under this subsection for a fiscal year is equal to the sum of--

‘(A) 140,000; plus

‘(B) the number computed under paragraph (2); plus

‘(C) the number computed under paragraph (3).

‘(2) UNUSED VISA NUMBERS FROM PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR- The number computed under this paragraph for a fiscal year is the difference, if any, between--

‘(A) the worldwide level of employment-based immigrant visas established for the previous fiscal year; and

‘(B) the number of visas actually issued under section 203(b), subject to this subsection, during the previous fiscal year.

‘(3) UNUSED VISA NUMBERS FROM FISCAL YEARS 1992 THROUGH 2007- The number computed under this paragraph is the difference, if any, between--

‘(A) the difference, if any, between--

‘(i) the sum of the worldwide levels of employment-based immigrant visas established for each of fiscal years 1992 through 2007; and

‘(ii) the number of visas actually issued under section 203(b), subject to this subsection, during such fiscal years; and

‘(B) the number of unused visas from fiscal years 1992 through 2007 that were issued after fiscal year 2007 under section 203(b), subject to this subsection.’.
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There is a chance that all unused visas over the last several years will get assigned to FB quota and EB folks will loose all those visas for ever.
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There is nothing in it for us. In-fact, if this bill passes, they are goin got apply the unused visa numbers towards FB, and we will lose any chance of re-capture, for-ever.
I think, we have a lost cause. The sooner we accept this, the better. We simply do not have the funds, commitment and political support that the illegals enjoy. We all know where the maximum nubver of FB immigrants are from, and they represent a big block of votes, since most of them happen to have the herd mentality, due to lack of education.

We, on the other hand, are educated, well read, tax paying people, who actually think about issues and merits of a person, hence no use to politicians.
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There is a chance that all unused visas over the last several years will get assigned to FB quota and EB folks will loose all those visas for ever.
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Default Visa Recapture Bill

Hey stop being negative. All we can do is hope n god willing we will get it. I have been waiting to get my green since last 12 years ok. Butr im still optimistic. Also lets fax the congress n whitehouse for the same. Ifu guys see numberusa site the anit immigrant pepole r pilling up the faxes against it so lets all unite n send the faxes in support of it. Also with the blue visas in Europen country will make a big difference for us. So they r quiet aware. Lets not fight and give reds to each other instead concentrate on faxing the faxes to white house in support of this bill as irt does matter all of us. United we stand and i bet u there r enough pepole like me n u waiting for the green.
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