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Old 10-03-2007, 11:56 AM
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Post Stories that move American Hearts

How melodramatic is this story? These kind if stories should be highlighted by IV members to highlight the issues with immigration laws in US.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:09 PM
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If we get something like this, we should write to Oprah and have IV featured on her show.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:18 PM
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If we talk abt stories like this, we will be clubbed together with illegal immigrats and I think that is the first thing we want to stay away from. As it is our situation is very bad. I didnt attend the rally but I did hear members mention that a Congressman addressed the rally considering that we stood for the rights of illegal immigrants.

There are several groups who would stand up for this sailor and his family but no one would standup for us.

Maybe I misunderstood the point the 2 members above were trying to make but even the thought that someone might think of using similar story scares the s*** out of me.

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Old 10-03-2007, 12:28 PM
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I think this story does not convey the cause for which IV is fighting. IV is meant for highly skilled foreign labour who is struggling to get what the US laws have to offer because of the system being out of date with current realities and need some fine tuning. I think we should focus on this and not on family tragedies caused by illlegal immigration.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:30 PM
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Immigrants are immigrants, so there is just no getting around being lumped all together. There are better ways to spend our energy than trying to differenciate ourseves.

This girl was a legal immigrant at some point, but she aged out.
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In Gonzalez's case, his wife, Mildred, came to the United States with her mother in 1989 when she was 5 years old. They were granted political asylum because of their status as war refugees from Guatemala.

In September 2000, Mildred's mother applied for legalization and included her daughter in that application. Her mother was granted legal status in July 2004, according to Gonzalez.

However, six weeks earlier, Gonzalez and Mildred got married, canceling Mildred's ability to apply for legal status through her mother because she was no longer an unmarried daughter under the age of 21. As a result, her legal status still remains in jeopardy.


Yes. She is legal. We are talking about associating ourselves with the plight of such legal immigrants will give us human issues to talk about not just retrogression, backlogs and visa numbers.
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"Defending the country that's trying to kick my family out is a thought that always runs through my mind."
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:41 PM
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Dont fall for this CNN propaganda.... they are media and look for juicy stories like these..... And the guy serves US Army so the whole "moving the American hearts" cliche' is in full swing with that one....

Dont expect even a single wink from American audience when you tell your story as a skilled immigrant. They dont care.... They dont want to listen.....
why? Because we lack that juice.... we are portrayed as the job takers....
We have to fight with that realization, and concentrate on our cause.

Heck I can write a story on my case that even script writers will salivate on.... but that doesnt mean Media will go all ga ga on it.... for them immigration is just immigration. Skilled or labor. Legal or illegal, they dont care.
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While certainly a strange situation for the sailor defending his country - This has very little bearing on EB immigration - In my opinion using stories like this will cause the blurring of lines between us and the "undocumented".

The big advantage that we have is the we are here legally and as such should benefit from the "favourable application" of the immigration law - The moment we are grouped with the undcoumented it gives fodder to the anti immigrant groups.

Let us stay away from such anecdotes.
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chanduv, it is absolutely unclear what IV plans are. It is hard to join without basic understanding of what is expected of you.
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I think this story does not convey the cause for which IV is fighting. IV is meant for highly skilled foreign labour who is struggling to get what the US laws have to offer because of the system being out of date with current realities and need some fine tuning. I think we should focus on this and not on family tragedies caused by illlegal immigration.
I am not talking about associating IV with THIS story.

IV members who are legal EB immigrants go through may hardships.

For instance, a nurse helping care for children, but her own child is aging out and they face separation due to the green card mess. Wouldn't that be 'moving' enough for media?
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Though we do not want to associate with such things as this, let us ask ourselves, have we done anything for ourselves to make a difference?

Have we done anything else besides reciept tracking?

Can we make a difference? Yes, we can make a difference? How? JOIN THE STATE CHAPTERS AND START DOING YOUR PART
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Dont fall for this CNN propaganda.... they are media and look for juicy stories like these..... And the guy serves US Army so the whole "moving the American hearts" cliche' is in full swing with that one....

Dont expect even a single wink from American audience when you tell your story as a skilled immigrant. They dont care.... They dont want to listen.....
why? Because we lack that juice.... we are portrayed as the job takers....
We have to fight with that realization, and concentrate on our cause.

Heck I can write a story on my case that even script writers will salivate on.... but that doesnt mean Media will go all ga ga on it.... for them immigration is just immigration. Skilled or labor. Legal or illegal, they dont care.

Well said - I hope this community wakes up from slumber and start looking into reality. The more we hide behind closets and do nothing for ourselves, the more damage we are doing for ourselves
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To give you an example of what is expected, TX chapter is organizing local lawmaker meetings right now. We need members who are willing to take some time out of their busy schedules to attend these meetings, and tell their personal stories to the lawmakers. We need numbers, and real faces to convince them.
Ofcourse.. results are NEVER guaranteed, but lets just try and do our part.

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