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Old 07-18-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Flowers to Atlanta PERM center

some people r thinking of flower campaign to atlanta center so as to speed up slowed down processin. if anyone is interested...

http://www..com/discussion-f...173/last-page/


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IV does not recommend any such actions.

We are aware of the issue and if there is any acion item, we will post it.

also be aware of what we posted earlier on this issue:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6084
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...024#post100024
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:56 PM
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some people r thinking of flower campaign to atlanta center so as to speed up slowed down processin. if anyone is interested...

http://www..com/discussion-f...173/last-page/
I don't think it's going to work again plus its only going to annoy people at USCIS as they have to assign someone to accept and trash those flowers.
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:06 PM
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There's no need for you to be negative.

Obviously you have benefitted already from what's happened. Think about people who are stuck (just as you were up until recently) and want to 'try' to make things work for them too....

wish people were more understanding of others also. Why is it people forget what it was like for them when they were in same boat?
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There's no need for you to be negative.

Obviously you have benefitted already from what's happened. Think about people who are stuck (just as you were up until recently) and want to 'try' to make things work for them too....

wish people were more understanding of others also. Why is it people forget what it was like for them when they were in same boat?
That's exactly what I'm saying. Flowers campaign has run its course and it's not going to benefit anymore. We need to come up with fresh ideas.
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There's no need for you to be negative.

Obviously you have benefitted already from what's happened. Think about people who are stuck (just as you were up until recently) and want to 'try' to make things work for them too....

wish people were more understanding of others also. Why is it people forget what it was like for them when they were in same boat?
I edited my previous message as I do agree I sounded negative but that's not what I mean.
Some of my suggestions:-
1. Creating a petition and getting it signed by more than 10000 victims stuck in BEC and sending it to relevant people in congress and USCIS.

2. Doing a rally in NY, Sanjose etc.

3. Working closely with USCIS and IV core and see how we can improve the situation.
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:34 PM
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There's no need for you to be negative.

Obviously you have benefitted already from what's happened. Think about people who are stuck (just as you were up until recently) and want to 'try' to make things work for them too....

wish people were more understanding of others also. Why is it people forget what it was like for them when they were in same boat?

ps57002

There have been numerous threads in this forum about the utility of sending more flowers to USCIS, whitehouse, condi, Bush etc etc and there is no consenus on that. Now If you need to try to bring to attention the delays of the BEC try something innovative or if you feel flowers are the way to go
then go do it, but before doing that try to find out your audience, how many people are affected by this. In case of 485 retro there were thousands of people who were affected and so there was a tremendous response. Now while i do not deny that there might be same kind of numbers stuck in BEC you need to bring the issue in to focus and make a drive to bring in the believers.

The flower campaign started off as a small remark and some people believed it would work and just kept working on it and ultimately it 'may' have worked because of the organized activity that took place. Now if you believe it will work for BEC centers too go ahead with your plan( I am not sure IV will support it, initally the Gandhigiri did not have IV support too if i recall). If people believe it will work they will join the campaign. Publicise your efforts and you will see results.

go do it..
cheers

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http://immigrationvoice.org/index.ph...tpage&Itemid=1

IV has recommendation to not use flowers going forward
BEC reduction is one of they key goals of IV going forward. so stay tight you should hear something soon

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I do feel that a flower campaign again will have the opposite effect. Once is a novelty and the media loved it, I think the second time you would be annoying people and so would do more harm than good to your cause.

Let's see if we can get IV to talk to Zoe Lofgren and other and see what actions we could take. We are behind you financially and with manpower. Please do not let frustration creep in.

Ultimately you will succeed.
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The flower campaign has done it job. Now, that ImmigrationVoice's voice has been heard, lets get requests channeled through the right way.
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The Gandhi's philosophy indicates the peaceful protest against obvious injustice. The USCIS/DOS decision to stop accepting I 485 from July 2 was the obvious injustice due to couple of reasons; First, it is un precedent and legally not right to stop accepting I 485 when they made big weekend rush to use all visa. Second, No one can suddenly on and off as thousands of people preparing stuff in advance based on the visa bulletin.

We can not use Gandhigiri for increasing visa number or expediting their immigration process. We can only request. it is not our right hence sending flower to PERM agency is not a good idea. Brahmastra (ultimate weapon) can be used at appropriate time only!
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There's no need for you to be negative.

Obviously you have benefitted already from what's happened. Think about people who are stuck (just as you were up until recently) and want to 'try' to make things work for them too....

wish people were more understanding of others also. Why is it people forget what it was like for them when they were in same boat?

ps57002:

Do not take it in negative sense, This is just my thoughts..

1. Flower campaign served it purpose, over doing anything will give produce negative results
2. As other IV members suggested we should come-up with someother innovative ideas. You can ask IV members for ideas, I sure our fellow members will share their thoughts.

Again, I am strongly believe any more flower campaign at this moment will produce negative result (i.e it will annoy the recipient).

I had the same thoughts when our IV members planned to send thank you flowers
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This suggested flower campaign is to send flowers to DOL (Atlanta) and not USCIS.

Members please support or suggest ideas to expedite Atlanta labor processing time.
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Timing is everything........... that window of opportunity has passed, luckly we were able to use it to our advantage this time.


Trying to use the same method again will backfire for sure
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Any ideas to help speeden up the PERM processing in Atlanta center?

Hundreds of folks are stuck for more than 150 days and are in a critical situation now.

Please help us with ur suggestions...
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some people r thinking of flower campaign to atlanta center so as to speed up slowed down processin. if anyone is interested...

http://www..com/discussion-f...173/last-page/

Flowers have come out as a very good weapon for us. Lets not waste it using everywhere.
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I don't think it's going to work again plus its only going to annoy people at USCIS as they have to assign someone to accept and trash those flowers.
Atlanta PERM Center belongs to DOL not USCIS
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