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Old 04-15-2007, 01:48 PM
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As the momentum is slowly building to address and reflect conflicting polictical views and agenda in the upcoming comprehensive immigration reform legislation timetable in the next six weeks, the immigrant communiy has been witnessing introduction of various immigration bills in the both houses of the Congress. On the Democrats front, we have two bills that have been put forward in the Congress: Rep. Gutierrez STRIVE Act of 2007, a compehensive immigration reform legislative bill, and Sen. Durbin bill to restrict H-1B and L-1 immigration which has been introduced in the Senate. The Senate version of the Comprehensive Immigration Reform legislative proposal has gone through a rocky road during the past three months, but eventually be introduced in the Senate soon, probably not too different from Rep. Gutierrez bill. On the Republicans front, we have seen two bills introduced: One is Sen. Hagel High-Tech Worker Relief bill introduced in the Senate, and the other is Sen. Cornyn SKIL Act in the Senate. Republicans have yet to put foward a comprehensive immigration reform legislative bill in both houses.
This reporter is writing this message to share his view of the broad perspectives of the immigration legislation this year, not necessarily reform legislation. Underlying the foregoing summary of the legislative movement in the Congress is a steep and deep division and valley between the Democrats and the Republicans. Despite the Bush's recent push for the comprehensive immigration reform legislation, the Republicans appear to remain strongly in opposition to comprehensive immigration reform legislation. This is clearly visible from the recent Republicans' legislative bills that wanted to shy away from the comprehensive immigration reform legislative approach and advocate a piecemeal legislative approach to shun away from the illegal immigraion legislation. Meanwhile, the Democrats appear to remain united and firm in their resolution to enact the immigration legislation not in a piecemeal fashion but in a comprehensive immigration reform approach. Obviously, underlying the Democrats' comprehensive approach are the powerful forces of labor unions and the Hispanic community which form the backbone of the Democrats' political base. No one will wonder why Senator Durbin has introduced the H-1B and L-1 restriction bill. Republicans, however, are taking a completely different stance. Regardless of ostensivelsupport of the comprehensive immigration reform legislation by Bush, majority of the Republicans oppose the comprehensive immigration reform as they will have to lean on the conversative political forces. The situation was deteriorated on the Republican front because of Sen. McCain's presidential candidacy and his need for the conserversative polical base in the South to win in the primary. This changed the landscape and brought into scene a polical drama of break-up of comprehensive immigration reform partnership between him and Senator Kenndy. The delay in the Senate version of the compehensive immigration reform legislative bill is related to the politics. When it comes to the sponsors of the SKIL bills in the Senate and the House, both of them remain strong opponents of the comrehensive immigration reform legislation. This is very obvious when people visit these Senators' websites. Consequently. from the broad perspectives of the immigration legislation, whether in piecemeal or comprehensive, the key remains whether the proponents and the opponents of the comprehensive immigration reform legislation can move more toward the center with their willingness to negotiate and compromise. Without such change, the future of any immigration legislations, whether piecemeal or comprehensive, will be indeed grim.
This website supports both the piecemeal and comprehensive immigration bills. However, one cannot ignore the political reality underlying the legislative process. The country desperately needs legal immigration reform legislation such as SKIL Act as demonstrated by the recent fiasco of H-1B cap reaching in one day and the plea of business mogul Bill Gates. Unfortunately, the timing of reintroduction of SKIL Act appears to be too late. Under the current circumstances, there will be few who would believe that this bill, stand alone, will pass the Congress as separate from the comprehensive immigration reform legislative process. This bill rather stirs some apprehension in the immigration community that the bill is intended to address the sponsors' opposition to the comprehensive immigration reform legislation rather than a literal piecemeal legislation, particularly considering their strong opposition to the comprehensive immigration reform legislation. If they truly believe the urgency for the legal immigration reform, they should have introduced this bill early on and certainly not now. Such bill may bring about intended or unintended consequences of the division of immigrant community and related stakeholders, to wit: Between legal and illegal immigrant communities and their supporters. In this regard, even though we strongly support the Senator Cornyn's SKIL's bill, we find this bill being enacted separately from the CIR at this point slim because of the political reality. We cannot also hide our apprehension this this bill bring to the community igniting the division and hostility between different groups in the immigrant community and their backers. Culprit of this bill is "ill timed." Had it been introduced early in the year, there could have been some chances, albeit limited, to make it through the Congress. In this reporter's opinion, the chance of this bill making through the Congress is through the comprehensive immigration reform legislation process through negotiation and compromise.
From the foregoing analysis, we see a better opportunity for Senator Hagel's less than three Sections short legislation bill to make it through, when it comes to the pieceful legislative approach, as the bill is not intended to indirectly oppose the comprehensive immigration reform legislation and more receptive to the pro-CIR backers both in and outside of the Hill. We see that from next week, immigration legislation debates will heat up more fiercely. We just hope that the immigrant community and backers do not repeat their mistakes in the winter of 2005 and spring of 2006.
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Old 04-15-2007, 02:37 PM
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This is analysis is telling the reality with some speculation. Everyone knows that there is 50% possiblity for CIR and 20% possiblity in current form. If Skill bill comes with Durbin restrictions then 80% possiblity of passage. Without restriction 50% possiblity of passage in current form. So some miracle has to happen for Skil bill in the current environment. But sometimes miracles also happen in the real life.


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As the momentum is slowly building to address and reflect conflicting polictical views and agenda in the upcoming comprehensive immigration reform legislation timetable in the next six weeks, the immigrant communiy has been witnessing introduction of various immigration bills in the both houses of the Congress. On the Democrats front, we have two bills that have been put forward in the Congress: Rep. Gutierrez STRIVE Act of 2007, a compehensive immigration reform legislative bill, and Sen. Durbin bill to restrict H-1B and L-1 immigration which has been introduced in the Senate. The Senate version of the Comprehensive Immigration Reform legislative proposal has gone through a rocky road during the past three months, but eventually be introduced in the Senate soon, probably not too different from Rep. Gutierrez bill. On the Republicans front, we have seen two bills introduced: One is Sen. Hagel High-Tech Worker Relief bill introduced in the Senate, and the other is Sen. Cornyn SKIL Act in the Senate. Republicans have yet to put foward a comprehensive immigration reform legislative bill in both houses.
This reporter is writing this message to share his view of the broad perspectives of the immigration legislation this year, not necessarily reform legislation. Underlying the foregoing summary of the legislative movement in the Congress is a steep and deep division and valley between the Democrats and the Republicans. Despite the Bush's recent push for the comprehensive immigration reform legislation, the Republicans appear to remain strongly in opposition to comprehensive immigration reform legislation. This is clearly visible from the recent Republicans' legislative bills that wanted to shy away from the comprehensive immigration reform legislative approach and advocate a piecemeal legislative approach to shun away from the illegal immigraion legislation. Meanwhile, the Democrats appear to remain united and firm in their resolution to enact the immigration legislation not in a piecemeal fashion but in a comprehensive immigration reform approach. Obviously, underlying the Democrats' comprehensive approach are the powerful forces of labor unions and the Hispanic community which form the backbone of the Democrats' political base. No one will wonder why Senator Durbin has introduced the H-1B and L-1 restriction bill. Republicans, however, are taking a completely different stance. Regardless of ostensivelsupport of the comprehensive immigration reform legislation by Bush, majority of the Republicans oppose the comprehensive immigration reform as they will have to lean on the conversative political forces. The situation was deteriorated on the Republican front because of Sen. McCain's presidential candidacy and his need for the conserversative polical base in the South to win in the primary. This changed the landscape and brought into scene a polical drama of break-up of comprehensive immigration reform partnership between him and Senator Kenndy. The delay in the Senate version of the compehensive immigration reform legislative bill is related to the politics. When it comes to the sponsors of the SKIL bills in the Senate and the House, both of them remain strong opponents of the comrehensive immigration reform legislation. This is very obvious when people visit these Senators' websites. Consequently. from the broad perspectives of the immigration legislation, whether in piecemeal or comprehensive, the key remains whether the proponents and the opponents of the comprehensive immigration reform legislation can move more toward the center with their willingness to negotiate and compromise. Without such change, the future of any immigration legislations, whether piecemeal or comprehensive, will be indeed grim.
This website supports both the piecemeal and comprehensive immigration bills. However, one cannot ignore the political reality underlying the legislative process. The country desperately needs legal immigration reform legislation such as SKIL Act as demonstrated by the recent fiasco of H-1B cap reaching in one day and the plea of business mogul Bill Gates. Unfortunately, the timing of reintroduction of SKIL Act appears to be too late. Under the current circumstances, there will be few who would believe that this bill, stand alone, will pass the Congress as separate from the comprehensive immigration reform legislative process. This bill rather stirs some apprehension in the immigration community that the bill is intended to address the sponsors' opposition to the comprehensive immigration reform legislation rather than a literal piecemeal legislation, particularly considering their strong opposition to the comprehensive immigration reform legislation. If they truly believe the urgency for the legal immigration reform, they should have introduced this bill early on and certainly not now. Such bill may bring about intended or unintended consequences of the division of immigrant community and related stakeholders, to wit: Between legal and illegal immigrant communities and their supporters. In this regard, even though we strongly support the Senator Cornyn's SKIL's bill, we find this bill being enacted separately from the CIR at this point slim because of the political reality. We cannot also hide our apprehension this this bill bring to the community igniting the division and hostility between different groups in the immigrant community and their backers. Culprit of this bill is "ill timed." Had it been introduced early in the year, there could have been some chances, albeit limited, to make it through the Congress. In this reporter's opinion, the chance of this bill making through the Congress is through the comprehensive immigration reform legislation process through negotiation and compromise.
From the foregoing analysis, we see a better opportunity for Senator Hagel's less than three Sections short legislation bill to make it through, when it comes to the pieceful legislative approach, as the bill is not intended to indirectly oppose the comprehensive immigration reform legislation and more receptive to the pro-CIR backers both in and outside of the Hill. We see that from next week, immigration legislation debates will heat up more fiercely. We just hope that the immigrant community and backers do not repeat their mistakes in the winter of 2005 and spring of 2006.
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Old 04-15-2007, 07:50 PM
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Democrats know the country is in dire need of reforms to legal immigration, particularly for STEM graduates from US and H1B quota. But they will continue to hold a gun to the republicans by not moving for reforms in this area, because they know that there is 0% chance of any illegal immigration bill being passed if the legal immigration reform is undertaken separately. Each side will delay what the other side wants. This situation could have gone on until after the Presidential elections due next November, but for the riduculous situation that no US STEM graduate (MS/Ph.D) graduating this spring can obtain an H1B because the quota may be over before they graduate (and for u/g it is over already). Most countries retain their foreign students trained in STEM. Hagel's bill might pass if the senate CIR bill is not introduced soon. Kennedy is too much to the left of the US mainstream and with McCain out, I doubt Kennedy will be ready for compromise on his strongly held beliefs about illegal immigrants. He is a Catholic and has genuine empathy towards the Latino immigrants. He will not agree to the heavy fines for illegals proposed by Bush that make it palatable for republicans.
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Old 04-15-2007, 10:20 PM
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He will not agree to the heavy fines for illegals proposed by Bush that make it palatable for republicans.
The heavy fines in unrealistic. Close to 20K to 30K per family to be able to
file I485 .....gettting GC is another waiting game because of retrogression.

No way it makes sense. With such fines the bill is dead.
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Reading b/w the lines: Just forget it.

If it happens, it'll be a miracle.

Presidential election 2008 political maneuvering has started too early this year. If they were thinking of national interests over politics, it would have been possible. It's all about elections and political games now.

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