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Old 08-31-2009, 07:42 PM
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Inviting all who are trying to get GC to write why they need GC!
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:52 PM
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Roti, kapda, makaan aur GC.
That should explain everything
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:54 PM
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I belong to general category in India. I couldn't stand people getting jobs and seats in educational institutes even though they score less than me. Caste should not be an advantage.

I'd rather be a tech slave in a foreign country rather than being one in my own and report to people who were never better than me.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:01 PM
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Default the question must be about citizenship.

GC is just a visa. Nothing more nothing less. the question must be about citizenship.

I know a british who is using GC for past 20 years and never got us citizenship. He is planning to return back.

The actual GC/citizenship quest is based on two extreme views about asia
1. “asia is good” and improving. Letus not get gc.
2. "asia is bad" and letus escape from it. get kids here. get GC then citizenship and move on.
Actually the truth is some were between. asia is good enough to return back after decade or so of residence. (provided children and spouse is ok with that).
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:21 PM
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Roti, kapda, makaan aur GC.
That should explain everything
that you would get anywhere right? Why US?
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:29 PM
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How about great career oppurtunities, no super dumb caste quotas, Women/Strip clubs , Las Vegas, fancy cars, giving an impression to other countries that you are uber cool ? , other than that , i dont see any reason being here.
P.S: Notice no money making is included, because, as this country giveth, it taketh away in the form of GC lawyer fees, H1 B filing/extension feels, EAD filing fees etc...

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Old 08-31-2009, 08:30 PM
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that you would get anywhere right? Why US?
Roti, kapda and makaan may be good enough in india.
In US, in addition to them, u also need a GC to live a peaceful life.

Once you u have a GC, you get freedom interms of employment, career growth, business opportunities.

This would explain why we need GC!
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:31 PM
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I belong to general category in India. I couldn't stand people getting jobs and seats in educational institutes even though they score less than me. Caste should not be an advantage.

I'd rather be a tech slave in a foreign country rather than being one in my own and report to people who were never better than me.

I agree with you but we can fight for it. No matter u get gc and later citizenship, you can never claim your right here as citizenship can be revoked. For example take the extreme case that there is a civil war in the US sometime in future so where do you stand ? I think the first step all indian orign ppl will do is go to india.

What I am trying to say is we lost the fighting spirit thinking let others do that for you !!!

In the US, even after independence many people fought for the issues which are right.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:34 PM
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GC to me is a ticket to freedom to change jobs, career advancement and stability. Nothing more, nothing less. At this point, I am not sure if I would like to purse the USC and dont see GC as a stepping stone towards it.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:42 PM
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This question may have different answers at different stages. When I came to the US, the gc seemed a goal achievable in 3-5 years and so then the main motivation was more security in case I lose my job because I really wanted to be in the US.

1. Now the romance with US has ended, really wanna goback but kids are now teens and their adjustment in India seems painful to say the least. Now I want GC for them.

2. Social Security Benefit: 9 years have passed and close to finishing the required 10 years of tax filing. No GC yet. Cant apply for 485. But there is hope some day I get GC/Citizenship and so when I get old, if at all US does not become a banana republic, I might get a thousand dollars a month when I am retired and may badly need it then. Dont want to kick that seemingly fragile benefit.

Just my 2 pathetic cents.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:58 PM
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I belong to general category in India. I couldn't stand people getting jobs and seats in educational institutes even though they score less than me. Caste should not be an advantage.

I'd rather be a tech slave in a foreign country rather than being one in my own and report to people who were never better than me.
Looks like,hurt a lot...
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:03 PM
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Default Timeout.

This is a sensitive subject. here is my take: reservation is a hurdle but it is not a show stopper. At the same time, reservation must timeout.

caste based reservations violate the constitution.
(State of Madras Vs. Smt. Champakam Dorairanjan AIR 1951 SC 226) clearly shows that caste based reservations as per Communal Award violates Article 15(1). For starters Constiitution was primarly authored by Ambetkar a dalit.

Already creamy layer is excluded.
Those with family income above Rs 250,000 a year should be in creamy layer, and excluded from the reservation quota. Also, children of doctors, engineers, chartered accountants, actors, consultants, media professionals, writers, bureaucrats, defence officers of colonel and equivalent rank or higher, high court and Supreme Court judges, all central and state government Class A and B officials. The court has requested Parliament to exclude MPs’ and MLAs’ children, too.

However Permanent Timeout/retirement of class/caste based reservation is the only soultion:
An individual in india will retire at the age of 58-60 years. The same should apply here, We should retire reservations 58-60 years ( from "1956 ammendment of Schedules based on Kaka Kalelkar report") that would be at 2014-2016.

Balance act is needed. Sympathy and support must not tip into sacrifice.

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I belong to general category in India. I couldn't stand people getting jobs and seats in educational institutes even though they score less than me. Caste should not be an advantage.

I'd rather be a tech slave in a foreign country rather than being one in my own and report to people who were never better than me.
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I need gc and ultimately citizenship for my autistic, non-verbal and mentally challenged child. We do not know what will happen to him when we (parents) pass away. In US atleast he can get taken care of by some oraganization. In India, he will come to streets. He is already in a very bad shape.

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I am moved by your post bsbawa10, I wish that you get your GC ASAP.
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