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We are a couple in mid 30s with one year old baby. wife is working full time. my company has offered me the next project (long term) choice between texas and florida. There are several cities in each state from which i can choose. we have to let them know by the end of this month. Can someone recommend one over the other with respect to:

climate, indian population, education, real estate, better cost of living and better option for long term ( we may end up being in this place for > 10 yrs which means buying house etc). thanks a lot for your input.
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check where is Dallas office I will give you more info on DFW
I am talking in terms of commute
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I've lived in TX and FL. From the point of view of cost of living, growth opportunities, less risk of hurricanes, better long term options, I would suggest moving to Austin or San Antonio in TX. The housing bubble was not as much in TX, which is why the price of houses did not artificially inflate last decade. The overall economy is stable, cost of land/house is less so its more value for your money.

If I'd a choice I would go with TX.
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I lived in TX for 6 years and then moved to FL, so here's my experience so far.. and this is my personal opinion.

Climate:
Pretty much both have same climate; except FL weather is bit more humid than TX, also watch for those HOT TX summers, which go 100+.

Demographics:
You get more desi shopping options in TX, especially Dallas area, than in FL. Of course, more desi population in TX.

Real Estate:
Both are pretty much on par on owning home topic - cheaper when compared to other states, however, TX real estate was not impacted much. FL real estate was impacted, however its recovering now faster. Its becoming difficult to find a good condition home these days. If there is a good one, its snapped off the market within days. Rents were a little higher in FL area. In Dallas area, there are more rental choices per sq mile.

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In FL everything is closeby compared to TX drive times, where 20-30 miles drives are normal. However, more toll roads in FL kill the joy. Cheaper gas prices in TX. Both states don't have state income tax, but have sales tax. You get FL Drivers license only for 1 yr, irrespective of your visa/i94/EAD expiry - which means shelling out 50$ per applicant every year. I guess in TX, you get till visa/i94 expiry. I have'nt checked in TX, but in FL if you are on not GC holder or citizen, you lose on homestead exemption (doesn't matter if you are on EAD) - which converts to higher property tax, during EAD/AP stage. Electric companies have a near monopoly FL (Orlando) area, which meant higher home energy costs. Insurance is a tad higher in FL too.
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I lived in TX for 6 years and then moved to FL, so here's my experience so far.. and this is my personal opinion.

Climate:
Pretty much both have same climate; except FL weather is bit more humid than TX, also watch for those HOT TX summers, which go 100+.

Demographics:
You get more desi shopping options in TX, especially Dallas area, than in FL. Of course, more desi population in TX.

Real Estate:
Both are pretty much on par on owning home topic - cheaper when compared to other states, however, TX real estate was not impacted much. FL real estate was impacted, however its recovering now faster. Its becoming difficult to find a good condition home these days. If there is a good one, its snapped off the market within days. Rents were a little higher in FL area. In Dallas area, there are more rental choices per sq mile.

Other areas:
In FL everything is closeby compared to TX drive times, where 20-30 miles drives are normal. However, more toll roads in FL kill the joy. Cheaper gas prices in TX. Both states don't have state income tax, but have sales tax. You get FL Drivers license only for 1 yr, irrespective of your visa/i94/EAD expiry - which means shelling out 50$ per applicant every year. I guess in TX, you get till visa/i94 expiry. I have'nt checked in TX, but in FL if you are on not GC holder or citizen, you lose on homestead exemption (doesn't matter if you are on EAD) - which converts to higher property tax, during EAD/AP stage. Electric companies have a near monopoly FL (Orlando) area, which meant higher home energy costs. Insurance is a tad higher in FL too.
As a FL resident. I would like to add another point. The overall job situation in TX is much better than FL. There are not many industries in FL.
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I have lived in Dallas,Austin and San Antonio.

Dallas and San Antonio Economies are much bigger than Austin and the only Negative point about San Antonio is Crime rate and Particle Pollution (lots of Dust).

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We moved to Houston from Northeast couple of years ago. Though I haven't lived in FL, have a friend who moved to there (Miami area) from Northeast couple years before our move. He has no complaints, but since I didn't hear complain about anything ever, that feedback may not be accurate . However I do remember him saying the summer is less intense compared to Texas. Houston summer is notorious particularly for folks moving in from northeast or similar places. But you'll get used to it pretty soon. Weather wise Austin is the best place I heard in TX. And it has large concentration of tech companies too. Overall job market is better in TX than FL.
TX doesn't have state income tax, so you are taxed on what you consume. Sales tax and property taxes are high. Not sure about FL, but I am guessing they'd be higher there too.
Housing - You'll get more house for the money, but property taxes are a bit on the higher side too, especially for newly constructed homes. If you are looking for a house in good community with good schools, then they are not that cheap.
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check where is Dallas office I will give you more info on DFW
I am talking in terms of commute
I firstly have to indicate to my manager which state I would be interested in by the end of this month. Then, they will give the options for the cities and we have to decide the city by mid of dec.
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I've lived in TX and FL. From the point of view of cost of living, growth opportunities, less risk of hurricanes, better long term options, I would suggest moving to Austin or San Antonio in TX. The housing bubble was not as much in TX, which is why the price of houses did not artificially inflate last decade. The overall economy is stable, cost of land/house is less so its more value for your money.

If I'd a choice I would go with TX.
thanks a lot for your valuable input. what is your opinion about houston?
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I lived in TX for 6 years and then moved to FL, so here's my experience so far.. and this is my personal opinion.

Climate:
Pretty much both have same climate; except FL weather is bit more humid than TX, also watch for those HOT TX summers, which go 100+.

Demographics:
You get more desi shopping options in TX, especially Dallas area, than in FL. Of course, more desi population in TX.

Real Estate:
Both are pretty much on par on owning home topic - cheaper when compared to other states, however, TX real estate was not impacted much. FL real estate was impacted, however its recovering now faster. Its becoming difficult to find a good condition home these days. If there is a good one, its snapped off the market within days. Rents were a little higher in FL area. In Dallas area, there are more rental choices per sq mile.

Other areas:
In FL everything is closeby compared to TX drive times, where 20-30 miles drives are normal. However, more toll roads in FL kill the joy. Cheaper gas prices in TX. Both states don't have state income tax, but have sales tax. You get FL Drivers license only for 1 yr, irrespective of your visa/i94/EAD expiry - which means shelling out 50$ per applicant every year. I guess in TX, you get till visa/i94 expiry. I have'nt checked in TX, but in FL if you are on not GC holder or citizen, you lose on homestead exemption (doesn't matter if you are on EAD) - which converts to higher property tax, during EAD/AP stage. Electric companies have a near monopoly FL (Orlando) area, which meant higher home energy costs. Insurance is a tad higher in FL too.
thanks for such a good analysis. TX has an edge over FL according to your post. Drivers license may not be a big issue for us since we have EAD but PD of EB 2-I Oct 2007- so hoping to get GC by end of FY 2013.
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We moved to Houston from Northeast couple of years ago. Though I haven't lived in FL, have a friend who moved to there (Miami area) from Northeast couple years before our move. He has no complaints, but since I didn't hear complain about anything ever, that feedback may not be accurate . However I do remember him saying the summer is less intense compared to Texas. Houston summer is notorious particularly for folks moving in from northeast or similar places. But you'll get used to it pretty soon. Weather wise Austin is the best place I heard in TX. And it has large concentration of tech companies too. Overall job market is better in TX than FL.
TX doesn't have state income tax, so you are taxed on what you consume. Sales tax and property taxes are high. Not sure about FL, but I am guessing they'd be higher there too.
Housing - You'll get more house for the money, but property taxes are a bit on the higher side too, especially for newly constructed homes. If you are looking for a house in good community with good schools, then they are not that cheap.
thanks for your advice. Most people from TX recommend dallas or austin, However, my wife wants to be close to beach area, if we have an option. So, we could be looking at houston, if we decide on TX. Could you provide more info on houston like school districts, real estate and traffic etc. thanks again.
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thanks for your advice. Most people from TX recommend dallas or austin, However, my wife wants to be close to beach area, if we have an option. So, we could be looking at houston, if we decide on TX. Could you provide more info on houston like school districts, real estate and traffic etc. thanks again.
If you move to Houston you'd most likely choose one of the suburbs to live in like Katy, Sugar Land, Pearland. Sugar Land is the most diverse they say. I live there so may be I'm a bit biased . It has good school districts. Houses in the best schooling area starts at $400s, but that is also the area with lowest tax rate (2.2%). There are newer constructions around but with higher tax rate around 3.5%. Traffic to downtown is tough during rush hours. But most people I know choose carpool (hence HOV lane) or public transport to avoid traffic.
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if you have a choice in Texas , stick with either Dallas or Houston. I have been living in Austin for the past 12+ yrs, and it is a really boring place for desi families. There is absolutely no variety of desi restaurants here (there are some but all of them taste the same). Desi activities, functions, concerts etc. are very scarce. Houston and Dallas on the other hand are desi heaven.
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