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Retrogression, priority dates and Visa bulletins Issues surrounding the retrogression of the priority dates for the various employment based categories

View Poll Results: Should we send stoppers as a symbolic gesture to lawmakers?
Yes, last year a group had sent bricks as a symbolic gesture for broken borders. It worked well 28 22.05%
No 55 43.31%
I will do it, if majority of the members agree 44 34.65%
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Bumper Stickers are a powerful tool to pread political messages in America. It may not catch the eye balls of the senators, but can definitely give spead the message of IV.

It's cheap, and long term free advertisement. I would say IV should distribute attractive non-controversial bumper-stickers, instead of flyers which end up in garbage cans
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Ok, now that you have negated all ideas from other people, we anxiously wait for your ideas

I am sure you are not just some reactive person who can only criticize but can also provide us with a solution.
Lets hear em.
This is easy, practical and may be more effective.
Co-ordinate working round-the-clock (24 hours non-stop) wherever, in whatever organization/immigation community is working.Let it be coast-to-coast. let the work start as usual on friday morning at 8am and end at 8.am on saturday. Employers will be happy and we can win enormous support. Send simultaneous cards to uscis/law makers.
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This is easy, practical and may be more effective.
Co-ordinate working round-the-clock (24 hours non-stop) wherever, in whatever organization/immigation community is working.Let it be coast-to-coast. let the work start as usual on friday morning at 8am and end at 8.am on saturday. Employers will be happy and we can win enormous support. Send simultaneous cards to uscis/law makers.
Wow, nice idea....!!
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Is a great idea...the punch line must start with "Legal"....

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Bumper Stickers are a powerful tool to pread political messages in America. It may not catch the eye balls of the senators, but can definitely give spead the message of IV.

It's cheap, and long term free advertisement. I would say IV should distribute attractive non-controversial bumper-stickers, instead of flyers which end up in garbage cans
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Since most of the west coast people who found it diffcult to attend the DC rally, was because of the cost/total flight time etc, for future may be it might be a better idea to conduct coordinated east coast (DC or new jersey or where ever there are huge legal immigrant aspirants) and west coast (silicon valley/bay area) rallies simultaneously. Probably even one somewhere in middle of USA (Texas ?)..

That way, not only does it give an impression that its a wide spread effort and get better noticed, but also make it more convenient for people to attend. And also may instill some sense of friendly competition between local IV chapters to 'beat the numbers' and may encourage people to attend the local rallies in huge numbers. And also it will even out the effect of some local region having poor attendance.

Also the burden on the 'core team' will also be spread out evenly, so we can conduct more such rallies in future at a shorter notice and with lesser effort. Key to this is developing the local chapters more, making them more autonomous and regulated.

It also has been mentioned in various posts that the hierarchical structure of the organization is not very transparent and many people seem to be still confused between 'core members'/admins versus 'senior members' and volunteers. I agree IV is by us and for all of us. But it doesn't hurt to have a streamlined organizational structure...(may be such a structure is already in place...if so then it needs to be more transparent ) That will make IV look more professional also.


Coming to ideas like sending more flowers ...or stoppers etc....
We need to be careful to not overdo things. It might dilute the intention and may even send negative message. And also sometimes well intentioned creative ideas but not immediately apparent, can fall flat.
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Stoppers idea is brilliant and should be done on a big scale. It will convey a strong message and will be in news.
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Stoppers idea is brilliant and should be done on a big scale. It will convey a strong message and will be in news.
Yeah.. what next? shower caps? then groceries? C'mon man. Overdose of anything can be detrimental.

Just conveying a message is not sufficent. It should be the RIGHT message in a proper way. Flowers was good, because it was the first time something like that happened and it was unique.
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Yeah.. what next? shower caps? then groceries? C'mon man. Overdose of anything can be detrimental.

Just conveying a message is not sufficent. It should be the RIGHT message in a proper way. Flowers was good, because it was the first time something like that happened and it was unique.
No, we are not going to abuse this and we won't be sending stuff over and over. But stoppers have a very Specific significance: to educate and differentiate between legal and illegal. A stopper says "Stop the reverse brain drain"...A stopper would pique people's interest becase we are typically lumped in with illegals, and a stopper does not exemplify what illegals are. Illegal immigration's message is: "legalize us and help new guest workers come", our stopper says "We are already legal and are already leaving, fix this before we all leave"
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Stoppers idea is brilliant and should be done on a big scale. It will convey a strong message and will be in news.
These are my predictions if we do this stopper thing

1) People will try to know what this whole thing is about. ( So we should have the stage set for the propaganda to tell americans that they will lose big if we go home)
2) This could have a negative impact of drawing more anti-immigrant crowd which want us to leave no matter what. ( For a common american jobs for his himself and family is more important than what we are trying to say)
3) Stopper companies would get some free publicity ( Maybe some company is out there to sponsor this)

In my opinion this would not help much like the flower campaign. But there is no harm in trying.
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This is an actual drain stopper....feel familiar???
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Smile Do you have any other ideas?

Together we can come up with some bright ones - any input from you?

Also note, the flower campaign was dubbed stupid and insane by many before it started working and getting media attention, and eventually proved to be a brilliant idea! So let's keep our mind open to ideas.

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>>>>-sending more flowers
please.. enough of flowers..

>>>>-a huge rally in Silicon Valley
Now you have seen what goes and does not go into a rally. This is a complicated task so it has to be planned, as was the DC one.

>>>-candlelight vigil at congress
This will work if high school students do it. not "highly skilled" immigrants.

>>>>-mass letter mailings from all of us
Yeah.. spam them with emails..

>>>-human chains
This involves same complexity as the rally. so its not an easy task.

>>>-hunger strike?
This will be stupidity. ( I am not calling you stupid, but the idea. so no need to jump on me). Eat your food and live healty and happy. Is GC worth going on hunger strikes and suicide attempts? Thats too much of desperation. You are not from Afghanistan or Kenya right..?

>>>-etc
What else?
Oh yeah.. the "drain stoppers" stuff.. thats again stupid. Thats too much literal comparison to brain drain.
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Sorry, but I don't agree. This can get annoying. Sending flowers was a different thing a super brilliant idea...but bath-stoppers...where will the USCIS Director forward those?
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He can send it to 'habitat for humanity' if he wants
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No, we are not going to abuse this and we won't be sending stuff over and over. But stoppers have a very Specific significance: to educate and differentiate between legal and illegal. A stopper says "Stop the reverse brain drain"...A stopper would pique people's interest becase we are typically lumped in with illegals, and a stopper does not exemplify what illegals are. Illegal immigration's message is: "legalize us and help new guest workers come", our stopper says "We are already legal and are already leaving, fix this before we all leave"
Actually, many Indians with US Citizenship are leaving too. What I have seen with my friends and coworkers is that, the moment they receive the US passport they book a flight to India and come back when ever they please. If media picks up that fact, then what is our strategy?
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