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Retrogression, priority dates and Visa bulletins Issues surrounding the retrogression of the priority dates for the various employment based categories

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Old 02-18-2009, 05:10 PM
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Default PERM (LABOR) DATA Analysis

Foreign Labor Certification (PERM) DATA Analysis
http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx
Year TOT_LBRS Certified LBR_INDIA PD_>_10/1/2001
2000 074048 70204 ????? 0
2001 082139 77921 ????? 0
2002 089168 79784 ????? 7873
2003 095299 62912 ????? 25956
2004 098866 43582 ????? 26569
2005 014253 06133 01350 6133
2006 105960 79782 22298 79782
2007 098753 85112 24573 85112
2008 061997 21092 07198 21092
Total 720483 526522 55419 252517

Observations:
2005 - Not many labors
2008 - Many Labor certified but expired
If someone want to look his/her labor data, search in data file in certified year using above link.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:18 PM
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54k of 180 k approved in PERM(i.e., filed in or after 2005) are from INDIA...that is exactly 1/3 RD....Expect a huge backlog once we reach mid/late 2005 for EB2.

I did not take Expired into account since, it looks wrong, in 2005 expired and certified are same 6133
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:24 PM
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Default there is a 6 month gap between oct 2004 and mar 2005

in the FY 2005 calculation the first 6 months are unknown.(oct 2004-mar2005)
There was a surge in labor(RIR and traditional filings) as PERM would begin after this.
2005 low numbers are not real.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:31 PM
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I think USCIS introduced new PERM in MAR-05. Could be that's why there are not many labor approved during this year. Also every one was waiting for PERM during this year.

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in the FY 2005 calculation the first 6 months are unknown.(oct 2004-mar2005)
There was a surge in labor(RIR and traditional filings) as PERM would begin after this.
2005 low numbers are not real.
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Old 02-18-2009, 08:14 PM
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Default in my company there was a rush

in my company there was a rush of filings before RIR system went down. Most of my peers filed before march 2005. The labor data does not include the critical 6 month period where many people may have been motivated by the sunsetting "known devil" RIR system.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:47 PM
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Default this information is not complete

Hi,

Looks like data in here is not complete.

I looked at 2007 data. There is not even a single labor from my company. I know one labor that was filed in June and did get approved. It is not listed here..

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Old 02-18-2009, 09:57 PM
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To me this information seems correct as I was able to find my own application.. Don't know how much difference that makes..

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Hi,

Looks like data in here is not complete.

I looked at 2007 data. There is not even a single labor from my company. I know one labor that was filed in June and did get approved. It is not listed here..

thanks
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:08 AM
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Default Certified Labors Level Wise From 2005 to 2008

Year -- 2008 , 2007 , 2006 , 2005
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Applied -- 61997 , 98753 , 105960 , 14253
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Certified -- 21092 , 85112 , 79782 , 6133
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Level 1 -- 7265 , 24398 , 22163 , 1961
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Level 2 -- 7977 , 34358 , 32283 , 2212
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Level 3 -- 3263 , 14475 , 14563 , 1126
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Level 4 -- 2179 , 10135 , 9621 , 754
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No Level -- 408 , 1745 , 1152 , 80
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:20 AM
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Default Certified Labors Country Wise from 2005 to 2008 for top 10 countries

Year -------------- 2008 -------------2007------------2006------------2005
India-----------------7198------------24573-----------22298-----------1350
China-----------------1210-------------6846------------6779-------------868
Mexico---------------1746--------------6442------------4365-------------180
Philippines-----------1144--------------4821------------4482-------------199
SouthKorea----------1263--------------5159------------5248------------677
Canada--------------1023--------------4837-------------4503------------310
UnitedKingdom--------358--------------1811------------1887-------------159
Brazil-----------------321--------------1460------------1671-------------212
Pakistan--------------374--------------1486------------1855-------------137
Taiwan---------------315---------------1503-------------1516-------------118

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Old 02-20-2009, 09:47 AM
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Default Top 20 Companies which sponser GCs from 2000 to 2008

Top 20 Companies which sponsered GCs from 2000 to 2008

Microsoft corporation
intel corporation
oracle corporation
motorola, inc.
Cisco systems, inc
ernst & young llp
ibm corporation
compuware corporation
rapidigm inc.
Sun microsystems, inc
carolina turkeys
new york city department of education
covansys corporation
texas instruments incorporated
cognizant technology solutions corporation
qualcomm incorporated
hewlett-packard company
infosys technologies limited
yahoo! Inc.
Emc corporation
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Old 02-20-2009, 10:10 AM
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Default Levels vs EB Categories

Hi,
Does any body here know how these levels in LCA are related to EB categories?
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Old 02-20-2009, 10:40 AM
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So 2004 is the bottle neck... 2005 will be faster..and may clog again in 2006...
if the PD dates move steadily ..we can expect atleast mid of 05 by this year end..

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Year -- 2008 , 2007 , 2006 , 2005
---------------------------------------------------------
Applied -- 61997 , 98753 , 105960 , 14253
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Certified -- 21092 , 85112 , 79782 , 6133
---------------------------------------------------------------
Level 1 -- 7265 , 24398 , 22163 , 1961
----------------------------------------------------------------
Level 2 -- 7977 , 34358 , 32283 , 2212
---------------------------------------------------------------
Level 3 -- 3263 , 14475 , 14563 , 1126
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Level 4 -- 2179 , 10135 , 9621 , 754
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No Level -- 408 , 1745 , 1152 , 80
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Old 02-20-2009, 11:39 AM
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Level II is supposed to be EB2 but it's not 100% accurate, for now you can safely assume that 80% of level-II falls under EB2.
Please refer to this for more info
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...233#post313233


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Hi,
Does any body here know how these levels in LCA are related to EB categories?
Thanks.
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Old 02-20-2009, 03:34 PM
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Default Top 10 highest paid jobs in the PERM Labor Certified data for 2008

Employer Name, Employer_City, Employer_State, ----PW_JOB_TITLE_9089 , ----WAGE_OFFER_FROM_9089

CINCINNATI CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL MEDICAL CENTER, CINCINNATI,OH,----- SURGEONS, -----$721,552/Year
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON,SEATTLE,WA, ------- PROFESSOR , ----- $475,000/Year
CENTRAL MAINE MEDICAL CENTER,LEWISTON,ME, ------ INTERNISTS,GENERAL , --- $450,000/Year
CENTRAL CALIFORNIA FACULTY MEDICAL GROUP, INC.,FRESNO,CA, ---- SURGEONS,---- $450,000/Year
HOOD MEDICAL GROUP,GRANBURY,TX, ------- ORTHOPEDIC SURGEON, ----- $400,000/Year
KENNETT HMA PHYSICIAN MANAGEMENT, INC.,KENNETT,MO, --- INVASIVE CARDIOLOGIST, -- $400,000/Year
HARRIS METHODIST FORT WORTH MEDICAL FOUNDATION,FORT WORTH,TX,--- PHYSICIAN NEUROSURGEON, -- $400,000/Year
ST JUDE CHILDREN'S RESEARCH HOSPITAL,MEMPHIS,TN, ---- ANESTHESIOLOGISTS, ------ $370,000/Year
CONSULTING RADIOLOGISTS CORPORATION,TOLEDO,OH, ----- INTERVENTIONAL RADIOLOGIST,--- $360,000/Year
RADIOLOGY ASSOCIATES OF IBERIA, LLP,NEW IBERIA,LA, ---- PHYSICIAN, RADIOLOGIST, ---- $350,000/Year

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Old 02-20-2009, 04:11 PM
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Employer Name, Employer_City, Employer_State, ----PW_JOB_TITLE_9089 , ----WAGE_OFFER_FROM_9089

CINCINNATI CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL MEDICAL CENTER, CINCINNATI,OH,----- SURGEONS, -----$721,552/Year
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON,SEATTLE,WA, ------- PROFESSOR , ----- $475,000/Year
CENTRAL MAINE MEDICAL CENTER,LEWISTON,ME, ------ INTERNISTS,GENERAL , --- $450,000/Year
CENTRAL CALIFORNIA FACULTY MEDICAL GROUP, INC.,FRESNO,CA, ---- SURGEONS,---- $450,000/Year
HOOD MEDICAL GROUP,GRANBURY,TX, ------- ORTHOPEDIC SURGEON, ----- $400,000/Year
KENNETT HMA PHYSICIAN MANAGEMENT, INC.,KENNETT,MO, --- INVASIVE CARDIOLOGIST, -- $400,000/Year
HARRIS METHODIST FORT WORTH MEDICAL FOUNDATION,FORT WORTH,TX,--- PHYSICIAN NEUROSURGEON, -- $400,000/Year
ST JUDE CHILDREN'S RESEARCH HOSPITAL,MEMPHIS,TN, ---- ANESTHESIOLOGISTS, ------ $370,000/Year
CONSULTING RADIOLOGISTS CORPORATION,TOLEDO,OH, ----- INTERVENTIONAL RADIOLOGIST,--- $360,000/Year
RADIOLOGY ASSOCIATES OF IBERIA, LLP,NEW IBERIA,LA, ---- PHYSICIAN, RADIOLOGIST, ---- $350,000/Year


All top paid jobs are in medicine? I doubt the professor from the university of washington might be from medicine as well? any comments?

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