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I need your advice. Do online degreess such as from Phoenix etc hold value in USCIS's eyes. I have approved I-140 EB3-India which I might interfile for Eb2 and use the old PD in future.

Did anyabody had sucess in I140Eb2 where the masters was from Online University if yes could you please let me knwo the name of the institute.

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Dear Friends,

I need your advice. Do online degreess such as from Phoenix etc hold value in USCIS's eyes. I have approved I-140 EB3-India which I might interfile for Eb2 and use the old PD in future.

Did anyabody had sucess in I140Eb2 where the masters was from Online University if yes could you please let me knwo the name of the institute.

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All online degrees are useless as far as USCIS is concerned. It is a recipie for disaster. Let me know if you get your labor n eb2 approved in EB2 using online degree. You can also try online phd and file on Eb1.
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All online degrees are useless as far as USCIS is concerned. It is a recipie for disaster. Let me know if you get your labor n eb2 approved in EB2 using online degree. You can also try online phd and file on Eb1.
So as per you, if someone does a online MBA/MS from one of the top 25/50/NN universities ( and some do allow online degrees ), it is useless as far as USCIS is concerned - I think that is a pretty big claim - Do you care to elaborate providing some case studies or links to corroborate what you said.
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How about getting a degree for some value-add? Something that can advance your career like it's designed to? You're getting an advanced degree for all the wrong reasons. And yes, I'd love to see your labor approved with a Masters from University of Phoenix Online. This is depressing.
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How about getting a degree for some value-add? Something that can advance your career like it's designed to? You're getting an advanced degree for all the wrong reasons. And yes, I'd love to see your labor approved with a Masters from University of Phoenix Online. This is depressing.
No matter how hard you try and how many people are in the state of denial. Getting greencards in Eb1 so multinational manager category, fradulent eb2 category, and EB3 to EB2 porting is going to be damn difficult due to awareness spread by the affected people and involvement of politicans in this issues.
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Old 04-17-2011, 09:33 PM
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Guys I just wanted to know from this wonderful fourm that if anybody had sucess in eb2 after getting degree online from a purely online university which is typically cheaper and easier to get into. If somebody has any similar experience then please let me know.
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Huh! Where did you get it ? Completely wrong information.

A degree from ANY accredited school/program is acceptable by USCIS. There is no law that online degrees are not acceptable. FYI , some of the very reputed universities of US, including some state universities, offer online courses (particularly MBA).

Also, the degree is NOT evaluated during Labor , it is evaluated during 140.
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No matter how hard you try and how many people are in the state of denial. Getting greencards in Eb1 so multinational manager category, fradulent eb2 category, and EB3 to EB2 porting is going to be damn difficult due to awareness spread by the affected people and involvement of politicans in this issues.
What is "fraudulent" in getting degree from a accredited university? If that is fraudulent, even your degree is fradulent .
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What is "fraudulent" in getting degree from a accredited university? If that is fraudulent, even your degree is fradulent .
Any degree gotten while on job is not considered by USCIS, especially if the employer pays for it. The logic behind this is that if they hire an american in an EB3 kind of job and then he gets a degree while working, he should be able to fillin the eb2 position. And if you work for a small desi company, things will get further difficult as they have to fill the eb3 position otherwise the initial eb3 application itself is conisdered fraud. The only case that online degree can help is if the employee changes job.Hope this gets through your skull.
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Any degree gotten while on job is not considered by USCIS, especially if the employer pays for it. The logic behind this is that if they hire an american in an EB3 kind of job and then he gets a degree while working, he should be able to fillin the eb2 position. And if you work for a small desi company, things will get further difficult as they have to fill the eb3 position otherwise the initial eb3 application itself is conisdered fraud. The only case that online degree can help is if the employee changes job.Hope this gets through your skull.
1) There is no law that a degree gotten while on job or paid by employer will not be considered. I challenge you to cite a law . What law says is "experience" gained with the employer is not counted. Hope I need not explain you that Experience and Education are two different thing though both start with E

2) It is never easy to move from EB3 to EB2 with the same employer. It needs a significantly different role. But that is a tad different than "All online degrees are useless " argument .

3) OP did not mention about changing or not changing job.

4) Your swinging between "online degree are useless" and "degree gotten while on job is not considered by USCIS" just shows that you are clueless on what you are blabbering .

You need to come out of your GC depression/frustration before you speak.
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I think it was told before. Please try not to post unreliable information. When I worked in a law office we processed few EB cases with online degrees from Accredited Institutions in the US. USCIS can't reject a degree that is Regionally or Nationally Accredited. If a school has been accredited to issue a degree, the degree is valid and must be treated as a real degree including for immigration purposes.
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What is "fraudulent" in getting degree from a accredited university? If that is fraudulent, even your degree is fradulent .
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I think it was told before. Please try not to post unreliable information. When I worked in a law office we processed few EB cases with online degrees from Accredited Institutions in the US. USCIS can't reject a degree that is Regionally or Nationally Accredited. If a school has been accredited to issue a degree, the degree is valid and must be treated as a real degree including for immigration purposes.
You must have worked in law firm back in the dotcom days when evern milkmen from villages got their greencards in eb1/2 category. Things have changed a lot buddy. Any qualifications earned during employment cannot be used to qualify for a higher category at the same employer. This was the rule told by a reputed law from not the one that caters to the shady desi bodyshops.
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First, I am not your "buddy" and secondly, I was referring to Online Degrees being valid and not to "experience" gained per se. If you can't be nice, try not to write because it will appear by all means that your degree is fraudulent
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You must have worked in law firm back in the dotcom days when evern milkmen from villages got their greencards in eb1/2 category. Things have changed a lot buddy. Any qualifications earned during employment cannot be used to qualify for a higher category at the same employer. This was the rule told by a reputed law from not the one that caters to the shady desi bodyshops.
Hmmm ... why don't you share a link to the "reputed" law firm which says "All online degrees are useless " OR "degree earned during employment cannot be used for a higher category at the same employer". We are all eager to get some hither to unknown information from you Sir -- the Ivy League educated Master
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