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  #6751  
Old 08-14-2013, 12:01 PM
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EB3 did jump by more than 6 months, although for different reasons possibly.
I think it is combination of

1) Eb 3 to Eb 2 Porting
2) EB 3 row spillover

eb 3 DATES for ROW have gone up.DOS also states the same thing.
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Can experts (Teddy) weigh in why the dates have jumped the way they have done?
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:30 AM
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I'm not Teddy, but the dates moved because the spillover numbers need to be used up by 9/30/2013 for EB. The only way to do that is to move the PDs and approve cases which become current and apply the numbers DoS says it have available.

With porting, there is double counting of the data. So many EB3-I folks who may have gained GC by porting to EB2 are still counted in the EB3-I data since their dates aren't/weren't current in that category. When it becomes current, the data may be updated to reflect the true waiting applications.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:52 AM
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Now your mention of "double data counting" is interesting since there is a trend in the dates for China too.
Their EB3 has actually shot ahead of EB2 by almost 2 years. Just reminds me of everyone trying to get into the adjacent fast lane in traffic and eventually both lanes pretty much normalizing. With EB2-India dates going all the way back to Sep 2004 previously and EB3 now jumping to end 2003 seems to be showing a closing gap.
Fresh demand data will be interesting especially if we see retrogression in EB2(and to what point) again by the end of the year. Will the 2 lanes finally land up being closer to each other meaning whoever wanted to port prior to 2004 has already done so..........also how much new demand the dates having moved rapidly has generated will be interesting.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:58 AM
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I'm not Teddy, but the dates moved because the spillover numbers need to be used up by 9/30/2013 for EB. The only way to do that is to move the PDs and approve cases which become current and apply the numbers DoS says it have available.

With porting, there is double counting of the data. So many EB3-I folks who may have gained GC by porting to EB2 are still counted in the EB3-I data since their dates aren't/weren't current in that category. When it becomes current, the data may be updated to reflect the true waiting applications.
Thanks buddy Iam also one ordinary guy like you. My personal take is that the dates for all categories have been pushed forward quite generously so as to use all available numbers.
For EB3 especially the main reason is that the EB3 ROW demand pipeline is lean even after the date movements in the previous bulletins so those are the numbers that EB3 India and China may stand to gain. If everyone current in September gets approved it would be very good otherwise letís hope for maximum possible approvals, at some point in September all numbers will get exhausted similar to what happens every year.
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Hello Teddy & Others,
Firstly, a big thanks for all the wealth of information being shared on this site. It's probable that the answer to my below question can be searched for within this thread, but I would appreciate a current response:

My priority date is 18 Feb 2003 in the EB3 category. I had applied for 485 in July 2007. I recall fingerprinting being completed around the same time and don't think I got another call for fingerprinting.

- Is it possible that I am asked to undergo fingerprinting again or perform any other actions?
- What is the site where I would register and be able to check the status of my 485 approval?
- Can I perform any actions that will trigger action on my case?

Thanks so much.
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Hoping that the following statement will be true or will be better than this
NewsFlash! February 2008 Best Case Estimate for EB2 India ę Murthy Law Firm : U.S. Immigration Law

Are there chances that dates will retrogress after Aug/Sept 2013 for EB 2?

Regards

See what happened to Murthy's estimate and same for all other so called pundits!

I think our folks here know much more than these high rolling lawyers..
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Thanks buddy Iam also one ordinary guy like you. My personal take is that the dates for all categories have been pushed forward quite generously so as to use all available numbers.
For EB3 especially the main reason is that the EB3 ROW demand pipeline is lean even after the date movements in the previous bulletins so those are the numbers that EB3 India and China may stand to gain. If everyone current in September gets approved it would be very good otherwise letís hope for maximum possible approvals, at some point in September all numbers will get exhausted similar to what happens every year.
Can you or anyone confirm if there was a spillover from EB3ROW to India? Is any lawyer saying yes or no to it?

If there is a spillover it is against the law. Spillover to EB3 India cannot happen until EB3ROW is current. EB3ROW are unaware about this if it has happened to them. It is good for Indians who are backlogged but would have been good if CO had clarified.
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Old 08-20-2013, 03:30 PM
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Can you or anyone confirm if there was a spillover from EB3ROW to India? Is any lawyer saying yes or no to it?

If there is a spillover it is against the law. Spillover to EB3 India cannot happen until EB3ROW is current. EB3ROW are unaware about this if it has happened to them. It is good for Indians who are backlogged but would have been good if CO had clarified.

1) They have to apply the law.So that what they did ? If what they did was wrong,they would be challenged.DOS should clear all doubts about visa bulletin& movement of dates
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Awesome news for EB3 folks. Any reason for this dramatic jump? I hope it is not a typo
My guess is that significant approvals on interfilin cases. Approving one 485 related with interfiling removes two numbers - one from EB2 and one from EB3. Same pattern repeats for associated family members. I think that is the reason we see progression in both EB2-I and EB3 - I. I am hesitant to buy the EB3 Raw sillover theory.
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See what happened to Murthy's estimate and same for all other so called pundits!

I think our folks here know much more than these high rolling lawyers..
That was NOT Murthy's estimate. Click the link and read it. The estimate was from DOS.
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As the movement of priority dates are so random/uncertain,can some one provide some good estimates,about the time it might to move from September 2003 to end of 2004
for EB 3 iNDIA, WITH the current trend of porting
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As the movement of priority dates are so random/uncertain,can some one provide some good estimates,about the time it might to move from September 2003 to end of 2004
for EB 3 iNDIA, WITH the current trend of porting
People assume its only one factor affecting the movemnent like porting or spillovers. Actually the biggest variable in the "mix" is how much "new demand" will the current movement generate in every category. Yours, USCIS, DOS or my guess regarding the same is as good as anynbody's as of now.
"EOY updated demand data" might provide some insight into the same and that is alsio what I guess USCIS or DOS also looks at before trying to predict movements.
If history is any indicator my best guess is expect any major movements in the last quarter of every year and hope dates do not retrogress too back for the rest of the year.
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Folks there are several posts especially as to why EB3 India dates especially moved by 8 months. These are just my own thoughts so feel free to derive your own inferences.

- We received 18K extra visa's from FB this year however just 360 would proportionately go to EB3-I this is not much.

- EB3 India dates have moved significantly this year and very easily by tallying against the inventory they have moved well beyond 3000 visas and also people typically in ths rage prior to Jan 2003 were not porting.

- EB3 ROW dates have been moved fairly aggressively as well but it seems like that demand was not generated to the extent to fulfill the row annual cap.

- So my guess or just my personal take is that the dates have been aggressively moved to ensure that numbers are not wasted.

- EB3 Row may become current to create an inventory if even the current movement does not create an inventory and then retrogress back. it will be interesting to see the numbers here as even ROW folks are applying in higher numbers in EB2, in fact they have no reason to try for EB1 if bot categories are current.

- All EB3-I folks who have become current now wish you all the best, I hope everyone gets approved but in reality Sep will likely be a month of random approvals which may truly not follow any order.USCIS approval process is not a single thread batch process however a multi thread user intensive process. From what it appears that even though a case maybe in the so called preadjudicated state still the officers give it one final look before approval. So all theories about RD/ND/RD are just statistics its simply your luck now. There is high likelihood of the numbers getting finished before the September month end.

- Also what exactly is the source or distribution of numbers nobody knows it will be published in the DOS annual report which takes almost a year but most likely these numbers are EB3 ROW spillover not porting or fb.
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