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eastindia 03-04-2016 03:26 PM

India moves WTO against US on temporary working visa issue
 
India takes US to WTO over IT visa fee rise | Business Standard News

India moves WTO against US on temporary working visa issue - Times of India


What is this? Why is India supporting exploitation of Indians on H1B visa?

vikidisi 03-04-2016 03:32 PM

India has always considered H1-B visa as a Trade Issue with USA. They don't really see the human side of it.

pappu 03-04-2016 03:40 PM

I think the perspective needs to change. Indian government should also see the human side of things from H1B worker's point of view and take up issues concerning H1B workers already here in US.

DMX17 03-04-2016 06:16 PM

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-r...ition-on-visas

He will come after ya TCS, Infy.....!

"Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration: these are temporary foreign workers, imported from abroad, for the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay. I remain totally committed to eliminating rampant, widespread H-1B abuse and ending outrageous practices such as those that occurred at Disney in Florida when Americans were forced to train their foreign replacements. I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions."

mayhemt 03-04-2016 09:42 PM

Coincidence?
 
Is this a coincidence or a retaliation move?
U.S. wins WTO dispute against India's solar rules

houston_boy 03-05-2016 01:15 AM

Taking social security back to India
 
Hi Admin

I heard that some of the Europian country citizens after working in USA they pay social security tax (we all do) in US and take all the social security tax back to their country when they decide to move to their country permanently. If this is true why not India can try for the same rule with US Social Security Administration with India PF admin.

This will give a great relief to many indians who are waiting in GC line for decades can move back to India (if they decide) with huge amount of money (close to 100 to 200K) and will settle down in India.

Atleast this will put pressure on US government to move the GC Queue.

regs

houston_boy 03-05-2016 01:24 AM

1 Taking social security back to India
 
Hi Admin

I heard that some of the Europian country citizens after working in USA they pay social security tax (we all do) in US and take all the social security tax back to their country when they decide to move to their country permanently. If this is true why not India can try for the same rule with US Social Security Administration with India PF admin.

This will give a great relief to many indians who are waiting in GC line for decades can move back to India (if they decide) with huge amount of money (close to 100 to 200K) and will settle down in India.

Atleast this will put pressure on US government to move the GC Queue.

regs

AceMan 03-05-2016 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vikidisi (Post 3595839)
India has always considered H1-B visa as a Trade Issue with USA. They don't really see the human side of it.

There is no human side to H1B visa for India or any other country. It is pure trade.

Administrator2 03-05-2016 04:14 PM

Immigration into any country is their sovereign issue. It has nothing to do with trade.

Is Indian government letting 60K + 20K H-1B type of visa holders in to India every year, plus, unlimited number of L-1 visa type folks? Is any other government other than United States doing that? If the answer is no, which most definitely is the correct response, then H-1B or immigration into US is NOT trade issue. Trade has to be fair. And for trade to be fair, all parties must abide by the same rules. Clearly, other countries do not. Therefore, H-1B or L-1 visa is NOT trade issue.

Indian government should be ashamed of itself to push for laws so millions of its citizens are exploited in US. Instead of lining the pockets of billionaires, Indian government should handle this issue such that its own people are not exploited. But no, like in every other government in the world, Indian government has always been puppets of billionaires. So why would it behave any different?

AceMan 03-05-2016 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Administrator2 (Post 3595858)
Immigration into any country is their sovereign issue. It has nothing to do with trade.

Is Indian government letting 60K + 20K H-1B type of visa holders in to India every year, plus, unlimited number of L-1 visa type folks? Is any other government other than United States doing that? If the answer is no, which most definitely is the correct response, then H-1B or immigration into US is NOT trade issue. Trade has to be fair. And for trade to be fair, all parties must abide by the same rules. Clearly, other countries do not. Therefore, H-1B or L-1 visa is NOT trade issue.

Indian government should be ashamed of itself to push for laws so millions of its citizens are exploited in US. Instead of lining the pockets of billionaires, Indian government should handle this issue such that its own people are not exploited. But no, like in every other government in the world, Indian government has always been puppets of billionaires. So why would it behave any different?

H1B is a multi intended visa. It is a specialty visa where the candidate is among the "brightest". Now H1, L1 visa is gamed by big players from India, or US players with big presence in India. Now the business crowd is not going to back down on their needs of fresh and cheap labor. They are talking about 300000 H1's per year, which will ensure even your Indian born kids don't get US citizenship during their life time.

If a visa holder is violated against in their contract, US has the mechanism to complaint to DOL or USCIS before they make a complaint to the embassy. We have seen many many instances where guys come in the forum and say DESI consultant did this, that every imaginable cruelty in the world, but when asked to complaint, they want to get the money and be done with it.

We left India for better quality of life is our own decision. Our decision to apply for GC and US citizenship is to get the perks that offers. So it does not make any sense for us to blame Indian government for the predicament we are in, due to the US immigration laws for the decision we took as individuals for our own career and personal improvement.

Administrator2 03-05-2016 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceMan (Post 3595859)
H1B is a multi intended visa. It is a specialty visa where the candidate is among the "brightest". Now H1, L1 visa is gamed by big players from India, or US players with big presence in India. Now the business crowd is not going to back down on their needs of fresh and cheap labor. They are talking about 300000 H1's per year, which will ensure even your Indian born kids don't get US citizenship during their life time.

If a visa holder is violated against in their contract, US has the mechanism to complaint to DOL or USCIS before they make a complaint to the embassy. We have seen many many instances where guys come in the forum and say DESI consultant did this, that every imaginable cruelty in the world, but when asked to complaint, they want to get the money and be done with it.

We left India for better quality of life is our own decision. Our decision to apply for GC and US citizenship is to get the perks that offers. So it does not make any sense for us to blame Indian government for the predicament we are in, due to the US immigration laws for the decision we took as individuals for our own career and personal improvement.


When Indian government push for sending more Indians on H1/L1 visas knowing well that when they come over here, they will be exploited and taken advantage off, so handful of billionaire like Ambanis, Tatas, Wipros and Infosys style companies can pocket more cash. Is that not wrong?

If immigrants from any other country would be waiting in decades long backlogs, any other country would make that as its priority to bring up the issue with the US government. Instead of bringing up the issue of green card backlog, Indian government wants to push more people into backlog. Is that not wrong?

You can see your individual petition is your own and you can think whatever you want about it. But when it comes to over 1.5 million people, which includes families and children, governments have responsibility. And when governments downplay the problem of 1.5 million people and instead try to push more people into exploitation, that is simply wrong.

There is nothing wrong with calling what already is. Your denial has nothing to do with patriotism. Rather it is all about feeding the billionaires in India and America, at the expense of little people like us.


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