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Aemon.Targ 03-02-2016 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shyamps (Post 3595823)
DMX17, Its sad that our "high skilled" immigrant community with their "high skilled brains" don't understand the magnitude and scope of the problem they are up against. A cartel of immigration lawyers, an army of lobbyists, thousands of business interests with unimaginable amount of deep pockets & not to mention the entire twisted media who are paid to write stories are lobbying washington DC everyday, day in and day out to preserve the immigration system as it stands today to favor themselves. There is a reason why things are the way they are. Only when the entire high skilled community raise up, understand whats going on and participate actively in lobbying the Federal government to bring change will it be possible for any change to happen. The government is always going to think why should we do anything if immigrants are not asking for it? There is a reason why a grass roots movement like IV is very important. Sooner that the high skilled immigrants understand that, the better for everyone of them.


Problem here is that most of the high skilled immigrants doesn't understand the power of lobbying. People make fun of me when I try to explain how lobbying works, they think that its NOT possible to change or create laws with the help of lobbyists.

DMX17 03-02-2016 06:37 PM

Making fun of AILA Submission on AC21 Reg
 
I am starting this thread to just say: AILA submission is utter bullshit.

Here is my favorite part where AILA wants DHS to put more salt on our wounds:

Quote:

The population that will be drawn to this proposal is individuals who have an approved immigrant petition but who are unable to apply for adjustment of status due to the long visa backlogs. However, it must be made clear to this population that the beneficiary of an approved employment-based petition must have a valid offer of employment based on a valid petition, and that the applicant must intend to accept such offer of employment at the time of adjusting to permanent resident status (in cases where that option remains available) or entering the U.S. on an immigrant visa. It is assumed that most (c)(36) EAD applicants would be compelled to apply for independent work authorization to change jobs, employers, or even professions, and not to simply stay with their current employer. Therefore, (c)(36) EAD recipients must either have an arrangement with the petitioning employer to resume or assume the position articulated in the approved I-140 petition when the priority date becomes current, or they must make alternative arrangements with a new employer to commence the immigrant visa process anew. Though (c)(36) EAD recipients would be able to retain the priority date from the original petition (unless it is revoked due to fraud, misrepresentation, etc.), they would still need an approved petition with an employer intending to hire them on a permanent basis in order to obtain permanent residence.

Post your comments. Don't be fooled by Giskind or others.

vikidisi 03-02-2016 06:47 PM

I love Siskind's tweet today.

Hoping ABIL, IMG Taskforce and @AILANational comments will put to rest the myth that immigration lawyers are hostile to skilled immigrants

Print them both out, and put them side by side, and then lets have a conversation about who is really working on behalf of high skilled immigrants.

DMX17 03-02-2016 07:13 PM

I have yet to read ABIL and IMG comments but after reading AILA comments I have no energy left.

Siskind continues to be an inspiration for us immigrants with his never-ending urge to convince us that AILA and their esteemed members are on our side. I commend his tireless efforts (on twitter ;)) on behalf of the lawyers, but we are deeply disappointed that their efforts are shallow and are actually having an opposite effect of alienating the very immigrants who they supposedly strive to help succeed (by charging large fees and keep doin' it again and again on H1 extensions and PERMs and I-140s ;)).

I mean why does he have to tweet like that?

testman 03-02-2016 07:24 PM

The lawsuit they filed has already delayed the VB movement. I am not sure if that was a ploy to bargain with the DHS guys for the dilution of I-140 EO that ImmigrationVoice has been fighting for.

DMX17 03-02-2016 07:58 PM

ABIL comments are also mostly bullshit. They do talk about giving EAD for I-140 beneficiaries, but it is of no use if we have to re-start PERM/I-140 when we change jobs (which is the main hurdle we face).

So both (AILA and ABIL) submissions are full of shit.

chakdepatte 03-03-2016 01:47 PM

New Laws
 
maybe they are working on a new regulation

Kids born to legal immigrants must also apply for GC. The kids need an approved petition from their parents intending to nurture them on a permanent basis in order to obtain permanent residence.

How bout, lawyers get their fees only when the GC is approved.

you have to understand that the lawyers also need to build walls so that their bread and butter clients are not stolen.

Alas, the free world has slowed down so much that it has caught up with the third world countries.

DMX17 03-03-2016 02:15 PM

Here's your favorite lawyers telling you that they got your back:
DHS Knocked For Restrictiveness Of Immigrant Work Rule - Law360

shyamps 03-03-2016 07:41 PM

Unbelievable HIPOCRACY
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DMX17 (Post 3595787)
I am starting this thread to just say: AILA submission is utter bullshit.
Here is my favorite part where AILA wants DHS to put more salt on our wounds:
The population that will be drawn to this proposal is individuals who have an approved immigrant petition but who are

unable to apply for adjustment of status due to the long visa backlogs. However, it must be made clear to this population

that the beneficiary of an approved employment-based petition must have a valid offer of employment based on a valid

petition, and that the applicant must intend to accept such offer of employment at the time of adjusting to permanent

resident status (in cases where that option remains available) or entering the U.S. on an immigrant visa. It is assumed

that most (c)(36) EAD applicants would be compelled to apply for independent work authorization to change jobs, employers,

or even professions, and not to simply stay with their current employer. Therefore, (c)(36) EAD recipients must either have

an arrangement with the petitioning employer to resume or assume the position articulated in the approved I-140 petition

when the priority date becomes current, or they must make alternative arrangements with a new employer to commence the

immigrant visa process anew. Though (c)(36) EAD recipients would be able to retain the priority date from the original

petition (unless it is revoked due to fraud, misrepresentation, etc.), they would still need an approved petition with an

employer intending to hire them on a permanent basis in order to obtain permanent residence.
Post your comments. Don't be fooled by Giskind or others.

Here is the Text from Immigration nationality act that describes how an immigrants status must be adjusted.

Quote:


INA: ACT 245 - ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF NONIMMIGRANT TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE
Sec. 245. [8

U.S.C. 1255]

(a)
The status of an alien who was inspected and admitted or paroled into the United States

1/

or the status of any

other alien having an approved petition for classification

may be adjusted by the Attorney General, in his discretion and

under such regulations as he may prescribe, to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence if


(1) the alien

makes an application for such adjustment,



(2) the alien is eligible to receive an immigrant visa and is admissible to the United States for permanent residence, and




(3) an immigrant visa is immediately available to him at the time his application is filed.
Nowhere in the text passed by Congress (The Highest Authority of the country) does it say that an alien/immigrant must maintain employment with the same original petitioning employer during the entire green card process so he/she can adjust his/her status during the last stage of the process.

Despite this clear language in the act enacted by Congress, the people from AILA are the scoundrels who are trying to dictate to DHS to interpret the laws in the way it suits them so they can keep people stuck in green card backlogs forever so their lawyers can preserve their money making racket agenda of charging immigrants and their employers to indefenitely keep renewing their H1B visas to help keep them getting richerat our expense. Who the hell do these AILA people think they are? Creators of this Universe? I hope people are wise enough to see through their deceit and call them out for what they really are, unscrupulous @##@#@!@#!!!! Its time to set this lousy system that exploits immigrants straightened out!!! join IV in this fight!!!

DMX17 03-03-2016 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shyamps (Post 3595814)
Here is the Text from Immigration nationality act that describes how an immigrants status must be adjusted.



Nowhere in the text passed by Congress (The Highest Authority of the country) does it say that an alien/immigrant must maintain employment with the same original petitioning employer during the entire green card process so he/she can adjust his/her status during the last stage of the process.

Despite this clear language in the act enacted by Congress, the people from AILA are the scoundrels who are trying to dictate to DHS to interpret the laws in the way it suits them so they can keep people stuck in green card backlogs forever so their lawyers can preserve their money making racket agenda of charging immigrants and their employers to indefenitely keep renewing their H1B visas to help keep them getting richerat our expense. Who the hell do these AILA people think they are? Creators of this Universe? I hope people are wise enough to see through their deceit and call them out for what they really are, unscrupulous @##@#@!@#!!!! Its time to set this lousy system that exploits immigrants straightened out!!! join IV in this fight!!!

My man! Don't get me started again. OK here.....

As I have said, in their submissions like Amicus Briefs, they do not have a problem saying that an approved I-140 makes you "eligible for an immigrant visa" and they conveniently ignore using the words "with the same employer". But only if it helps to make their point. Here you see an opposite thing to make their point while they or even DHS do not even present the real basis for why we need to start process "anew". INA 204(j) cannot be the basis to re-start GC process because it was in fact a provision to prevent the green card process from re-starting!!! This is a different universe of absurdity that IMO only lawyers have secretly understood (read handshake).

The system is rigged by lawyers and bad employers who want to retain their slaves, while good employers and employees have to pay the fees just because lawyers and nexus want people to re-file again and again or just not escape the employer in the first place.

shyamps 03-03-2016 10:41 PM

Hugely Disappointed!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DMX17 (Post 3595822)
My man! Don't get me started again. OK here.....

As I have said, in their submissions like Amicus Briefs, they do not have a problem saying that an approved I-140 makes you "eligible for an immigrant visa" and they conveniently ignore using the words "with the same employer". But only if it helps to make their point. Here you see an opposite thing to make their point while they or even DHS do not even present the real basis for why we need to start process "anew". INA 204(j) cannot be the basis to re-start GC process because it was in fact a provision to prevent the green card process from re-starting!!! This is a different universe of absurdity that IMO only lawyers have secretly understood (read handshake).

The system is rigged by lawyers and bad employers who want to retain their slaves, while good employers and employees have to pay the fees just because lawyers and nexus want people to re-file again and again or just not escape the employer in the first place.

DMX17, Its sad that our "high skilled" immigrant community with their "high skilled brains" don't understand the magnitude and scope of the problem they are up against. A cartel of immigration lawyers, an army of lobbyists, thousands of business interests with unimaginable amount of deep pockets & not to mention the entire twisted media who are paid to write stories are lobbying washington DC everyday, day in and day out to preserve the immigration system as it stands today to favor themselves. There is a reason why things are the way they are. Only when the entire high skilled community raise up, understand whats going on and participate actively in lobbying the Federal government to bring change will it be possible for any change to happen. The government is always going to think why should we do anything if immigrants are not asking for it? There is a reason why a grass roots movement like IV is very important. Sooner that the high skilled immigrants understand that, the better for everyone of them.


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