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Even if 1000 of our ~41000 members contribute 100 dollars each, we can host two more events like this.

It makes sense to ask help from outside of the organization only when our internal resources are all exhausted. However, sadly, most of us do not want to even contribute for the good cause.
I am not a dornor, BUT, I am going to say this one more time:

1000 X $100 (one-time) = $100,000.00 (one time)

41,000 X $10/year = $410,000/YEAR

Take your pick.

It is is high time to make IV a paid subscription site, something as little as $10/year should bring in a STEADY, healthy flow of funds.

Even if HALF of IV members drop off, because of this $10/yr fee, we will still have $200,000.00/year in assured, steady flow.

I would like to see Pappu's comments on this, once he gets so time off from the avocacy effort.

BTW, I did send in my contribution for Advocacy effort.
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Default If July 07 hadn't happened

We could have got 1000 from each of the IV member, if July Fiasco hadn't happened.

Most I spoke to are content with EAD/AP.

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Even if 1000 of our ~41000 members contribute 100 dollars each, we can host two more events like this.

It makes sense to ask help from outside of the organization only when our internal resources are all exhausted. However, sadly, most of us do not want to even contribute for the good cause.
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I had this question - how the 50k would be used? If you could post in greater detail perhaps more members would be enlightened to contribute
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Default Thanks Sanju

Thank you Sanju for donating for this event .

Actually funds that are raised for an event should happen much before any such event because we need to lay the ground work for the event in DC . I dont know when our next event would be. IV core can comment on that after watching the legislative events in DC in next few months .

What i was conveying was, to donate to the pool of resources and be ready when the bills start moving in the congress . IV would need to hit the road again at that time to continue the momentum from the lobby event and have our provisions included in the base bill. Regarding the dollar number, i dont know how much would be needed.

On the day of the events you can get involved by actually hosting some members in your homes if u live in DC area . actually i hosted 3 guys from MI thsi time . that way it makes easier for the members on their pockets as they would have spent on air tickets etc.. there are many ways to be actively invloved in IV for our cause. you can motivate your collegues and friends do teh same for our cause. Rest assured that IV will use the money sensibly as i have seen in this event.

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Thanks Redds777!

For this event we did fund raising and that helped the cause. for the Lobby efforts is there any number that IV want to publish and members will get inspired again!
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Great Job by IV.

In fact, I met a fellow IV'ian who joined IV three days ago after learning about it through a friend and came to DC for the advocacy day.
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Thank You IV & redds777,

Thanks to all IV members who have participated in the Advocacy efforts in DC. Special thanks to redds777 for hosting some guest.

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I had this question - how the 50k would be used? If you could post in greater detail perhaps more members would be enlightened to contribute
The only way to enlighten yourself and others is to get yourself and your friends involved and participating towards the effort. You will automatically see the sacrifices made by others who are not thinking about "I" all the time.

No sensible member would expect detailed spending reports to be published on a public forum. I hope you weren't expecting that?
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Advocacy day is going well. There are about 300 meetings being planed between today and tomorrow. Its very hectic in the situation room.

This afternoon USCIS Ombudsman came to meet us in the situation room and spoke with the members. More details and pictures will be posted soon. Stay tuned.
This is one of the most important event conducted. I feel bad that I couldn't attend in person.

Kudos and special thanks to everyone who made this happen.
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I was there for the three days (though I was very late on Sunday). This was an exciting experience for me. I was involved in 10 meetings with the lawmaker's offices on Monday & Tuesday.

I would also like to thank DesiXP for arranging accommodation for me and my friend.

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I had this question - how the 50k would be used? If you could post in greater detail perhaps more members would be enlightened to contribute
This got me 3 more reds

If this is the reception a perfectly good point like mine gets, then it certainly doesn't reflect well. To let you know, I have just contributed $100, so reserve your reds for the other guys contributing sweet talks and 0 $$$. And if you have given me red and not contributed, then you are the real A$$#073 here

I request members to quit being childish and engage in sincere discussions
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The only way to enlighten yourself and others is to get yourself and your friends involved and participating towards the effort. You will automatically see the sacrifices made by others who are not thinking about "I" all the time.

No sensible member would expect detailed spending reports to be published on a public forum. I hope you weren't expecting that?
I never asked this question for myself

And I never discredited anyone for their effort

I am just chipping in with a suggestion on how to improve members' involvement level. It's unfortunate you have interpreted this as some kind of personal attack, which it is anything but
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Default I have One suggestion to gk_2000 and others

Those of you who dont believe IV is not spending the money collected judiciously, I completely understand your concern. please attend one event and you see for yourself and then decide if you want to continue the donations. After seeing the usage of resources and efforts IV is putting i am sure you will be convinced . For ex; for this Event IV had to book Hyatt hotel conference room for 3 days in washington DC for co-ordinating and training the members who are meeting the lawmakers.Everything is expensive in DC as you may have noticed.

We are all professionals in IV. We dont want to make a living out of deceiving people. we all have our day jobs . we are trying to achieve a common goal which will benifit a lot of people on this forum and those who are not in this forum also .

you may be wondering why i am suddenly becoming more active and writing so many posts. you are right i had never written so many posts before and I am not one of teh core IV as well. After attending the event i realized how many other competing groups are aiming for the same pie ie. green cards for various categories through lobbying efforts on the hill. if we dont rise up and fight for our piece of the pie, other groups will eat our piece and leave the emply box for us .

Again do actively participate and give it a try you will be satisfied with the outcome.

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And I never discredited anyone for their effort

I am just chipping in with a suggestion on how to improve members' involvement level. It's unfortunate you have interpreted this as some kind of personal attack, which it is anything but
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There is no doubt participation by all is very important. I have also emailed my regional politicians thru IV website and encourage everyone to do the same
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I am not on estrogen therapy, but I decided to write about the feelings that I underwent during the 3 days of the event. If you do not want to read the entire post, skip to the last paragraph.

1. Anxiety: On Sunday, as I was making my way towards Hyatt Regency on the Capitol Hill (a beautiful and an expensive hotel) I was a little anxious about meeting new people (I am a closet introvert ). I was not sure if the people would just continue the non-productive conversations about Eb3 vs EB2 or India vs ROW or just be plain annoying. Boy, was I wrong!!! That anxiety disappeared in a matter of minutes after walking in the situation room. The folks were dedicated and meant business. The leadership of the core group was evident, they made sure that we didn't go off message, relatively an easy task for them since most of us there realized the importance of keeping on message.

2.Excitement: As we started the training, people started pouring great ideas (and few not so great IMHO).The trainer in chief chased each of these ideas to its logical conclusion and without saying whether they had merit or not made it obvious for us to decide. How classy and what a phenomenal coaching style!. The talking points that we discussed were articulated meticulously and question/comments were dealt with insight, experience and facts (this one is very important, we all know what opinions are like...). This was the one feeling (excitement) that lasted through the 3 days and I still cant shake it off (not that I am trying, but I don't want people to confuse me for the energizer bunny!! - we have some one else for that )

3.Nervousness: The first meeting. No, no not with the folks from Congress, but the mock meeting at the training session. The veterans gave us a demonstration of their insights/ knowledge and quick wit. So of course I was nervous coming in after that performance. I volunteered to be on the first ones of these mock sessions and felt all eyes in the room on me. I tried to focus on the task at hand (which was at that time, to stop my legs from shaking ). Perhaps, the mock session was the toughest of all the meetings that I had on the hill (remember that the hotel was 'on the hill' too ).

4.Awesomeness: This is what it was all about. For me as a first timer, entering the hallowed halls of congress and participating in the democratic process up close and personal is an awesome feeling. Just walking down those corridors and noticing the closed doors with signs that say 'Appropriations Committee', or 'Democratic Caucus' and knowing that laws that affect lives of more than 300 million people are being crafted, debated and being voted on right there....what a rush. I think this too will be with me for a long long time.

5.Camaraderie: This is a fun bunch of serious people on a mission. I think mostly everyone hit off well with everyone else. I made a whole bunch of acquaintances that I feel could mature into strong friendships. Even though we worked our collective butts off, there was always light hearted humor floating around. It was great.

6.Gratitude: Looking at the hard work put in by the countless tireless volunteers was a humbling experience. These very kind souls put in hour after hour of work during the event but they put in even more before the event started. I don't know, if the rest of you know, organizing an event at such a scale is a massive undertaking and despite hiccups we came out the other end in great shape. My gratitude goes to all the people that put their hearts, minds and souls in allowing our community to participate in the democratic process at the highest level. Thanks for making this happen.

Why am I writing this you wonder (or may be not). This event changed me. I felt myself grow in these 3 days. I rubbed shoulders with some of the most famous and powerful men and women in the nation and conveyed our message. I also saw first hand the resource constraints that IV has and how they figure something out and make it happen. Trust me folks, it is not easy to work thanklessly for days on end for 18 hours and still keep a cheerful demeanor but they did. My sincere thanks to IV leadership, all the fellow volunteers and all monetary contributers for allowing me such a great opportunity. Part of me hopes that we never have to do this again, but that hope also makes me sad that I probably wont get to experience a full gamut of feelings again.
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I hope Pappu will post a succinent summary of the event soon. Please dont do it in donors forum only. Many of us have contributed to IVs efforts and for one reason or other don't have donor access.
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