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pappu
01-22-2014, 11:00 AM
The link to the registration form --> http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=80&Itemid=132

Greetings!

It's time to refocus our energies on making immigration reform a reality. We are at a critical juncture in the U.S Congress. As you may be aware, the House of Representatives is expected to bring its own bill, for a vote on the House floor.

But given the trend of immigration bills under consideration in the House of Representatives, it will be naive to believe that employment based green card backlogs will be automatically resolved. As shared in our previous newsletter (http://www.getresponse.com/archive/ivnewsletter/11699492.html), the House bill H.R.2131 (http://immigrationvoice.org/media/SKILLS_Visa_Act_Summary.pdf) will result in a ten fold increase in the existing backlog and a wait time of 300 years from the current 30 years, which is impractical.

We have to ensure that we are not forgotten, as we carry the burden of speaking up and sharing our stories. Either we can sit on the sidelines and watch a small handful of groups obfuscate our issues, or, we have the option to stand-up now and speak up to help craft a fair policy - the most American thing to do.

If you ask us, we say let's step-up and join hands, meet lawmakers, speak up in town halls, come to DC for the advocacy event, donate air miles, help fund someone else's travel, donate towards the organization of the event, make phone calls and spread the message.

The IV core team cannot do this alone. We need your help urgently to focus on 2 Action Items.

* Lobby Days in Washington, D.C.: Register for DC advocacy event (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=80&Itemid=132) on March 1 - 4. Make travel plans in advance and join your fellow IV members, to meet and advocate our fixes with more than 300 Members of Congress. You can be a part of making history and have the satisfaction of doing something for yourself and your family.

* Contribution: As you may know, we have paid advocacy efforts ongoing in DC on a continuous basis and we receive professional counsel from lobbyists. In order to keep those critical efforts going they must be well-funded during this important period. We need your help to pitch in and contribute (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/misc.php?do=donate) towards this cause. You have the opportunity to see the wonderful work being done for yourself by attending our advocacy event in DC on March 1-4.

Although we all love Democracy, nothing happens by itself. The onus of speaking up and participating in the political process always lies on the people seeking a change. Each one of us has the capacity to do his/her share. The question is not - can we make a difference; the real question is - WILL WE STEP-UP TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE?

Please do not assume or take it for granted that green card backlogs will be automatically solved in the final package of immigration reform.

Life is too short. You can either spend your time on the sidelines, or, you could join others in the good fight, which we all will remember for rest of our lives. Put your time, money and effort on the table. You will not be doing it for anyone else. This is about you and your families. We hope that each one of you will make the right choice, so that you can look back at this moment, one day, with pride not regret.

We look forward to seeing you in Washington, D.C. on March 1st - 4th (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=80&Itemid=132).

Thank You,
Immigration Voice

pappu
01-22-2014, 11:00 AM
What is Advocacy Days?

Advocacy Days does not involve rallies or protest on the streets. Instead Advocacy Days involve working collaboratively with the office of the Members of Congress in meeting format. This is more of the meeting in which you explain issues affecting you and the community. Members of Congress are not fully aware of our issues, which is why events such as - Advocacy Days - is needed to create awareness on our issues. Members of Congress want to listen and learn about the hardships faced by immigrants, they want to fix the broken system. The question is, are you willing to step up to make your voice count and actively participate to make the difference.


Why is this a 3 day event?

The way we organize advocacy days is - we ask that you arrive in Washington, D.C. either on the 1st night or 2nd March early morning. Whole day on 2nd March, we will go over how to tell your unedited personal story effectively. You may think you know everything about advocacy, but the fact is, if you have not been to meeting with your representatives in the past, chances are you will not be able to make the best out of the face time with the Congressional offices. That is why attending this training is very very important and mandatory for effective and successful advocacy meetings so that you could articulate the issue, problems and solutions/recommendations to fix the system.


Have you done Advocacy Days before?

We have conducted over 12 advocacy days till now. Due to various reason, many of these events were not unannounced on the forum. Each Advocacy event involves constituents coming in from across the country, as far as Alaska and Hawaii, representing each State/district. Most Advocacy days are attended by around 100-125 members. This time we are expecting around 350 Congressional meetings in two days. In these meetings we will explain our issues and providing meaningful suggestions to fix the systematic problem with the system.


How many meetings will I go to?

After all day training on the 2nd March, your entire day on 3rd and 4th March will be packed with Congressional meetings. You will be going to Congressional meetings in small groups with others attending the Advocacy days from your State/other States.


How many IV members are you expecting in this Advocacy Days? Who has already signed up?

We are planning on conducting around 350 meetings in 2 days. So we would like around 150 members to attend this event. If you can imagine, scheduling 350 Congressional meetings, matching with the schedule of 150 different people coming in and leaving from out of town, making sure everyone is comfortable and well placed, it's a complex task to plan and execute such an event. Which is why, we prefer no more than 150 members. The question is, are you willing to step up to make your voice count and actively participate to make the difference.

Some of the IV members who have already signed up include PHDs, Medical doctors, employees to large tech companies, university professors etc. We would like to invite everyone who aligns with our stated goals of elimination of EB backlogs.

What are you supposed to do to be part of Advocacy days? What Do I need to do in advance?

You do not have to do anything in advance. If you have the burning desire to stand-up for you and your family, to speak up and have your voice heard in a democratic process, have lawmakers listen to your issues so that there could be a meaningful reform, then this is your chance to make a difference.

Just sign-up and show up on time. We will setup meetings with Senate offices and specific House offices for you. When you arrive, we will hand you your meeting schedule, training material, advocacy folders for each office, provide you with specific training on how to meaningfully and effectively communicate your personal story, plus we will go over how to explain our problems and issues when you go for the meetings with Congressional Offices.

Sign-up for the Advocacy days here (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=80)


I've Secret clearance required for my job, will attending Advocacy Days affect my clearance?

Speaking-up and making your voice heard in a civilized manner is the most American thing. In Advocacy events, we are meeting with Congressional offices to tell our stories and recommend solutions based on how things work on the ground. There is nothing wrong with participating in Advocacy days. In fact, at the meeting you could probably end up getting picture with your Senator or Member of Congress. None of this should negatively affect your security clearance of any other part of your job or immigration process.

Please read below for the experience of others who attend past IV Advocacy Days:

1) redds777 sharing his story and highlighting the importance of the IV platform.

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/1598012-live-updates-advocacy-day-event.html#post1962756

2) devang777 shares his inspiring experience and the power feeling of visiting Capitol Hill.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/1598012-live-updates-advocacy-day-event-2.html#post1962889


3) needhelp has flown across the country to be at EVERY IV advocacy event, even after getting her GC. She is one of our respected lead volunteers and has been involved with the behind-the-scenes logistics and preparations for every IV advocacy event. Below is her experience -

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/1598012-live-updates-advocacy-day-event-3.html#post1963685

4) Advocacy day experience by Starsun, another major driving force behind coordinating all our advocacy events

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/1598012-live-updates-advocacy-day-event-3.html#post1963702

5) http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/1598012-live-updates-advocacy-day-event-3.html#post1963852

6) gsc999 shares a very important perspective and his experience with advocacy.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/1598012-live-updates-advocacy-day-event-3.html#post1963883

7) logiclife sharing his IV advocacy experience in an inspiring way
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/1598012-live-updates-advocacy-day-event-4.html#post1964344

8) goosetavo sharing his experience and highlighting the importance of advocating for our cause

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/1598012-live-updates-advocacy-day-event-4.html#post1964381

9) Longtime IV member santb1975 providing a detailed description about the 3-day event in April 2010.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/1598012-live-updates-advocacy-day-event-4.html#post1965259

pappu
01-22-2014, 11:01 AM
The link to the registration form --> ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy Event Registration Form (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=80&Itemid=132)

pappu
01-22-2014, 11:09 AM
The thread will be updated soon with details. Please post this link
ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy Event Registration Form (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=80&Itemid=132)
on all other websites. Please continue to do that everyday on other websites, community groups so that this link stays on top and not get buried or deleted. It will help publicize the event and get more participation. Please also post the link http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=80&Itemid=132 on your facebook so that your friends know about it. We have seen sharing on Facebook is a more effective method than any advertising effort.

Please also contribute generously so that we can cover the expenses of the event.

Desertfox
01-22-2014, 04:32 PM
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django1
01-23-2014, 05:44 AM
Hello,

I don't mean to draw attention away from the plights of those waiting for GC's but could there be any agenda items for GC Holders. Before you ask, I have been to multiple advocacy days and made 4-figure contributions. maybe causes such as requesting that ppl who have waited more than 10 years for GC get citizenship on an expedited basis or reducing the wait time for employment based GC's to citizenship to 3 years (such as what exists for marriage based GC's, I think) would benefit all (both current and future green card holders).

sorry if I am diverting attention in any way, don't mean to do the same.

Thanks

pappu
01-23-2014, 08:50 AM
Hello,

I don't mean to draw attention away from the plights of those waiting for GC's but could there be any agenda items for GC Holders. Before you ask, I have been to multiple advocacy days and made 4-figure contributions. maybe causes such as requesting that ppl who have waited more than 10 years for GC get citizenship on an expedited basis or reducing the wait time for employment based GC's to citizenship to 3 years (such as what exists for marriage based GC's, I think) would benefit all (both current and future green card holders).

sorry if I am diverting attention in any way, don't mean to do the same.

Thanks
It would have to be a separate project. IV is stretched thin on time and resources to take it up. It is something GC holders can certainly take it up. The question is how many citizens and greencard holders think there is a burning need for it and how much they are willing to sacrifice for it? It will require several years of advocacy and lot of their resources and time to bring awareness and advocate for it. Even a simple idea takes a lot to get anything done. So whoever is working on it should be committed to work on it for many years if needed despite getting their citizenship for the benefit of others behind him. The other issue with this kind of idea is how much support you can get both financially and time from current greencard holders and citizens. By financial support I mean significant amount in total and not just $25 each month. Remember citizens and greencard holders can contribute directly to election campaigns. It will be a different ballgame that will require upgrading from IV level advocacy which I think only a handful who have been with IV for a very long time, attended many events, fundraisers of congressmen, done networking, traveled across the country to meet people on their own funds and vacation time and built alliances and contacts with several organizations really understand. Basically the more you do all these, the better your chances are. It applies to IV as well and if we had more resources, fulltime staff our achievements would have been a lot more by now.

It is not to discourage you. But it is beyond the world of forums and online petitions that many are used to. One should know what it will take if one wants to get into it after becoming a GC holder or citizen..

Rajeev
01-24-2014, 03:42 PM
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01-25-2014, 03:16 PM
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rupen
02-03-2014, 10:40 PM
Why is this forum so quiet on this ?

spaceguy
02-08-2014, 12:12 PM
Are we still doing this ?
I have registered to come . So far I didn't get any updates.
Any body is coordinating the accommodation, car pool to the venue etc.

sage2006
02-08-2014, 03:15 PM
Of course the event is still on. Thanks a lot for your participation and registering. Our volunteers are preparing for the event in full swing ... we will be in touch shortly with respect to providing logistical details to the folks who have registered. Please stay tuned and encourage your colleagues, friends to join in. As you may have viewed in our newsletter, this is a key moment for immigration reform this year and we have to push forward with maximum participation in this grass-roots lobby event to ensure our provisions are part of the House package.

Are we still doing this ?
I have registered to come . So far I didn't get any updates.
Any body is coordinating the accommodation, car pool to the venue etc.

ajay
02-09-2014, 09:01 AM
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greyhair
02-09-2014, 04:09 PM
Of course the event is still on. Thanks a lot for your participation and registering. Our volunteers are preparing for the event in full swing ... we will be in touch shortly with respect to providing logistical details to the folks who have registered. Please stay tuned and encourage your colleagues, friends to join in. As you may have viewed in our newsletter, this is a key moment for immigration reform this year and we have to push forward with maximum participation in this grass-roots lobby event to ensure our provisions are part of the House package.

sage/Mr. Moderator,

Could I please ask you respectfully. Why do you keep doing these grass-roots lobby events? I've attended a few in the past myself and I plan to attend this one too. Would it not be more prudent to consider change in the strategy as follows.

As an individual, I am a big supporter of individual freedom. When I landed in this country this is one of the reasons that fascinated me. Therefore, by inclination of my believes, even though I am not LGBT, not there there is anything wrong with it, I have always supported LGBT rights. Individual rights in pursuit of happiness out-weigh any belief system of others in the society, including religious beliefs. Its that simple.

That being said, why the hell every news media and every lawmakers only talks about LGBT 99.99% of the time, as if there is no other issue. As one of those in the supporting camp for the rights of LGBT, even I am frustrated by the repetition of the same talk points by media, Obama administration and by those in Congress. If you listen to media or Attorney General or Members of Congress, you will believe that the only thing wrong with this world is LGBT don't have same rights #appalling.

If this is going to be as it has been, why do these grass-roots lobby events? Because the truth is - no one cares if we say that 700K Indian immigrants are being exploited. But maybe it might help if we just all change to be LGBT. Then we will be able to go to these meetings and proudly say that green card backlogs is persecution of 700K "LGBT" Indians. Then give it 2 months and you will have a permanent solution to employment based green card backlogs.

I am sorry Mr. Moderator, but there is no other way in sight.

Peace

looivy
02-10-2014, 05:38 AM
Of course the event is still on. Thanks a lot for your participation and registering. Our volunteers are preparing for the event in full swing ... we will be in touch shortly with respect to providing logistical details to the folks who have registered. Please stay tuned and encourage your colleagues, friends to join in. As you may have viewed in our newsletter, this is a key moment for immigration reform this year and we have to push forward with maximum participation in this grass-roots lobby event to ensure our provisions are part of the House package.

Should IV postpone it because Boehner is not saying that it is not happening this year.

abcdgc
02-10-2014, 12:41 PM
Should IV postpone it because Boehner is not saying that it is not happening this year.

If you read media reports, its clear that Boehner is making these statements because there are Republican primaries in June. Boehner need moderate republicans and democrats to pass a bill in the House. Any talk of a possible immigration bill puts moderate Republican members at the risk of losing primaries against more conservative tea-party candidates. Boehner is making these statements to give some protection to moderate Republicans in the primary elections. Media reports are saying that after the republican primaries are over, immigration bill will again come to the forefront. Otherwise why did Republicans come out with 'immigration principles' and within a week now Boehner is saying that he doesn't trust the President.

IV should not postpone because parachuting at the last minute doesn't work. Policy is finalized long before any bill shows up. We have to go in to influence the policy. This cannot be done after the bill is drafted. In September-2013 I learned that the steps before bill introduction are -

1.) Policy discussion
2.) Decision on Policy position
3.) Bill Draft
4.) Bill introduction

If we don't want to see bills that will increase of H1s to 200K with zero increase in green card, then we have to go in remind lawmakers for the right policy. The alternative is that we will be stuck with bills like SKILLS Visa Act like H.R.2161.

pd052011
02-10-2014, 12:56 PM
Has IV conducted an assessment of what were the results from past advocacy events and what can be done to improve the advocacy? I have attended the event last year but felt that we just got lip service from the legislators.

I appreciate the role of IV and the dedication. Its just superb the way they handle these events. I am just not sure our troubles are being understood/empathized with on the hill. My 2 cents.

greyhair
02-10-2014, 04:26 PM
I am just not sure our troubles are being understood/empathized with on the hill. My 2 cents.

Maybe we have not done our share in showing up in larger numbers as many time as needed to highlight our issues. As someone else has written earlier on this forum, most of us are "keyboard tigers" and like doing online petitions that have zero value. And undocumented have been out in the open without fear. "Educated" folks from India tend to believe that participation in advocacy is beneath them. I have spoken to a few of my friends waiting in backlogs and they think advocacy is for illiterate people. Nothing could be further than truth because most people involved in advocacy are extremely educated and smart (if not smarter).

Lets each one of ask ourselves - honestly, how many times have you gone to meetings in Washington DC or in your home State? I've seen so many folks making weird excuses including not wanting to miss daily pooja at local temple or not missing friend's son's birthday. We are good at making and finding excuses for not doing our share, and then asking others why lawmakers don't understand our troubles.

Simple answer is - we, each one of us, have not done enough of our share. And the proof is, we are where we started.

pd052011
02-10-2014, 05:47 PM
Maybe we have not done our share in showing up in larger numbers as many time as needed to highlight our issues. As someone else has written earlier on this forum, most of us are "keyboard tigers" and like doing online petitions that have zero value. And undocumented have been out in the open without fear. "Educated" folks from India tend to believe that participation in advocacy is beneath them. I have spoken to a few of my friends waiting in backlogs and they think advocacy is for illiterate people. Nothing could be further than truth because most people involved in advocacy are extremely educated and smart (if not smarter).

Lets each one of ask ourselves - honestly, how many times have you gone to meetings in Washington DC or in your home State? I've seen so many folks making weird excuses including not wanting to miss daily pooja at local temple or not missing friend's son's birthday. We are good at making and finding excuses for not doing our share, and then asking others why lawmakers don't understand our troubles.

Simple answer is - we, each one of us, have not done enough of our share. And the proof is, we are where we started.

Even though I partially agree with what you mentioned, I also tend to believe that the general perception is we are all H1Bs. Until we get that image corrected, that we are not talking about H1B issues, we will never get heard.

Also, hi-tech workers are not believed to be "suffering" as much as low-wage workers. Our troubles are not considered the same as someone who lives paycheck to paycheck (more than likely at minimum wage). And the uphill task of convincing Congress that we are not taking jobs away from Americans.

We also lack the fire in our bellies to do anything (advocacy, outreach etc). The moment someone leads, there are 100s to discredit that person and end the momentum. And that's our biggest problem.

greyhair
02-10-2014, 10:50 PM
Even though I partially agree with what you mentioned, I also tend to believe that the general perception is we are all H1Bs. Until we get that image corrected, that we are not talking about H1B issues, we will never get heard.

Also, hi-tech workers are not believed to be "suffering" as much as low-wage workers. Our troubles are not considered the same as someone who lives paycheck to paycheck (more than likely at minimum wage). And the uphill task of convincing Congress that we are not taking jobs away from Americans.

We also lack the fire in our bellies to do anything (advocacy, outreach etc). The moment someone leads, there are 100s to discredit that person and end the momentum. And that's our biggest problem.

Probably someone already figured this out and came up with a solution. Be the change you want to see in the world - this is what he said. Individual freedom couldn't mean much without individual responsibility. We can only be responsible for ourselves and the only person we can change is us. If we do so, my guess is we will be just fine. Which is why I will be at the advocacy events traveling from CA.

sage2006
02-12-2014, 02:49 AM
As you would have noticed during your previous grass-roots lobbying, it can be a very enjoyable but at the same time an experience that tests our patience. During my first advocacy event several years back there were probably 5% of staffers and congressional offices who knew anything about green cards. Almost every office I visited assumed I was there to ask for an increase in H1B numbers. However I must tell you that this % has significantly grown and the last time in Sep-2013, almost 80% of the offices knew about EB GCs (even if some took time to grasp the nuances...they eventually got it). Several of these meetings "seem" very superfluous but the effect of your meeting them if far more than we imagine it to be. Every meeting has a domino effect...staffers talk to each other, get asked to write internal papers, sometimes they get pinged by their bosses about talking points on high-skilled immigration and on several instances they end up pinging the IV members who met them. IV Core follows up with key offices and we always get very positive feedback about the meetings and they are impressed with the professional manner in which our members present our material and talking points. Our idea is always to leave them with an overview of our issue and grab their attention by demonstrating how grass-roots folks like us are impacted enough by the green card issue making us travel from across the country to DC. I have seen staffers remember us almost a year after we last met them...the reason being they meet hundreds of lobbyists every month but the number of grass-roots constituents they meet can be counted on fingertips.
Follow-up to the meetings is very key to making the offices we meet continue to stay engaged and enlightened. As you would have heard during our previous meetings...follow up is paramount and those members who have really followed up have contributed to getting provisions in bills, co-sponsors for legislation and having their lawmakers becoming the champions for our cause. It is a task that requires persistence and patience.

However, part of what you point out is true and that is the very reason we keep going back to DC. The reason being we do not want the offices to merely learn and be aware of our issue...but to actually argue in favor of it when push comes to shove and key bills are being negotiated. And that is why our repeated reminders and meetings are crucial. If our GC provisions are at the periphery, there is every danger of them being left out. The biggest issue right now is the huge increase in H1Bs in every House proposal without proportional relief for GC backlogs. We do not have to have a sob story like other groups...since our message about innovation, entrepreneurship and the fact that most of us have spent one-third of our lives in an uncertainbacklog queue, has definitely struck a chord which is why we have got this far as a grass-roots group.

There is no perfect formula or approach to getting a bill passed. If there were, lobbyists would be out of a job. However there is definitely a right and honest formula, and that is what we, as honest professionals and constituents, are trying to pursue by means of these well organized and large-scale lobby days. And we cannot do it without all your help.

Watch out for our newsletter which will have some interesting viewpoints.

Even though I partially agree with what you mentioned, I also tend to believe that the general perception is we are all H1Bs. Until we get that image corrected, that we are not talking about H1B issues, we will never get heard.

Also, hi-tech workers are not believed to be "suffering" as much as low-wage workers. Our troubles are not considered the same as someone who lives paycheck to paycheck (more than likely at minimum wage). And the uphill task of convincing Congress that we are not taking jobs away from Americans.

We also lack the fire in our bellies to do anything (advocacy, outreach etc). The moment someone leads, there are 100s to discredit that person and end the momentum. And that's our biggest problem.

sage2006
02-12-2014, 03:03 AM
Your point is well taken grey hair. I think we all share your frustration.
You give an interesting analogy..the fact is every era has its share of social issues some of which are just carried forward by their own momentum.

Immigration policy however is an issue which has always been pushed in all possible directions by the politics involved. The net effect is it has stayed exactly where it was 20 years back. All we can do is be honest and do what we can do TOGETHER in getting our issues resolved. I am not sure trying to replicate the reasoning of some other social issue will help us. Immigration is not a civil rights issue..period. The US is among the most welcoming of nations when it comes to immigrants and the authorities involved have done their best within the limits of the existing laws and administrative rules. However the problem is laws have not kept pace with the times and are severely outdated. And that is what we are trying to change...specifically with respect to high-skilled immigration/Green cards.


sage/Mr. Moderator,

Could I please ask you respectfully. Why do you keep doing these grass-roots lobby events? I've attended a few in the past myself and I plan to attend this one too. Would it not be more prudent to consider change in the strategy as follows.

As an individual, I am a big supporter of individual freedom. When I landed in this country this is one of the reasons that fascinated me. Therefore, by inclination of my believes, even though I am not LGBT, not there there is anything wrong with it, I have always supported LGBT rights. Individual rights in pursuit of happiness out-weigh any belief system of others in the society, including religious beliefs. Its that simple.

That being said, why the hell every news media and every lawmakers only talks about LGBT 99.99% of the time, as if there is no other issue. As one of those in the supporting camp for the rights of LGBT, even I am frustrated by the repetition of the same talk points by media, Obama administration and by those in Congress. If you listen to media or Attorney General or Members of Congress, you will believe that the only thing wrong with this world is LGBT don't have same rights #appalling.

If this is going to be as it has been, why do these grass-roots lobby events? Because the truth is - no one cares if we say that 700K Indian immigrants are being exploited. But maybe it might help if we just all change to be LGBT. Then we will be able to go to these meetings and proudly say that green card backlogs is persecution of 700K "LGBT" Indians. Then give it 2 months and you will have a permanent solution to employment based green card backlogs.

I am sorry Mr. Moderator, but there is no other way in sight.

Peace

The Alchemist
02-14-2014, 03:16 PM
Dear Friends,

By now all of you have had the chance to review the latest visa bulletin issued by the Department of state this past week. Looking at the priority dates gives us a feeling of déjà vu lately and we are sure you feel the same way. In June of 2012 the EB2 India date retrogressed to being unavailable. While EB3 India reached September of 2002 in the same month the minimal crawl forward was nothing to write home about. Since then, barring a few months last year when some spillover visas became available, the dates are essentially stuck at almost a decade ago. While the dates for EB2 China are better, they remain well behind EB3 China thus making mockery of the supposed logic of this immigration system. We have tried watching the visa bulletins and waiting, praying, cursing and sometimes just silently agonizing over the situation and none of it has helped our cause.

Over these last few years many of us have been actively organizing and advocating for immigration reform as you already know. Given the political battles on Capitol Hill, this has been an uphill climb at every step. Still, we have had notable success in creating serious credibility for ourselves on this issue and fighting our way to a seat at the adult table where immigration reform will live or die this year.

Many of those who go to DC on a regular basis and lobby their lawmakers at home have Green Cards in hand already. Despite that, we consider this cause important enough that we have kept participating and contributing. If we have to win though, this is not enough.

This year, the Republicans in the House have finally come around to the cause of immigration reform (https://www.facebook.com/ImmigrationVoice/posts/661868027212758). This is a momentous change and the chances of something moving are higher than they have been in a very long time. It’s up to us though to seize the moment. The current proposals are inadequate for us, they don’t provide increased Green Card numbers and don’t address the backlog, in fact they threaten to make it worse. If we want our problems to be addressed meaningfully, we have to stand up for ourselves now. A few of us working on this will not succeed. We need you to join us in DC this March for an advocacy event. While we need you there, you need it as much and more because you owe it to yourself and to your family to step up and make yourself heard.

This will be an experience you will not forget. We will not only meet lawmakers and their staff, but also visit the White House. Not only will you help solve your immigration problems, you will grow in every way, personal and professional. So join us…you will not regret it. The details are below. The first step is to register so we can help you with logistics in DC. Use this opportunity to be a part of the immigration reform process.



Register TODAY (http://register.immigrationvoice.org/) for IV's advocacy event in Washington D.C. to be held from March 1st to 4th, 2014, and ensure our voices are heard loud and clear
Contribute (http://donations.immigrationvoice.org/) to IV and help us not only assist other willing members to come to DC but also cover the expenses of organizing such a large-scale event to influence the policy
And you can also donate airline miles / hotel reward points (http://rewards.immigrationvoice.org/)


We look forward to seeing you in Washington D.C. from March 1st to 4th, 2014.

Thank you,
IV Core Team

rupen
02-14-2014, 11:48 PM
Has IV conducted an assessment of what were the results from past advocacy events and what can be done to improve the advocacy? I have attended the event last year but felt that we just got lip service from the legislators.

I appreciate the role of IV and the dedication. Its just superb the way they handle these events. I am just not sure our troubles are being understood/empathized with on the hill. My 2 cents.

There was a recent nfap report published which mainly talked about how current undocumented people can get green card through existing channels. At the end of the report, it advocated for the green card provisions that we are asking about. Although not many people paid attention to that part, that analysis has been used in many media articles. When we do these events and talk to people, that's how people start talking about our points and it ends up getting published in some analysis which then becomes starting point for a bill. Without these lobby events, this would not be possible. We do not have powerful lobby to lobby for us. Until we get that, we have to do this our self.

GCTorture
02-19-2014, 03:42 PM
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200 USD.

rupen
02-27-2014, 09:14 PM
Even though it may seem like nothing is going on, some things are going on in background. Those who are still waiting on the sideline, there is still time left to register for the event and doing something about our cause.

Boehner: 'Healthy' talk with Obama on immigration reform - Washington Times (http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/27/boehner-healthy-talk-obama-immigration-reform/)

gc_rip
02-28-2014, 06:36 PM
Unfortunately could not join in person this time. But here is a small donation for the cause.
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 7ST91225V57176746.

greyhair
02-28-2014, 08:51 PM
Even though it may seem like nothing is going on, some things are going on in background. Those who are still waiting on the sideline, there is still time left to register for the event and doing something about our cause.

Boehner: 'Healthy' talk with Obama on immigration reform - Washington Times (http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/27/boehner-healthy-talk-obama-immigration-reform/)

What difference does it make? I will be at the advocacy event, but I am getting more and more frustrated by this LGBT thing. And this comes from a supporter of LGBT issue.

Started CNN just now, for introduction of subjects he will cover today, Anderson Cooper spends 8 seconds on Russia invading Ukraine, but over 40 seconds on Jason Collins playing NBA game.

How is sexual orientation of NBA player more important than dangerously escalating situation between States with nuclear weapons? Why do anyone has to see or know what NBA player does in bed behind the close doors in private? Why is this news? And why is exploitation of 700,000 Indians not news?

Until now I was supporter of LGBT issue. I am starting to be pissed by the amount of attention given to this non-issue. If this trend continues I will start opposing LGBT issue starting posting messages on the website of every Member of Congress and Senator.

rupen
02-28-2014, 09:42 PM
What difference does it make? I will be at the advocacy event, but I am getting more and more frustrated by this LGBT thing. And this comes from a supporter of LGBT issue.

Started CNN just now, for introduction of subjects he will cover today, Anderson Cooper spends 8 seconds on Russia invading Ukraine, but over 40 seconds on Jason Collins playing NBA game.

How is sexual orientation of NBA player more important than dangerously escalating situation between States with nuclear weapons? Why do anyone has to see or know what NBA player does in bed behind the close doors in private? Why is this news? And why is exploitation of 700,000 Indians not news?

Until now I was supporter of LGBT issue. I am starting to be pissed by the amount of attention given to this non-issue. If this trend continues I will start opposing LGBT issue starting posting messages on the website of every Member of Congress and Senator.

We should only pick fights which we can win and which are beneficial to us. This may sound like selfish thing but that's what this world is about. It is not about what is fair. It is about who has more power/influence. The only reason that immigration reform is talked about is because of 11m undocumented people. Is it fair to us ? Definitely not. Is our cause held hostage to other reasons like undocumented which has nothing to do with us? Sure. But those questions do not mean anything because that's what current reality is and that's how it is going to be. When we can not change that reality, we should try to do best under given circumstances.

jetflyer
03-02-2014, 11:07 PM
What difference does it make? I will be at the advocacy event, but I am getting more and more frustrated by this LGBT thing. And this comes from a supporter of LGBT issue.

Started CNN just now, for introduction of subjects he will cover today, Anderson Cooper spends 8 seconds on Russia invading Ukraine, but over 40 seconds on Jason Collins playing NBA game.

How is sexual orientation of NBA player more important than dangerously escalating situation between States with nuclear weapons? Why do anyone has to see or know what NBA player does in bed behind the close doors in private? Why is this news? And why is exploitation of 700,000 Indians not news?

Until now I was supporter of LGBT issue. I am starting to be pissed by the amount of attention given to this non-issue. If this trend continues I will start opposing LGBT issue starting posting messages on the website of every Member of Congress and Senator.

if somehow we can add our issue with LGBT, we will have better chance.

just a suggetion.

jet

metroparknj
03-03-2014, 02:01 PM
Could not make it this time, but here's a small contribution.
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 8FF79443HX8405435

GCTorture
03-07-2014, 02:01 PM
Pappu and IV Admins,
I appreciate if you can share some of the outcomes of Advocacy event last week in DC. I am eager to know if there is anything going to happen that would change our lives !!!

Please,
thank you.

pritesh80
03-07-2014, 09:37 PM
Can you please update us on the outcome of the advocacy event?

greyhair
03-07-2014, 09:53 PM
Can you please update us on the outcome of the advocacy event?

Members of Congress told me that pritesh80 will get green card in 2023. This is the outcome of advocacy event.

No one can provide you advocacy event updates over open internet. You have to experience it if you want to know. Why don't you come over next time. I will buy beer.

pritesh80
03-07-2014, 10:00 PM
Members of Congress told me that pritesh80 will get green card in 2023. This is the outcome of advocacy event.

No one can provide you advocacy event updates over open internet. You have to experience it if you want to know. Why don't you come over next time. I will buy beer.
I do my bit of calling senators whenever I can....and this is no way to convince anyone to come anyway....is this how this forum runs or are you just one bad apple? just because you contribute a few bucks and went for a few events does not make you a superstar of this cause...so why don't you get off your high horse and actually go out and buy yourself a beer

greyhair
03-07-2014, 11:03 PM
I do my bit of calling senators whenever I can....and this is no way to convince anyone to come anyway....is this how this forum runs or are you just one bad apple? just because you contribute a few bucks and went for a few events does not make you a superstar of this cause...so why don't you get off your high horse and actually go out and buy yourself a beer

No one is convince you to do anything. You can go %^&* yourself for all I care. For the record, you are not doing me a favor by calling senators. I don't give a damn for what you do or who you are. I am the good apple around here because I actually do what I say. Yes, traveling 1000 miles away from home & spending over $1000 of my money does make me a superstar and I am proud of it. You can try taunting me when you do more than just presenting to do "your bit", which is nothing. On Friday evening, I am already drinking beer and having a good time after a long week of work and advocacy event. Too bad you will never know what happened at the event.

greyhair
03-07-2014, 11:05 PM
And for the record, Members of Congress did say that pritesh80 will get green card in 2023

jetflyer
03-07-2014, 11:22 PM
And for the record, Members of Congress did say that pritesh80 will get green card in 2023

from LGBT quota with you?

pritesh80
03-07-2014, 11:24 PM
No one is convince you to do anything. You can go %^&* yourself for all I care. For the record, you are not doing me a favor by calling senators. I don't give a damn for what you do or who you are. I am the good apple around here because I actually do what I say. Yes, traveling 1000 miles away from home & spending over $1000 of my money does make me a superstar and I am proud of it. You can try taunting me when you do more than just presenting to do "your bit", which is nothing. On Friday evening, I am already drinking beer and having a good time after a long week of work and advocacy event. Too bad you will never know what happened at the event.
Oh man....I am so sad I won't know the "secret" of the advocacy event.
With i***ts like you going to DC, I can understand why our cause is not moving anywhere. Maybe you should become the real 'supertar' of this cause by NOT going to DC. Please do all of us a favor.

For everyone else who went to DC, I appreciate a lot what you guys do. Please don't sit on high a horse like Mr. GreyHair here. This is a very big deal for a lot of us waiting for our GC's and we need good and humble leaders to represent us.

greyhair
03-07-2014, 11:31 PM
from LGBT quota with you?

This date is after applying LGBT reserved quota specially for pritesh80

hfourvisa
03-08-2014, 06:57 AM
Lol