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Administrator2
03-07-2013, 10:42 AM
CIR is brewing up. There will be lot of media coverage/articles on immigration. Please post link to CIR related media articles in this thread.

sunny2007
03-07-2013, 12:13 PM
Democrats' Dilemma on High-Skilled Immigration Reform - Nextgov.com (http://www.nextgov.com/cio-briefing/2013/03/democrats-dilemma-high-skilled-immigration-reform/61731/?oref=ng-dropdown)

abcdgc
03-07-2013, 05:16 PM
CIR is going to be very tough

WSJ Interview: McCain Says Visa Overhaul Key Hurdle in Immigration Talks - Washington Wire - WSJ (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/03/06/mccain-visa-overhaul-key-hurdle-in-immigration-talks/)

looivy
03-07-2013, 06:00 PM
5 Reasons Immigration Reform Might Actually Pass | TPMDC (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/03/5-reasons-immigration-reform-looks-like-it-might-actually-pass.php)

Desertfox
03-07-2013, 08:18 PM
W.H. seeks tech's help on immigration - Michelle Quinn - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/wh-seeks-techs-help-on-immigration-88539.html)

indiantexan
03-07-2013, 08:51 PM
Chuck Schumer Nixes Piecemeal Plan for Immigration Reform – Forward.com (http://forward.com/articles/172333/chuck-schumer-nixes-piecemeal-plan-for-immigration/)


Senator Charles Schumer, a member of a bipartisan group crafting comprehensive U.S. immigration reform, urged technology firms on Tuesday to stop lobbying for a standalone bill on high-skilled immigrants, saying such narrow legislation would not pass.

starscream
03-08-2013, 09:20 AM
DEMOCRATS' DILEMMA ON HIGH-SKILLED IMMIGRATION REFORM
Democrats' Dilemma on High-Skilled Immigration Reform - Nextgov.com (http://www.nextgov.com/cio-briefing/2013/03/democrats-dilemma-high-skilled-immigration-reform/61731/?oref=ng-dropdown)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/us/politics/trying-to-revive-talks-obama-goes-around-gop-leaders.html?_r=1&
Since the weekend, the president has called at least a half-dozen Republican lawmakers, mostly senators, in a bid to revive talks toward a long-term deficit-reduction agreement and to press for action on other issues, including immigration, gun safety and climate measures.

Obama Invites Paul Ryan to Lunch at the White House - NYTimes.com (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/obama-continues-congressional-outreach-with-white-house-lunch/)
Mr. Obama’s two-hour dinner with Republican senators at the Jefferson Hotel in Washington on Wednesday apparently covered more subjects than the budget, including immigration and gun safety legislation – two of the president’s other second-term priorities.

unluckydude
03-09-2013, 09:10 AM
W.H. seeks tech's help on immigration - Michelle Quinn - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/wh-seeks-techs-help-on-immigration-88539.html)

indiantexan
03-09-2013, 09:21 AM
Washington (CNN) – President Barack Obama emphasized the need to get immigration reform accomplished this year in a meeting with a diverse group of faith leaders at the White House on Friday.

Religious leaders that attended the meeting said the president spent more than an hour with them, and after making a few remarks at the top of the meeting he let each group discuss their priorities and problems with comprehensive immigration reform. During the discussion, these faith leaders said, Obama made it clear that he wanted to see a bill on immigration reform in the next 60 days.

Obama pushes expedited timetable on immigration reform in meeting with faith leaders – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs (http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/08/obama-pushes-expedited-timetable-on-immigration-reform-in-meeting-with-faith-leaders/)

snthampi
03-09-2013, 04:34 PM
Isn't this outrageous?
Birth tourists flocking to US for instant citizenship - Video on NBCNews.com (http://www.nbcnews.com/video/rock-center/51110608/#51110608)

These are the people who put legal immigrants in bad light.

bibliophile2020
03-09-2013, 05:05 PM
Senators hush-hush as they craft immigration bill - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/senators-hush-hush-craft-immigration-bill-180020574--election.html)

Senators have indicated some consensus on elements related to border security and the path to citizenship. They are struggling on the question of legal immigration and future workers, and are trading proposals with leaders of the AFL-CIO and Chamber of Commerce to try to get a deal.

Oh what a pity.

indiantexan
03-09-2013, 11:52 PM
White House Said to Expect Immigration Plan in April

White House Said to Expect Immigration Plan in April - Bloomberg (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-08/white-house-said-to-expect-immigration-plan-in-april.html)

Flyingcrow
03-10-2013, 02:00 PM
As we know, its worse than the e curve depicted. For example an eb2 applied in Jan 2011 shows around 60 months, while in reality it would be around 7-8 years, looking at the inventory and rates of porting up.
So simply put, the real picture is worse than what the graph potrays.

ILW.COM - the immigration portal: Green Card Tracker - India (http://www.ilw.com/govttimes/GreenCardTrackerIndia.shtm)

shortduck
03-11-2013, 12:16 PM
A breakthrough on immigration reform? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/03/11/a-breakthrough-on-immigration-reform/)

Flyingcrow
03-11-2013, 12:43 PM
A breakthrough on immigration reform? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/03/11/a-breakthrough-on-immigration-reform/)

Its weird people just write up an article with the buzz words Immigration, White house leak, Presidents own plan, and others with almost no new information.

If you read it through, there is absolutely no news in it. Immigration has become the new #apple for increasing page hits!

Flyingcrow
03-12-2013, 06:40 PM
Quite positive message...

McCain 'confident' Gang of 8 will agree on immigration bill - Video on NBCNews.com (http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/51152698/)

Flyingcrow
03-12-2013, 06:56 PM
Quite positive message...

McCain 'confident' Gang of 8 will agree on immigration bill - Video on NBCNews.com (http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/51152698/)

Forgot to add, nothing about high skilled in the speech.

snthampi
03-13-2013, 12:02 AM
Forgot to add, nothing about high skilled in the speech.

Helping the skilled legal immigrants is not going to buy them many votes. So, hope for the best.

pappu
03-13-2013, 07:15 AM
Forgot to add, nothing about high skilled in the speech.

This is a very common comment on forums whenever someone reads an article related to immigration. People start asking why there is nothing about high skilled in it. But people who come for advocacy days in DC and do a full one day training session before the event will never ask this question because they start to grasp the politics of the issue and they see it first hand talking with lawmaker offices what the other side thinks. It is very difficult to explain on the forums without personally experiencing it.

Immigration issue is very complex and huge. Not every article will contain something about high skilled immigration. And when you say high skilled what exactly do you mean? Do you mean H1B issue or greencard backlog issue or STEM issue or Startup Visa or some thing else? And has anyone contacted the reporters to write about it? How many of us interview and regularly contact reporters in our region whenever there is a big immigration event or bill happening. The other organizations with full time staff have media cell and resources to spend on media outreach. They have people ready to come on national tv and participate at a moment notice. We really can't do that with shoestring budgets and lack of time. So whatever exposure we get is more than good enough.

There have been many media opportunities we have passed because we did not get people to come forward and speak to media when we started a thread. To give an example just last week we had an opportunity to have one person go and testify in a hearing and talk about the problem being faced with family being apart due to visa issues. We posted on our Facebook page hoping that everyone is on it by now and they will share the post with their friends to quickly find people suffering due to age out issue or F2A visa issue. A couple of people responded and we selected one person with a story to tell. The person backed out when asked to go to DC and stand up for his cause. He wanted IV to speak. We told him it is his cause and he needs to speak for himself instead of posting on forums and complaining.

So you see why we do not get much media coverage, admin fixes and bills. It is not just about votes. it is far more than that. the real reason is how important we think our issue is and what we are ready to do for it. Once we start looking beyond our personal priority date, category and continue to work together despite getting greencard thinking that our goal is to fix the problem and not just get our greencard we will succeed. But if we waste time tracking, talking about EB1C, stop porting, EB2 vs EB3, racial fights between ROW vs Indians, Andhra vs rest of india etc we will not succeed. The only people to succeed will be forum owners whose websites will attract more traffic, lawyers who will make money from pending applications, employers who benefit from employees stuck and unable to take promotions, raises and jump jobs to grow. Immigrants who are the end beneficiaries will continue to fail because of their own fault. They themselves are to be blamed for the mess they are in.

Flyingcrow
03-13-2013, 08:56 AM
Pappu, while I completely agree with you, I will briefly explain why I made that mention.

I posted it because in general the message is positive, but the video deals only with the undocumented side, so wanted to let the readers in advance, so that after watching the video for 10 mins, they will not come back to bite me, that there is nothing in for them. I used the word hi-skilled to refer to everything else that is not about issues related to the undocumented.

Flyingcrow
03-13-2013, 04:05 PM
Not related to immigration, still..

The SKILLS Act (http://majorityleader.gov/makinglifework/skillsact/)

unluckydude
03-14-2013, 05:04 PM
Senate immigration bill may limit family visas - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/senate-immigration-bill-may-limit-family-visas-164529594.html)

indiantexan
03-14-2013, 06:49 PM
Senators aim to reach bipartisan immigration deal next week

Reuters) - Eight senators aim to cap months of talks next week with a comprehensive deal to overhaul the U.S. immigration system, a member of the bipartisan group said on Thursday.

Senators aim to reach bipartisan immigration deal next week | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/14/us-usa-congress-immigration-idUSBRE92D1B120130314)

waitingnwaiting
03-14-2013, 06:57 PM
Senate immigration bill may limit family visas - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/senate-immigration-bill-may-limit-family-visas-164529594.html)

Every second person with a low skill or high skill job in developing countries wants to come to USA. Every second family member from developing countries who has even one family member in USA want to USA. This is mostly true for developed countries too. The only exception are people with good business, lot of property, excellent careers or family issues who are unable to come to USA. The question is how much can USA accommodate? We cannot be asking unlimited STEM visas and unlimited chain migration of family members. Both extremes of being restrictionist or too liberal is bad. Lawmakers need to do what is good for the country. If they agree to everyone lobbying, CIR will fail. Failing of CIR is bad for the country if the country does not deal with undocumented and porus borders. It is a national security issue not just immigration issue.

Flyingcrow
03-14-2013, 08:40 PM
Senators aim to reach bipartisan immigration deal next week

Reuters) - Eight senators aim to cap months of talks next week with a comprehensive deal to overhaul the U.S. immigration system, a member of the bipartisan group said on Thursday.

Senators aim to reach bipartisan immigration deal next week | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/14/us-usa-congress-immigration-idUSBRE92D1B120130314)

In my opinion, they should release the contents of the bill, only once they are back from the recess. Two weeks of outcry by anti reform groups, without anybody to defend or explains from the lawmakers side would be disastrous in my opinion.

Murthy
03-15-2013, 03:38 PM
UPDATE 1-Bipartisan U.S. immigration reform bill takes shape in House | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/15/usa-immigration-congress-idUSL1N0C7AKZ20130315?feedType=RSS&feedName=marketsNews&rpc=43)



CIR is brewing up. There will be lot of media coverage/articles on immigration. Please post link to CIR related media articles in this thread.

gcharry
03-15-2013, 04:51 PM
I wish all the best to the IV members, volunteers and organizers who are going to attend the Advocacy day. Regardless of the outcome, you will be Heroes!

pani_6
03-18-2013, 12:48 AM
Immigration-law.com is a good and reliable source..they say 2013 cir no go.,..pretty dissapointing...:mad:

pappu
03-18-2013, 09:21 AM
We sent out an important , our white house meeting update this morning to everyone via newsletter. If you have not subscribed or have not received it , please subscribe now. We will be sending more updates as we make progress.

Details to subscribe are at IV Newsletter Links - Immigration Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=3094747)

Flyingcrow
03-18-2013, 02:25 PM
Google - Sundar Pichai heads Chrome and now Android Dept.

BS People: Sundar Pichai | Business Standard (http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/bs-people-sundar-pichai-113031800676_1.html)

unluckydude
03-18-2013, 02:55 PM
Legal immigration has plummeted over that last 150 years (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/03/17/legal-immigration-has-plummeted-over-that-last-150-years/?wprss=rss_ezra-klein)

unluckydude
03-18-2013, 02:58 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/18/us/politics/senate-groups-immigration-plan-would-alter-waiting-periods.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Murthy
03-18-2013, 06:58 PM
GOP rolls out roadmap amid party divisions - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/gop-rolls-roadmap-amid-party-divisions-213058189--election.html)

amitskumar
03-19-2013, 08:36 PM
Senate group considers large cut in family visas as part of immigration deal - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-group-considers-large-reduction-in-family-visas-as-part-of-immigration-deal/2013/03/14/90252aae-8be8-11e2-9f54-f3fdd70acad2_story.html)

tracka
03-19-2013, 10:16 PM
Self-Deportation Advocate Jeff Sessions Attacks Tom Perez Over Immigration Reform — Immigration Reform | America's Voice (http://americasvoiceonline.org/blog/self-deportation-advocate-jeff-sessions-attacks-tom-perez-over-immigration-reform/)

sunny2007
03-20-2013, 04:10 AM
GOP senators: Slow immigration reform, bring negotiations out from behind closed doors - First Read (http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/19/17375565-gop-senators-slow-immigration-reform-bring-negotiations-out-from-behind-closed-doors?lite)

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

sunny2007
03-20-2013, 04:51 AM
Key GOP senators seek immigration reform slowdown | WashingtonExaminer.com (http://washingtonexaminer.com/key-gop-senators-seek-immigration-reform-slowdown/article/2524818)

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

CKR
03-21-2013, 02:28 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/22/us/broad-support-for-path-to-citizenship-poll-finds.html?_r=0

pattangi
03-21-2013, 02:49 PM
Every second person with a low skill or high skill job in developing countries wants to come to USA. Every second family member from developing countries who has even one family member in USA want to USA. This is mostly true for developed countries too. The only exception are people with good business, lot of property, excellent careers or family issues who are unable to come to USA. The question is how much can USA accommodate? We cannot be asking unlimited STEM visas and unlimited chain migration of family members. Both extremes of being restrictionist or too liberal is bad. Lawmakers need to do what is good for the country. If they agree to everyone lobbying, CIR will fail. Failing of CIR is bad for the country if the country does not deal with undocumented and porous borders. It is a national security issue not just immigration issue.

Yes..Yes. CIR will fail...because the background talks between illegals and GOVT is not promising....they want citizenship fast track...but people are against it. If 11million are granted citizenship in another 10 years, they are going to suck up Medicare and SS which are already in trouble. I think Senate will not approve CIR. If they approve it is going to be bad for the country in the long run. I think they will come up with a guest worker program which allows them to stay as long as they want and no path to citizenship.

Also, they cannot hurry this matter before even they secure the borders. It is going to take some time....not this year.

Our GC thing should speed up....and by doing so they get cheap labors. They will increase H1 quota and GCs and bring down the cost of the labor drastically. Unfortunately, our salaries will go down...but we will have GC in hand soon. They will increase the supply of skilled workers thereby reducing the salaries....win win.

greyhair
03-21-2013, 09:05 PM
Anti immigrant troll alert


Yes..Yes. CIR will fail...because the background talks between illegals and GOVT is not promising....they want citizenship fast track...but people are against it. If 11million are granted citizenship in another 10 years, they are going to suck up Medicare and SS which are already in trouble. I think Senate will not approve CIR. If they approve it is going to be bad for the country in the long run. I think they will come up with a guest worker program which allows them to stay as long as they want and no path to citizenship.

Also, they cannot hurry this matter before even they secure the borders. It is going to take some time....not this year.

Our GC thing should speed up....and by doing so they get cheap labors. They will increase H1 quota and GCs and bring down the cost of the labor drastically. Unfortunately, our salaries will go down...but we will have GC in hand soon. They will increase the supply of skilled workers thereby reducing the salaries....win win.

unluckydude
03-21-2013, 09:06 PM
Senate Gang of 8 close on immigration deal (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/senate-gang-8-finalizing-immigration-deal)

indiantexan
03-21-2013, 10:33 PM
Senate Gang of 8 close on immigration deal (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20130321/us-immigration/?utm_hp_ref=green&ir=green)

The bill will be lengthy and cover numerous other thorny issues, including mandating a currently voluntary program called E-Verify that helps businesses check their workers' papers, as much as doubling visas that go to high-tech workers, and limiting family-based immigration to put a greater emphasis on skills and employment ties instead.

sunny2007
03-21-2013, 11:38 PM
Senate Gang of 8 close on immigration deal (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20130321/us-immigration/?utm_hp_ref=green&ir=green)

The bill will be lengthy and cover numerous other thorny issues, including mandating a currently voluntary program called E-Verify that helps businesses check their workers' papers, as much as doubling visas that go to high-tech workers, and limiting family-based immigration to put a greater emphasis on skills and employment ties instead.
CIR is junk for us unless they do something about the existing backlogs in Green Card process.

Flyingcrow
03-22-2013, 01:27 PM
A bait and switch on immigration reform (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/03/22/a-bait-and-switch-on-immigration-reform/)

imh1b
03-22-2013, 01:45 PM
CIR is junk for us unless they do something about the existing backlogs in Green Card process.

Why do you say that?

Have you read any past CIR bills? Which one did not have something about existing backlogs?

Where in existing bill discussion or news report it is said that CIR will NOT have anything for existing backlogs in Green Card process.

Only a fool will write what you have written without thinking first. The anonymity of the forums has saved you from being one in front of everyone.

Flyingcrow
03-22-2013, 03:43 PM
Business And Labor Fight War Of Words As Immigration Deal Nears | TPMDC (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/03/business-and-labor-fight-war-of-words-as-immigration-deal-nears.php?m=1)

sunny2007
03-22-2013, 03:45 PM
Why do you say that?

Have you read any past CIR bills? Which one did not have something about existing backlogs?

Where in existing bill discussion or news report it is said that CIR will NOT have anything for existing backlogs in Green Card process.

Only a fool will write what you have written without thinking first. The anonymity of the forums has saved you from being one in front of everyone.
you are a fool not me. OP was excited about increasing H1 and talking about stem and I told him that CIR is junk , unless they reduce the backlog for people who are struck in backlog.

groyne
03-22-2013, 05:29 PM
Down to the wire

Immigration Talks Hit Snag Over Business and Labor Concerns - NYTimes.com (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/22/immigration-talks-hit-snag-over-business-and-labor-concerns/?hp)

looivy
03-22-2013, 07:05 PM
Down to the wire

Immigration Talks Hit Snag Over Business and Labor Concerns - NYTimes.com (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/22/immigration-talks-hit-snag-over-business-and-labor-concerns/?hp)

Isn't Grassley asking for the same thing that labor unions are demanding? Are republicans stonewalling other repubs?

Murthy
03-22-2013, 11:25 PM
U.S. immigration reform talks stalled by wage disputes | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/23/usa-immigration-congress-idUSL1N0CEEJQ20130323?feedType=RSS&feedName=nonCyclicalConsumerGoodsSector&rpc=43)
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

imh1b
03-23-2013, 08:49 AM
you are a fool not me. OP was excited about increasing H1 and talking about stem and I told him that CIR is junk , unless they reduce the backlog for people who are struck in backlog.

Will you please explain why STEM will NOT reduce backlog? Do not post without thinking again. Post your intelligent arguments. Posting CIR is junk kind of message is foolish, unless you prove otherwise.

sunny2007
03-23-2013, 03:10 PM
Vice President Biden Calls for Immigration Reform at the Irish America Hall of Fame | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/03/22/vice-president-biden-calls-immigration-reform-irish-america-hall-fame)

sunny2007
03-23-2013, 03:19 PM
Will you please explain why STEM will NOT reduce backlog? Do not post without thinking again. Post your intelligent arguments. Posting CIR is junk kind of message is foolish, unless you prove otherwise. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You are the one who lack manners , dumbo.

greyhair
03-23-2013, 04:15 PM
When will press stop looking at immigration from the lens of "non-immigrant visas"

Plan to Hike H-1B Cap to 300,000 Seen Dead; 130,000 Cap Still Possible - CIO.com (http://www.cio.com/article/730629/Plan_to_Hike_H_1B_Cap_to_300_000_Seen_Dead_130_000 _Cap_Still_Possible)

The good thing is, there CIR has restrictions on outsourcing companies. According to this article, the new bill will create slabs for filing H1s at 30%, 50% and 70%. If the percentage of employees on H1 increase, visa file fee visas will also increase.

fartoolong
03-23-2013, 10:06 PM
Does anyone have insight as to what this amendment to the Senate budget means?

Lee amendment to establish a deficit-neutral reserve fund to increase the pool of highly skilled workers in the United States by removing per-country limits. (#253)

Here’s the insanely long list of amendments filed to the Senate budget (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/03/23/heres-the-insanely-long-list-of-amendments-filed-to-the-senate-budget/)

greyhair
03-24-2013, 02:48 AM
Bipartisan group of senators close to deal on immigration plan – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/22/bipartisan-senators-close-to-deal-on-immigration-plan/)

Deal is close on immigration bill in the Senate

raktims
03-24-2013, 08:09 AM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You are the one who lack manners , dumbo.

'sunny'2007 your name doesn't do you justice to you. You don't seem to be bright at all ..ha ha ha ..

sunny2007
03-24-2013, 06:41 PM
'sunny'2007 your name doesn't do you justice to you. You don't seem to be bright at all ..ha ha ha ..I know how bright you are. Have a life ?

greyhair
03-25-2013, 10:56 AM
Nine nations challenging the United States for start-up supremacy - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/on-small-business/nine-nations-challenging-the-united-states-for-start-up-supremacy/2013/03/22/3507d600-9172-11e2-9cfd-36d6c9b5d7ad_gallery.html?tid=pm_business_gal#phot o=1)

arun_ramani
03-25-2013, 12:22 PM
Senate passes budget bill that includes removing country caps. #253
Here’s the insanely long list of amendments filed to the Senate budget (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/03/23/heres-the-insanely-long-list-of-amendments-filed-to-the-senate-budget/)

Flyingcrow
03-25-2013, 12:26 PM
Senate passes budget bill that includes removing country caps. #253
Here’s the insanely long list of amendments filed to the Senate budget (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/03/23/heres-the-insanely-long-list-of-amendments-filed-to-the-senate-budget/)


Arun Ramanai, please note the catch -"with the ones that were actually voted on in bold."

Flyingcrow
03-25-2013, 12:49 PM
Obama calls for 'political courage' on immigration reform - First Read (http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/25/17457059-obama-calls-for-political-courage-on-immigration-reform?lite)

shortduck
03-25-2013, 01:09 PM
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Forming Group to Push Immigration Reform | Fox News Latino (http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2013/03/25/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-forming-group-to-push-immigration-reform/)

somberi
03-25-2013, 01:52 PM
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Forming Group to Push Immigration Reform | Fox News Latino (http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2013/03/25/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-forming-group-to-push-immigration-reform/)

dang! did we forget to send him a friend request? :)

CKR
03-26-2013, 08:25 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/us/politics/organizing-for-action-group-joins-immigration-fray.html

sunny2007
03-26-2013, 04:33 PM
John McCain: I refuse to stop saying ‘illegal’ immigrant — MSNBC (http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/03/26/john-mccain-i-refuse-to-stop-saying-illegal-immigrant/)

McCain acknowledged during the town hall meeting that “I don’t know if we can achieve agreement or not,” adding “We’ve been working literally night and day. And we may not succeed. But the other members of this negotiating team, I believe, are negotiating in good faith. We’ve made progress in a number of areas that I am encouraged by, but there are still areas we are not in agreement.”

I have a question : Which line the so called illegals or undocumented will stand ? Do they need to stand behind Family based or Employment based line or will there be a new McCain's Line :) If EB3-I has a wait time of 70 years max , others will wait for 13 years ? Can our Ramanujan s' do the math ?

spicy_guy
03-26-2013, 04:40 PM
John McCain: I refuse to stop saying ‘illegal’ immigrant — MSNBC (http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/03/26/john-mccain-i-refuse-to-stop-saying-illegal-immigrant/)

McCain acknowledged during the town hall meeting that “I don’t know if we can achieve agreement or not,” adding “We’ve been working literally night and day. And we may not succeed. But the other members of this negotiating team, I believe, are negotiating in good faith. We’ve made progress in a number of areas that I am encouraged by, but there are still areas we are not in agreement.”

I have a question : Which line the so called illegals or undocumented will stand ? Do they need to stand behind Family based or Employment based line or will there be a new McCain's Line :) If EB3-I has a wait time of 70 years max , others will wait for 13 years ? Can our Ramanujan s' do the math ?

Or Rajanikanth's style... their own royal highway Line. :cool:

fartoolong
03-26-2013, 05:03 PM
High-Skilled Immigration Reform: What Does The Future Hold? (http://www.metrocorpcounsel.com/articles/22953/high-skilled-immigration-reform-what-does-future-hold)

tracka
03-27-2013, 01:20 PM
Immigration Reform: Are Obama & AFL-CIO Bosses Using ‘Poison Pills’ To Kill Latinos’ Dreams Again? | RedState (http://www.redstate.com/2013/03/26/immigration-reform-are-obama-afl-cio-bosses-using-poison-pills-to-kill-latinos-dreams-again/)

3 Reasons Why an Immigration Reform Timeline Matters - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/Politics/reasons-immigration-reform-timeline-matters/story?id=18822563#.UVMq7jeQgnM)

indiantexan
03-27-2013, 07:07 PM
Immigration Reform: Obama Expects Bill in April - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/immigration-reform-obama-expects-bill-april/story?id=18825428#.UVN7uTdFaQo)

Tech Executives: Immigration Reform a Top Priority - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/garyshapiro/2013/03/27/tech-executives-immigration-reform-a-top-priority/)

starscream
03-28-2013, 10:04 AM
Immigration talks back on track, union says - Carrie Budoff Brown - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/immigration-talks-back-on-track-union-says-89398.html?hp=r3)

sengs
03-28-2013, 10:41 PM
Comprehensive Immigration Reform: a Moral and Economic Imperative (http://social.dol.gov/blog/comprehensive-immigration-reform-a-moral-and-economic-imperative/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

sunny2007
03-28-2013, 11:52 PM
Organized labor says closer to deal on immigration reform | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/28/usa-immigration-wages-idUSL2N0CK1VX20130328)

chtummala
03-29-2013, 12:22 PM
Senate passes budget bill that includes removing country caps. #253
Here’s the insanely long list of amendments filed to the Senate budget (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/03/23/heres-the-insanely-long-list-of-amendments-filed-to-the-senate-budget/)

hmm it is not included .

sunny2007
03-29-2013, 06:40 PM
Sessions to Leahy: Don’t Rush Immigration Reform (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/sessions-leahy-immigration-reform/2013/03/28/id/496793)

sengs
03-29-2013, 11:14 PM
Immigration negotiations head closer to deal - Carrie Budoff Brown and Anna Palmer - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/immigration-negotiations-head-closer-to-deal-89486.html?hp=f1)

mgmanoj
03-30-2013, 01:39 PM
Business, labor close on deal for immigration bill (http://news.yahoo.com/business-labor-close-deal-immigration-bill-185315130.html)

sunny2007
03-30-2013, 03:29 PM
Immigration Reform: Business, Labor Get Deal On Worker Program, Source Says (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/30/immigration-reform_n_2985521.html)

Out of 200 k even if 100 k apply for GC.....I'm wondering what will be the wait time for EB Gc ? Will it increase to 100 years ? or will they bump up EB GC to say 250 k per year ?

How will numbers guys react ? Will they over flood the phone lines / fax machines as usual ? ?:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

greyhair
03-31-2013, 10:57 AM
Immigration reform through the eyes of cartoonists (http://www.newsday.com/opinion/immigration-reform-through-the-eyes-of-cartoonists-1.4574487#1)

sunny2007
03-31-2013, 06:31 PM
‘Group of 8’ senators say immigration reform efforts on track after key deal between labor, business groups - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/group-8-senators-immigration-reform-efforts-track-article-1.1303880)

Keep your fingers crossed until final bill is introduced.

I have a bad feeling about Rubio though,just my hunch.

hkoy77
04-01-2013, 01:55 PM
please let me know if any people from Arizona, we will plan to meet senator

spicy_guy
04-01-2013, 02:37 PM
Immigration Reform for Thanksgiving - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/04/immigration-reform-for-thanksgiving/)

alien23
04-01-2013, 02:57 PM
Please consider signing up for this mass social media campaign using the link below.

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Below is the tweet that will be posted on a certain date :

#iMarch for Innovation. Tell Congress we need smart #immigration reform. Attract & keep talent in USA March for Innovation (http://thndr.it/Y2R5LJ)

sunny2007
04-01-2013, 07:02 PM
Inhofe pledges no filibuster of possible immigration deal - The Hill's Video (http://thehill.com/video/senate/291297-inhofe-despite-concern-with-citizenship-path-no-filibuster-of-immigration-bill)

One good senator who expresses concern about legals.

sdeshpan
04-02-2013, 10:13 AM
Interesting piece:
Rubio isn’t immigration reform’s only potential saboteur - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/2013/04/02/rubio_isnt_immigration_reforms_only_potential_sabo teur/)

Flyingcrow
04-02-2013, 11:14 AM
Rubio Slows Down Immigration Debate (http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/04/02/rubio_slows_down_immigration_debate.html?utm_sourc e=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PoliticalWire+%28Political+Wi re%29)

Flyingcrow
04-02-2013, 11:18 AM
WH request to post one's immigration story

http://links.whitehouse.gov/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkPTIwMTMwMzI2LjE3MTA2NDYxJ m1lc3NhZ2VpZD1NREItUFJELUJVTC0yMDEzMDMyNi4xNzEwNjQ 2MSZkYXRhYmFzZWlkPTEwMDEmc2VyaWFsPTE2Nzg0NDM4JmVtY WlsaWQ9YXR0YS5hcHVAZ21haWwuY29tJnVzZXJpZD1hdHRhLmF wdUBnbWFpbC5jb20mZmw9JmV4dHJhPU11bHRpdmFyaWF0ZUlkP SYmJg==&&&100&&&http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/immigration/stories?utm_source=immigrationemail&utm_medium=text1&utm_campaign=immigration

Flyingcrow
04-02-2013, 02:43 PM
Judcial Chair Leah's Response to Rubio's mail. Fitting I would say.

READ: Sen Judiciary Chair Leahy’s letter to Sen Rubio about committee’s process for immigration reform legislation | @DavidLeopold (http://davidleopold.net/2013/04/02/read-sen-judiciary-chair-leahys-letter-to-sen-rubio-about-committees-process-for-immigration-reform-legislation/)

alien23
04-02-2013, 05:13 PM
Found this link that lets you send automated letters to the President, Senators and Congressmen in support of I-d act. Please take a few minutes to sign this.



Thanks!

Flyingcrow
04-04-2013, 10:22 AM
Senate and House immigration reform plans: Who goes first? (http://nbclatino.com/2013/04/03/senate-and-house-immigration-reform-plans-who-goes-first/)

kishorda
04-04-2013, 10:47 AM
5 Things You Need to Know About the Immigration Agreement (http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/Political-Action-Legislation/5-Things-You-Need-to-Know-About-the-Immigration-Agreement)

Funny that high skilled immigrants cant self petition!!!!!!!

greyhair
04-04-2013, 07:53 PM
5 Things You Need to Know About the Immigration Agreement (http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/Political-Action-Legislation/5-Things-You-Need-to-Know-About-the-Immigration-Agreement)

Funny that high skilled immigrants cant self petition!!!!!!!

I think that large technology companies, you know who, OS vendors, search engine companies, consulting companies and chamber of commerce, employer associations are all against self petition for skilled immigrants. I believe that employers want slave labor where employee is stuck with the employer for year after year.

AFL-CIO represent low skilled workers. So AFL-CIO stood up and negotiated this deal. There is no union or association of US citizens representing high skilled workers. I hear IEEE is there but it seems that they are not working for its members or skilled immigrants. Or else, there would have been similar agreement on the skilled workers and H1B visa.

eastindia
04-04-2013, 09:15 PM
5 Things You Need to Know About the Immigration Agreement (http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/Political-Action-Legislation/5-Things-You-Need-to-Know-About-the-Immigration-Agreement)

Funny that high skilled immigrants cant self petition!!!!!!!

It is not funny. It is sad. What can we do so employers and lawyers are lobbying for self petition option for us?

kishorda
04-05-2013, 09:50 AM
Its funny because its beyond logic. Again its just a news item but if something like this is really in the proposed bill then we IVian's should also push for the self petitioning.

Murthy
04-06-2013, 09:57 AM
All About Immigration: Green Cards? Citizenship? (http://news.yahoo.com/immigration-green-cards-citizenship-121809309.html)

sunny2007
04-07-2013, 03:17 PM
This bill is heading for a fiasco. Now Sen Rubio says add merit based immigration. Senator Graham says wait for another 2 weeks as Rubio wants to add some poison pill.

Demos will not agree for it and end of story before even introducing it.

All EB3-I folks please try to port asap before they demolish existing lines :confused:

immigrant2007
04-07-2013, 05:46 PM
Whom is skill based immigration to benefit now?
BTW DEMS should thank Marco Rubio for handling 2014 HOUSE elections.

This bill is heading for a fiasco. Now Sen Rubio says add merit based immigration. Senator Graham says wait for another 2 weeks as Rubio wants to add some poison pill.

Demos will not agree for it and end of story before even introducing it.

All EB3-I folks please try to port asap before they demolish existing lines :confused:

gk_2000
04-07-2013, 10:57 PM
Immigration bill expected this week, senators say | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/07/us-usa-immigration-idUSBRE93607C20130407)

krupa
04-08-2013, 12:40 AM
New York Times news:
Rubio, Amid Planning, Is Yet to Commit on Immigration Bill

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/06/us/politics/rubio-amid-planning-is-yet-to-commit-on-immigration-bill.html?ref=politics&_r=0

krupa
04-09-2013, 12:57 AM
Representatives of farmworkers and growers inched closer to a deal on wages for workers, under pressure from a bipartisan group of senators who want to move forward soon with a broad immigration overhaul.

New York Times Reports:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/09/us/politics/senate-negotiations-on-farmworker-program-inch-forward.html?ref=politics&_r=0

sunny2007
04-09-2013, 05:35 PM
Gang of Eight aiming to unveil immigration reform bill Thursday - The Hill (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/292679-senators-aiming-to-unveil-immigration-reform-bill-by-thursday)

Flyingcrow
04-09-2013, 06:01 PM
Finally! Senate’s Gang of Eight to announce immigration deal - Mike Allen - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/senates-gang-of-eight-immigration-deal-89832.html)

Svee
04-10-2013, 12:43 PM
TODAY: 200 Immigrant Families from Wisconsin to Travel to Washington for National Immigration Reform March | Common Dreams (http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2013/04/09-6)

sunny2007
04-10-2013, 02:16 PM
Leahy: Hearing on comprehensive immigration reform set for April 17 - First Read (http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/10/17689511-leahy-hearing-on-comprehensive-immigration-reform-set-for-april-17?lite)

hello
04-10-2013, 02:59 PM
Live Video - C-SPAN3 | C-SPAN (http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN3/)

Suva
04-10-2013, 03:26 PM
Just wanted to let IV know that there would be a Senate Hearing on Comprehensive Immigration Reform Legislation on Apr 17.

View a Hearing or Meeting (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/hearing.cfm?id=3453280c7b001bfa7ddd84aeeb215221)

Thanks

Svee
04-10-2013, 04:11 PM
Live Video - C-SPAN3 | C-SPAN (http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN3/)


Video shows lots of crowd..... Nice to see so much support & energy.
Wish we had similar crowd for the legal immigrants too.:)

Flyingcrow
04-11-2013, 10:32 AM
Deepa Iyer: We Are Not Newcomers or Bystanders: Asian Americans and the Struggle for Immigration Reform (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepa-iyer/asian-americans-immigration-reform_b_3051950.html)

jindhal
04-11-2013, 01:56 PM
Mark Zuckerberg: Immigrants are the key to a knowledge economy - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mark-zuckerberg-immigrants-are-the-key-to-a-knowledge-economy/2013/04/10/aba05554-a20b-11e2-82bc-511538ae90a4_story.html)

Flyingcrow
04-11-2013, 03:31 PM
Example how people can skew reality, and there would be truck load of people believing him blindly, without digging any further!

FAIR President's Anti-Immigration Reform Op-Ed Gets Almost Everything Wrong | Blog | Media Matters for America (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/04/11/fair-presidents-anti-immigration-reform-op-ed-g/193590)

Flyingcrow
04-11-2013, 05:11 PM
Muriel Howard: Why Comprehensive Immigration Reform Is a Must for Higher Ed (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/muriel-howard/why-comprehensive-immigra_1_b_3053241.html)

Flyingcrow
04-11-2013, 05:18 PM
To get green cards, these immigrants must prove they are extraordinary - U.S. News (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/01/17551995-to-get-green-cards-these-immigrants-must-prove-they-are-extraordinary)

wallmiki
04-11-2013, 08:58 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/12/us/politics/house-democrats-present-immigration-overhaul-plan.html?_r=0

sumum
04-11-2013, 09:20 PM
Guys IV doing great job and I hope people are contributing and not just wasting time putting remarks and speculating .

Bottomline so called High Skilled Immigration should not be of any issue even if you are opening business or creating jobs or doing mundane work .

Nobody but desis do this since nobody in US of real intellect want to do that mundane job of IT janitorial, upkeep and cleaning systems up .

So 99.99 % of high skilled job is same as the mexican guys job profile since nobody wants to do that job too ,picking berries,vegetables,slaughtering animals etc .

So I do not see why so called high skill immigration should be a issue even if you creating jobs or doing the low profile mexican sweep of high profile businesses.;)

Flyingcrow
04-12-2013, 12:18 PM
Volunteer with FWD - FWD.us (http://www.fwd.us/volunteer)

krupa
04-14-2013, 03:22 PM
Triggers vital for path to citizenship, Rubio says

CNN Link:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/14/triggers-vital-for-path-to-citizenship-rubio-says/?iref=allsearch

jetflyer
04-14-2013, 04:55 PM
Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy: Senate Bill to be Introduced on Tuesday (http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2013/04/senate-bill-to-be-introduced-on-tuesday.html)

zanyguy
04-15-2013, 01:40 PM
An interesting story of a founder who is still on H1B:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/12/technology/tech-firms-push-to-hire-more-workers-from-abroad.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Couple of interesting case studies:
To get green cards, these immigrants must prove they are extraordinary - U.S. News (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/11/17551995-to-get-green-cards-these-immigrants-must-prove-they-are-extraordinary?lite)

Economist coverage of startups founded by immigrants:
Immigration and America’s high-tech industry: The jobs machine | The Economist (http://www.economist.com/news/business/21576101-start-ups-founded-immigrants-are-creating-jobs-all-over-america-jobs-machine)

amulchandra
04-15-2013, 04:23 PM
I saw this news about exemption of dependents from GC quota

Immigration bill boosts green cards for foreign employees | The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/15/immigration-bill-boosts-green-cards-for-foreign-employees/)

The nation’s current immigration law allocates a green card not only to each incoming employee, employee’s spouse and their young children. The new law would expand the number of employee Green Cards by exempting several categories of immigrants from the 140,000 annual cap, including the spouses and children of new green card recipients.

imh1b
04-15-2013, 04:27 PM
An interesting story of a founder who is still on H1B:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/12/technology/tech-firms-push-to-hire-more-workers-from-abroad.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Couple of interesting case studies:
To get green cards, these immigrants must prove they are extraordinary - U.S. News (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/11/17551995-to-get-green-cards-these-immigrants-must-prove-they-are-extraordinary?lite)

Economist coverage of startups founded by immigrants:
Immigration and America’s high-tech industry: The jobs machine | The Economist (http://www.economist.com/news/business/21576101-start-ups-founded-immigrants-are-creating-jobs-all-over-america-jobs-machine)

These advocates are making a big blunder due to these bad strategy stories in media. Firstly it is incorrect to compare extraordinary talent with H1B. Both are a class apart. Extraordinary folks can get greencard within 6 months and it is extremely easy process if someone has good credentials. If these extraordinary folks want a temporary visa they do not need to go through H1B route. There is an unlimited quota of O-1 visa.

The second problem is interviewing a researcher and having narrating a hardship in trying to get extraordinary visa. If someone is not extraordinary talented, they will obviously face hardship. The article defeats the purpose and goes into a territory that is difficult to defend. Lawyers can file extraordinary visa easily for these people and get greencard in 6 months. There is no problem really for such folks.

What media should touch is the real problem. It is people who do not have patents, research papers , awards and Ph.D. These are people who are working in all kinds of top, mid and low tier small companies and supporting their growth. They are important piece in the success of companies and they should not be ignored. Long wait times cause exploitation, and lower wages that hurt America. Either abolish H1B visa and EB2, EB3 etc or if you want to invite such people, better administer them and provide a reasonable wait time.

imh1b
04-15-2013, 04:34 PM
One of the article says--
"Waiting and worrying
While Miss Universe can land a green card in a matter of weeks, this Golden Pasties winner had to wait more than a year and a half because her lawyer left her birth certificate out of the application and the adjudication officer kept sending requests for more evidence. “I was a wreck, thinking at any minute they’re going to tell me you have to leave the country," she said. "It’s so hard to live your life that way. What do I do if I get kicked out? If I go back to Canada, I’ll have to get a desk job.” After $10,000 in legal fees, May got her ego-boosting green card in August."

So how is this a US government problem? If you hired a sloppy lawyer and paid a whopping 10K it is your problem? Putting such statements in media damages your own cause Madam!

karthikforever
04-15-2013, 10:26 PM
Hi All. I was wondering how CIR might impact typical body shopping companies and their employees. Specifically companies and their employees who are part of the Client>Vendor>Employer>Employee model of functioning. Are provisions expected in CIR that might have a negative or positive effect on such companies and their employees?

gk_2000
04-16-2013, 01:52 AM
Reality check folks

Smith: Senate Immigration Proposal is Fatally Flawed | Congressman Lamar Smith (http://lamarsmith.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=329102)

Everyone is talking about senate and gang of 8 but the face of trouble looks something like this, and lurks in house

jetflyer
04-16-2013, 07:19 AM
Key provisions expected in immigration legislation proposal - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/senators-immigration-legislation-provisions/)

The WalL
04-16-2013, 09:49 AM
Reality check folks

Smith: Senate Immigration Proposal is Fatally Flawed | Congressman Lamar Smith (http://lamarsmith.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=329102)

Everyone is talking about senate and gang of 8 but the face of trouble looks something like this, and lurks in house

And that is coming from one of the co-sponsors of HR 3012...don't read too much into it. Its trying to give himself wriggle room for negotiating a bit more border security money into the bill.

The WalL
04-16-2013, 09:51 AM
Details of sweeping Senate immigration plan revealed - First Read (http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/16/17768678-details-of-sweeping-senate-immigration-plan-revealed?lite)

A bit more detail on whats in the Senate bill...again, not much for legal immigration other than elimination of DV lottery and diversion of that to EB...raising EB usage to 40% from the current 15% levels.

The WalL
04-16-2013, 09:57 AM
Reuters FACTbox:
Factbox: Major provisions of Senate immigration reform bill | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/16/us-usa-immigration-legislation-idUSBRE93F05120130416)

Most interesting bit for EB folks:
* About 40 percent of employment-based visas would be allocated to professionals with advanced degrees to work in the United States in the sciences, arts and other professions, including certain people with foreign medical degrees. Those holding graduate degrees in engineering, mathematics, science and technology from U.S. universities also would be included.

pd052011
04-16-2013, 10:08 AM
Reuters FACTbox:
Factbox: Major provisions of Senate immigration reform bill | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/16/us-usa-immigration-legislation-idUSBRE93F05120130416)

Most interesting bit for EB folks:

I read on Yahoo that it was only PhDs and not Masters.

amulchandra
04-16-2013, 10:13 AM
The following is the link for broader outline.

Outline of the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/136230105/Outline-of-the-Border-Security-Economic-Opportunity-and-Immigration-Modernization-Act-of-2013)

pd052011
04-16-2013, 10:29 AM
The following is the link for broader outline.

Outline of the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/136230105/Outline-of-the-Border-Security-Economic-Opportunity-and-Immigration-Modernization-Act-of-2013)

There is no mention of removal of country caps.

chyoji
04-16-2013, 10:32 AM
Annual numerical limits on employment-based immigrants:
derivative beneficiaries of employment-based immigrants; aliens of extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business or athletics; outstanding professors and researchers; multinational executives and managers; doctoral degree holders in STEM field; and physicians who have completed the foreign residency requirements or have received a waiver.

gvenkat
04-16-2013, 10:49 AM
There is no mention of removal of country caps.

No mention of country caps or visa recapture.

dhiru
04-16-2013, 10:55 AM
Here is the summary to the CIR presented in the Senate -

Scribd (http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/136230105?access_key=key-1x13smc96qgoth11k3k6)

Amig
04-16-2013, 10:58 AM
Yes, it is very disappointing that there is no mention of removal of country caps. I hope, there is some additions to it once other Senators make changes to the proposals.

amulchandra
04-16-2013, 11:11 AM
My gut feeling is that may be it is not explicitly spelled out in the outline but will be
there in the bill language.

gvenkat
04-16-2013, 11:12 AM
My gut feeling is that may be it is not explicitly spelled out in the outline but will be
there in the bill language.

Possible

Suva
04-16-2013, 11:14 AM
I agree. IV has already clarified that these provisions are there. So we need to wait and see.

My gut feeling is that may be it is not explicitly spelled out in the outline but will be
there in the bill language.

pd052011
04-16-2013, 11:18 AM
My gut feeling is that may be it is not explicitly spelled out in the outline but will be
there in the bill language.

Fingers crossed and extremely hopeful that there is some elaboration in the bill.

CKR
04-16-2013, 11:24 AM

On the employment green card categories, the bill exempts the following categories from theannual numerical limits on employment-based immigrants: derivative beneficiaries of employment-based immigrants; aliens of extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business or athletics; outstanding professors and researchers; multinational executives andmanagers; doctoral degree holders in STEM field; and physicians who have completed theforeign residency requirements or have received a waiver.

Does that mean spouses and children would be exempt from Cap numbers??
If that is the case then it is effectively Doubling the exisitng numbers.
If not Please forgive me for the wrong interpretation.

CKR
04-16-2013, 11:31 AM

We will provide spouses of H-1B workers with work authorization if the sending country of the worker provides reciprocal treatment to spouses of U.S. workers.

We will establish a 60-day transition period for H-1B workers to change jobs.

We will provide dual intent visas for all students who come here on bachelor’s degree programs or above.

:D:D:D

ImmiRam
04-16-2013, 11:35 AM
Two paragraphs concerning Legal Immigrants:
"

On the employment green card categories, the bill exempts the following categories from theannual numerical limits on employment-based immigrants: derivative beneficiaries of employment-based immigrants; aliens of extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business or athletics; outstanding professors and researchers; multinational executives andmanagers; doctoral degree holders in STEM field; and physicians who have completed theforeign residency requirements or have received a waiver.

The bill then allocates 40 percent of the worldwide level of employment-based visas to : 1)members of the professions holding advanced degrees or their equivalent whose services aresought in the sciences, arts, professions, or business by an employer in the United States(including certain aliens with foreign medical degrees) and 2) aliens who have earned a master’s degree or higher in a field of science, technology, engineering or mathematics from an accredited U.S. institution of higher education and have an offer of employment in arelated field and the qualifying degree was earned in the five years immediately before the petition was filed."

Basically, IMO:
1) Spouse/children excluded from count in Employment bases GC
2) STEM PhD's excluded from GC cap ( very disappointed to see no Masters)
3) For rest - More and more visas but not much help with GC:(

sengs
04-16-2013, 11:43 AM
I have a PhD in STEM but from India, and I have an approved I-140 NIW. Am I cap exempt, or do I fall under the 40% cap, or are they going to push me to the 2014 merit based system, because I am in the US since 2002.

Outlines are still vague. Need to wait till the entire legislation is published.

Also, I do not see any mention of Country-wise cap, removed or stayed. Looks like the cap will be based on the employment-type and not country-based anymore. Keeping fingers crossed.

rdoib
04-16-2013, 11:44 AM
Bills like this should span across 100 of pages this is just a 30 page summary.

truelies
04-16-2013, 12:02 PM
So nothing good for STEM master? Also H1b needs to pay much higher salary than American? Will we lost our job since I don't think company will pay so much.

Vagabond
04-16-2013, 12:02 PM

We will provide spouses of H-1B workers with work authorization if the sending country of the worker provides reciprocal treatment to spouses of U.S. workers.

We will establish a 60-day transition period for H-1B workers to change jobs.

We will provide dual intent visas for all students who come here on bachelor’s degree programs or above.

:D:D:D

Unfortunately India does not allow dependent of person on work permit to work in India so Indian on H4 may not get work authorization :mad:

imh1b
04-16-2013, 12:06 PM
Basically, IMO:
1) Spouse/children excluded from count in Employment bases GC
2) STEM PhD's excluded from GC cap ( very disappointed to see no Masters)
3) For rest - More and more visas but not much help with GC:(

If they allow all masters STEM to get greencards then people will find loopholes and do 1 year online masters from third class college or join colleges like fraud Tri-valley University and get a degree. Its good they recognize the loophole.

Another loophole to be stopped is banning consulting companies. Consulting companies are the reason for most exploitation and fraud. Everyone here will agree that they are bad companies, so why not ban them? If people are smart and bright they can easily get a job in a US company full time. No more coming to America one way or another trough consulting companies.

imh1b
04-16-2013, 12:09 PM
Interesting on merit based system...

Under one component of this merit based system the Secretary will allocate merit-based immigrant visas beginning on October 1, 2014 for employment-based visas that have been pending for three years, family-based petitions that were filed prior to enactment and have been pending for five years, long-term alien workers and other merit based immigrant workers.

Merit based points should be based on the need in the country. If there is a need of that occupation, then more points. If there is no need then why should they allow people who are not in demand?

rbusgc
04-16-2013, 12:10 PM
Page 10 -Last Paragraph Onwards...


We prevent H-1B workers from undercutting the wages paid to American workers byrequiring employers to pay significantly higher wages for H-1B workers than under currentlaw (and to first advertise the jobs to American workers at this higher wage before hiring anH-1B worker).

We require recruiting of American workers prior to hiring an H-1B nonimmigrant. TheSecretary of Labor must establish a searchable website for posting H1B positions. The sitemust be operational and online within 90 days of the passage of the new law. We requireemployers to post a detailed job opening on the Department of Labor's website for at least 30calendar days before hiring an H1B applicant to fill that position

pd052011
04-16-2013, 12:12 PM
Page 10 -Last Paragraph Onwards...


We prevent H-1B workers from undercutting the wages paid to American workers byrequiring employers to pay significantly higher wages for H-1B workers than under currentlaw (and to first advertise the jobs to American workers at this higher wage before hiring anH-1B worker).

We require recruiting of American workers prior to hiring an H-1B nonimmigrant. TheSecretary of Labor must establish a searchable website for posting H1B positions. The sitemust be operational and online within 90 days of the passage of the new law. We requireemployers to post a detailed job opening on the Department of Labor's website for at least 30calendar days before hiring an H1B applicant to fill that position

Very helpful!! The bill is definitely focusing on reducing employment visa fraud/abuse.

ImmiRam
04-16-2013, 12:13 PM
If they allow all masters STEM to get greencards then people will find loopholes and do 1 year online masters from third class college or join colleges like fraud Tri-valley University and get a degree. Its good they recognize the loophole.
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Fyi, Online maters are not eligible for getting normal OPT, let alone STEM extension. Tri-vallye Uni is unaccredited university, so its degree is not recognized as STEM. Please get your facts right - looks like your only intent was to discredit all STEM masters.

imh1b
04-16-2013, 12:19 PM
Unfortunately India does not allow dependent of person on work permit to work in India so Indian on H4 may not get work authorization :mad:

This is very justified logic for US citizens. If India does not allow dependents to work why should US? Indian H4s now have work to do and contact Indian government to change its rule. It should be easy for them because they are Indian citizens and can vote. So Indian government should help them. Can someone on H4 head this for all H4s and write an email to the Indian government.

pd052011
04-16-2013, 12:21 PM
This is very justified logic for US citizens. If India does not allow dependents to work why should US? Indian H4s now have work to do and contact Indian government to change its rule. It should be easy for them because they are Indian citizens and can vote. So Indian government should help them. Can someone on H4 head this for all H4s and write an email to the Indian government.

No offense to H4s but this makes sense. There are superbly qualified H4s here. I wish there was some relief for them. However, under improved H1B quotas, they can apply for H1 now.

imh1b
04-16-2013, 12:23 PM
Fyi, Online maters are not eligible for getting normal OPT, let alone STEM extension. Tri-vallye Uni is unaccredited university, so its degree is not recognized as STEM. Please get your facts right - looks like your only intent was to discredit all STEM masters.

There are many third class universities around. If the intention is to get a STEM masters its not difficult for a person. My people join these universities because it is easy to get admission and come to USA on F1 visa.

rbusgc
04-16-2013, 12:24 PM
Very helpful!! The bill is definitely focusing on reducing employment visa fraud/abuse.

We crack down on abusers of the H-1B system by requiring “H-1B dependent employers” to pay significantly higher wages and fees than normal users of the program.

If the employer has 50 or more employees, and more than 30% but less than 50% are H-1B or L-1 employees (who do not have a green card petition pending), the employer must pay a $5,000 fee per additional worker in either of these two statuses.

If the employer has 50 or more employees, and more than 50% are H-1B or L-1employees (who do not have a green card petition pending), the employer must pay a$10,000 fee per additional worker in either of these two statuses.

We will also crack down on the use of the H-1B and L visas to outsource American jobs by prohibiting companies whose U.S. workforce largely consists of foreign guest workers from obtaining additional H-1B and L visas.

In Fiscal Year 2014, companies will be banned from bringing in any additional workers if more than 75% of their workers are H-1B or L-1 employees.

In Fiscal Year 2015, the ban applies to companies if more than 65% of their workforceare H-1B and L-1 workers. In Fiscal Year 2016, the ban moves to 50%

We require recruiting of American workers prior to hiring an H-1B nonimmigrant. The Secretary of Labor must establish a searchable website for posting H1B positions. The site must be operational and online within 90 days of the passage of the new law. We require employers to post a detailed job opening on the Department of Labor's website for at least 30calendar days before hiring an H1B applicant to fill that position.

We bar employers from recruiting or giving preference to H-1B or OPT workers over American workers.
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We establish significant new authorities and penalties to prevent, detect, and deter fraud andabuse of the H-1B and L-1 visa systems by fraudulent employers.

ImmiRam
04-16-2013, 12:26 PM
There are many third class universities around. If the intention is to get a STEM masters its not difficult for a person. My people join these universities because it is easy to get admission and come to USA on F1 visa.

By that logic, you can also very easily get PhD from such universities right ? so should they exclude all PhD's too then ?

imh1b
04-16-2013, 12:32 PM
By that logic, you can also very easily get PhD from such universities right ? so should they exclude all PhD's too then ?

You can get masters in 1- 1.5 years. To get Ph.D you need to sacrifice 4-5 years. Is someone is willing to do that? But the thought of 4-5 years will discourage many. You are forgetting that all universities do not have a doctoral program. To have such a program professors need to be funded to do research. Third class universities are all teaching universities.

ImmiRam
04-16-2013, 12:36 PM
To get Ph.D you need to sacrifice 4-5 years. Is someone is willing to do that? Third class universities are all teaching universities. All convenient assumptions to support your point. I would be more interested in data driven discussion.

pd052011
04-16-2013, 12:40 PM
Thanks to IV for the efforts. The bill (hope it passes) is a manifestation of IV's efforts.

milinshah
04-16-2013, 12:50 PM
This is very justified logic for US citizens. If India does not allow dependents to work why should US? Indian H4s now have work to do and contact Indian government to change its rule. It should be easy for them because they are Indian citizens and can vote. So Indian government should help them. Can someone on H4 head this for all H4s and write an email to the Indian government.

This article shows that spouses of Indian Work visa holders are allowed to work.. Although there is some process to follow..

Visa rules eased for spouses of expatriates looking to work in India (http://www.financialexpress.com/news/visa-rules-eased-for-spouses-of-expatriates-looking-to-work-in-india/914519)

The spouse of an expatriate can now work in India and such visas can now be converted in India itself. Similarly, an expatriate may not be required to return to his home country and obtain a new visa in case of inter-company movements.

Conversion of a dependent visa into employment visa of spouse. The spouse of a foreign national is allowed to visit India on a dependent (‘X’) visa. The holder of this visa cannot undertake any business or economic activity or accept any employment in India.

According to a recent change, the spouse of the foreign national who is on secondment to India, can get the dependent visa converted into an employment visa in India on meeting the following conditions: The spouse has a valid employment visa; the spouse satisfies all conditions laid down for grant of employment visa in India; and the application for conversion is supported by a favourable report from jurisdictional Foreigners’ Registration Office.

Visa stamping on change of employer in India. A foreign national is now permitted to change his employer in India if it is approved by the ministry of home affairs (MHA).

The applications may be considered by MHA if the following mentioned conditions are satisfied: The foreign national holds a senior/skilled position in India; the change of employer is between registered holding company and its subsidiaries or vice-versa or subsidiaries of a registered holding company; and the application is supported by a certificate of holding/subsidiary relationship, a justification letter, and a no-objection certificate, etc.

zanyguy
04-16-2013, 12:52 PM
Thanks to IV for the efforts. The bill (hope it passes) is a manifestation of IV's efforts.

The song "Jai Ho!" comes to mind! May we all emerge victorious and happier out of this :)

milinshah
04-16-2013, 12:53 PM
One more thing.. Its not clear if they want spouses to get a new visa..

pd052011
04-16-2013, 12:54 PM
This article shows that spouses of Indian Work visa holders are allowed to work.. Although there is some process to follow..

Visa rules eased for spouses of expatriates looking to work in India (http://www.financialexpress.com/news/visa-rules-eased-for-spouses-of-expatriates-looking-to-work-in-india/914519)

The spouse of an expatriate can now work in India and such visas can now be converted in India itself. Similarly, an expatriate may not be required to return to his home country and obtain a new visa in case of inter-company movements.

Conversion of a dependent visa into employment visa of spouse. The spouse of a foreign national is allowed to visit India on a dependent (‘X’) visa. The holder of this visa cannot undertake any business or economic activity or accept any employment in India.

According to a recent change, the spouse of the foreign national who is on secondment to India, can get the dependent visa converted into an employment visa in India on meeting the following conditions: The spouse has a valid employment visa; the spouse satisfies all conditions laid down for grant of employment visa in India; and the application for conversion is supported by a favourable report from jurisdictional Foreigners’ Registration Office.

Visa stamping on change of employer in India. A foreign national is now permitted to change his employer in India if it is approved by the ministry of home affairs (MHA).

The applications may be considered by MHA if the following mentioned conditions are satisfied: The foreign national holds a senior/skilled position in India; the change of employer is between registered holding company and its subsidiaries or vice-versa or subsidiaries of a registered holding company; and the application is supported by a certificate of holding/subsidiary relationship, a justification letter, and a no-objection certificate, etc.

This is just like converting H4 to H1.

milinshah
04-16-2013, 12:57 PM
I think you are correct.

Vagabond
04-16-2013, 01:38 PM
This article shows that spouses of Indian Work visa holders are allowed to work.. Although there is some process to follow..

Visa rules eased for spouses of expatriates looking to work in India (http://www.financialexpress.com/news/visa-rules-eased-for-spouses-of-expatriates-looking-to-work-in-india/914519)

The spouse of an expatriate can now work in India and such visas can now be converted in India itself. Similarly, an expatriate may not be required to return to his home country and obtain a new visa in case of inter-company movements.

Conversion of a dependent visa into employment visa of spouse. The spouse of a foreign national is allowed to visit India on a dependent (‘X’) visa. The holder of this visa cannot undertake any business or economic activity or accept any employment in India.

According to a recent change, the spouse of the foreign national who is on secondment to India, can get the dependent visa converted into an employment visa in India on meeting the following conditions: The spouse has a valid employment visa; the spouse satisfies all conditions laid down for grant of employment visa in India; and the application for conversion is supported by a favourable report from jurisdictional Foreigners’ Registration Office.

Visa stamping on change of employer in India. A foreign national is now permitted to change his employer in India if it is approved by the ministry of home affairs (MHA).

The applications may be considered by MHA if the following mentioned conditions are satisfied: The foreign national holds a senior/skilled position in India; the change of employer is between registered holding company and its subsidiaries or vice-versa or subsidiaries of a registered holding company; and the application is supported by a certificate of holding/subsidiary relationship, a justification letter, and a no-objection certificate, etc.

that is great !! but still dependent do not get work permit automatically in India but have to apply for separate type of visa.. i guess its now upto interpretation of individual:confused:

CKR
04-16-2013, 01:41 PM
Unfortunately India does not allow dependent of person on work permit to work in India so Indian on H4 may not get work authorization :mad:

officer,
Visa rules eased for spouses of expatriates looking to work in India (http://www.financialexpress.com/news/visa-rules-eased-for-spouses-of-expatriates-looking-to-work-in-india/914519)

Dont know what "Expatriates" means!!

greyhair
04-16-2013, 01:47 PM
Can I a question? What is the most reliable immigration super website of Oh say? Oh wait, rather than copying pasting from another news media site, now he has started posting links to another news media site. Sweet!!!! at least now we will not have to read broken grammar English in his (copied) articles

sixburgh
04-16-2013, 01:53 PM
Summmary has been introduced:
Sorry if this is a duplicate link

Greg Siskind on Immigration Law and Policy: The Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 (http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2013/04/the-border-security-economic-opportunity-and-immigration-modernization-act-of-2013.html)


Summary of Border Security, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/152781293/Summary-of-Border-Security-Economic-Opportunity-and-Immigration-Modernization-Act-of-2013)

greyhair
04-16-2013, 02:04 PM
??????

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/3094904-immigration-reform-bill-expected-on-16th-april.html#post3570561

manishs7
04-16-2013, 02:04 PM
I guess nothing matters as first bullet point under Legal Immigration says:

The bill eliminates backlog for family and employment based immigrants.

gumpena
04-16-2013, 02:06 PM
There is nothing the bill for elimination of country limits.

manishs7
04-16-2013, 02:07 PM
They need to start fresh since there will be so many complications with giving undocumented workers green cards and then citizenship as compared to already present backlogged legal immigrants.

eastindia
04-16-2013, 02:13 PM
There is nothing the bill for elimination of country limits.

It is in administrator2 post on the thread. So it is true and more reliable than any other website and reporter. IV has more information. I saw that in the advocacy day.

GCTorture
04-16-2013, 02:14 PM
Requesting Gurus to comment:
I read the text of CIR, but still have my questions. MY PD is 2004 April, I am just a commerce graduate, but working in US for 10 years now, that too for a top 5 consulting firm as a contractor. Under the merit based system I still wont qualify for GC?

manishs7
04-16-2013, 02:15 PM
They need to start fresh since there will be so many complications with giving undocumented workers green cards and then citizenship as compared to already present backlogged legal immigrants.
The bill gives green card (with some conditions) to undocumented workers after 10 years and for Dream act status and Agriculture status after five years.
I have already lived 10 years and with EB3-India it will take next 15-20 years to clear the backlog. This is a clear case of discrimination.
I think they have to clear the current legal immigrants backlog.

eastindia
04-16-2013, 02:16 PM
??????

No CIR can pass without elimination of country limits. All thanks to IV that this country cap is so much well known now.

sengs
04-16-2013, 02:18 PM
People like most of us from India and China who have approved I-140s, I do not understand how are they going to accommodate us? Do we have to apply fresh for one of the newer categories, cap exempt or not? Still very grey. I doubt how many EB-2/EB-3 employers will spend money for fresh application. Also everything will depend how USCIS will interpret the law, being famous for interpreting the existing law according to their own wish.:rolleyes:

Administrator2
04-16-2013, 02:23 PM
This bill summary posted on lawyer's website/blog etc is an older version of the document. This has been a work-in-process document, changed many times in last 2 months.

We do have the latest version and some of the folks here have seen it. But we have to be responsible in honoring the request from the lawmakers to not make it public before the bill introduction.

Hang-in there, this will be interesting 4-5 months. And we will need all the participation to get this going.

sengs
04-16-2013, 02:25 PM
This bill summary posted on lawyer's website/blog etc is an older version of the document. This has been a work-in-process document, changed many times in last 2 months.

We do have the latest version and some of the folks here have seen it. But we have to be responsible in honoring the request from the lawmakers to not make it public before the bill introduction.

Hang-in there, this will be interesting 4-5 months. And we will need all the participation to get this going.

Excellent. IV. We have full faith in you.:)

mars
04-16-2013, 02:31 PM
Is it mentioned any where HOW it eliminates the backlogs for family based immigrants ?

If i understand correctly Spouses/Unmarried children of PR holders now can apply for V-Visa and enter US and wait here till their dates becomes current ? As per current rules one can file V-Visa if the I-130 is filed before Dec 2000.

If some one has more details reg this could you please elaborate ?

Thanks

deepakd
04-16-2013, 02:43 PM
Outline of the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/136230105/Outline-of-the-Border-Security-Economic-Opportunity-and-Immigration-Modernization-Act-of-2013)

MK1981
04-16-2013, 03:04 PM
Family-Based Immigration Reform:
Repeal EB-4 for brothers and sisters of U.S. citizens 18 months after enactment of CIR.
Current FB-2 for spouses and minor children of permanent residents are merged with the spouses and minor children of U.S. citizen category and they will not be subject immigrant quota. (Biggest Winners in the Family-Based System Reform!!!)
There will be only two categories in the Family Preference Categories:
Unmarried adult children
Married adult children who file before age 31, and unmarried adult children of permanent residents.
Repeal of Diversity Visa Program. Winners of FY 2013 and FY 2014 will receive immigrant status.
Employment-Based Immigration Reform:
Categories Exempt from Annual Numerical Limits:
Derivative beneficiaries (spouses and children) of EB immigants (Thus spouse and chldren of EB immigrants will no longer take out EB visa numbers)
Current EB-1A Extraordinary Workers
Current EB-1B Outstanding Researcher or Teachers
Current EB-1C Multinational Corporate Executives & Managers
STEM Ph.D
Physicians who have completed foreign residency or waiver.
Categories Subject to Annual Numerical Limits:
US STEM Master Degree holders who earned the degree 5 years immediately before petition is filed: 40%
Skilled Worker (current EB-3): 40%
Special Immigrants: 10%
Immigrant Investors: 10%
Special Start-Up Visas for Entrepreuners
Merit-Based Visa System After 5 Years: (Former Point System of Bush CIR)


Source: The Oh Law Firm (http://www.immigration-law.com/Canada.html)

pd052011
04-16-2013, 03:23 PM
Family-Based Immigration Reform:
Repeal EB-4 for brothers and sisters of U.S. citizens 18 months after enactment of CIR.
Current FB-2 for spouses and minor children of permanent residents are merged with the spouses and minor children of U.S. citizen category and they will not be subject immigrant quota. (Biggest Winners in the Family-Based System Reform!!!)
There will be only two categories in the Family Preference Categories:
Unmarried adult children
Married adult children who file before age 31, and unmarried adult children of permanent residents.
Repeal of Diversity Visa Program. Winners of FY 2013 and FY 2014 will receive immigrant status.
Employment-Based Immigration Reform:
Categories Exempt from Annual Numerical Limits:
Derivative beneficiaries (spouses and children) of EB immigants (Thus spouse and chldren of EB immigrants will no longer take out EB visa numbers)
Current EB-1A Extraordinary Workers
Current EB-1B Outstanding Researcher or Teachers
Current EB-1C Multinational Corporate Executives & Managers
STEM Ph.D
Physicians who have completed foreign residency or waiver.
Categories Subject to Annual Numerical Limits:
US STEM Master Degree holders who earned the degree 5 years immediately before petition is filed: 40%
Skilled Worker (current EB-3): 40%
Special Immigrants: 10%
Immigrant Investors: 10%
Special Start-Up Visas for Entrepreuners
Merit-Based Visa System After 5 Years: (Former Point System of Bush CIR)


Source: The Oh Law Firm (http://www.immigration-law.com/Canada.html)
US STEM Master Degree holders who earned the degree 5 years immediately before petition is filed AND Advanced Degree holders whose services are sought by US employer: 40%

keyurpatel80
04-16-2013, 03:34 PM
Are they restructuring the existing EB system from EB1-5 to

1) The bill then allocates 40 percent of the worldwide level of employment-based visas to : 1)
members of the professions holding advanced degrees or their equivalent whose services are sought in the sciences, arts, professions, or business by an employer in the United States

40 %

2) The bill increases the percentage of employment visas for skilled workers, professionals, and other professionals to 40 percent,

40%

3) maintains the percentage of employment visas for certain special immigrants to 10 percent and maintains visas for those who foster employment creation to 10 percent

20%

dhiru
04-16-2013, 03:44 PM
It seems to me that EB system is being re-defined. If we compare it with the existing system the visas available for EB1 are being distributed to EB2 and EB3. The bill doesn't mention anything about the per country limit, which implies that the existing per country limit is removed. Also, the Merit based visas are only effective 5 years after the enactment of the bill (FY - 2018). The drawbacks to the bill as I see are -
a. There is no mention of the increase number of visas available in EB category
b. How are they planning on eliminating the backlog in the next five years

DSLStart
04-16-2013, 04:03 PM
It looks like for illegals the waiting period for applying citizenship (after getting GC) has been reduced to 3 years. (because it says 13 years citizenship path) So as per the report from NYTimes few weeks ago, have to reduced the citizenship eligibility wait period for LEGAL PRs too to 3 years? or no relief there for legal PRs at all?

spicy_guy
04-16-2013, 04:08 PM
It looks like for illegals the waiting period for applying citizenship (after getting GC) has been reduced to 3 years. (because it says 13 years citizenship path) So as per the report from NYTimes few weeks ago, have to reduced the citizenship eligibility wait period for LEGAL PRs too to 3 years? or no relief there for legal PRs at all?

In my opinion, they should consider citizenship based on merits (wait period on 485 due to backlog).

gchungry
04-16-2013, 04:14 PM
It looks like for illegals the waiting period for applying citizenship (after getting GC) has been reduced to 3 years. (because it says 13 years citizenship path) So as per the report from NYTimes few weeks ago, have to reduced the citizenship eligibility wait period for LEGAL PRs too to 3 years? or no relief there for legal PRs at all?

What I have understood from various readings is that, once you have GC, you are Permanent Resident. There is no discrimination how you received your GC as far as applying for citizenship. So 3 years time for application of citizenship applies to any GC holder.

MK1981
04-16-2013, 04:24 PM
OIG Reports: Fiscal Year 2013 (http://www.oig.dhs.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=195&Itemid=187)

truelies
04-16-2013, 04:51 PM
The most unfair is for H1b

Immigrants in RPI status can work for any employer and travel outside of the United States. RPI status shall last for a 6-year term that is renewable if the immigrant does not commit any
acts that would render the alien deportable. Another $500 penalty fee is applicable at this
time.

We prevent H-1B workers from undercutting the wages paid to American workers by
requiring employers to pay significantly higher wages for H-1B workers than under current
law (and to first advertise the jobs to American workers at this higher wage before hiring an
H-1B worker). H1b can only work for current employee and may be refused to enter US if you travel abroad.

mk26
04-16-2013, 04:58 PM
Senators unveil immigration reform bill (http://news.yahoo.com/senators-unveil-bipartisan-immigration-bill-041709888--business.html)

vkrishn
04-16-2013, 05:39 PM
Link to the Bill:-

http://shusterman.com/pdf/immigrationbill2013.pdf

deepakd
04-16-2013, 06:12 PM
The most unfair is for H1b

Immigrants in RPI status can work for any employer and travel outside of the United States. RPI status shall last for a 6-year term that is renewable if the immigrant does not commit any
acts that would render the alien deportable. Another $500 penalty fee is applicable at this
time.

We prevent H-1B workers from undercutting the wages paid to American workers by
requiring employers to pay significantly higher wages for H-1B workers than under current
law (and to first advertise the jobs to American workers at this higher wage before hiring an
H-1B worker). H1b can only work for current employee and may be refused to enter US if you travel abroad.

Looks like legals ki lae lee gayee khol ke :rolleyes:

manohar123
04-16-2013, 06:48 PM
What is good for us:
EB1 is exempt from annual GC numbers
Spouses and Children will be exempt from GC numbers
EB-2,3 Visas pending for 3 years will get merit based visa numbers from 10/1/2014.
H1-B will get 60 days time to find new job


What is bad for us
No removal of country quota
Indian IT companies will get screwed which will eventually be bad for us Indians.
If H1 percentage limit imposed on small employers, then it will hit us hard as they are the ones mostly filing GC's.
Fence jumpers will get EAD in 6 months and they can travel to their country of origin when we are busy getting RFE's from USCIS.

imh1b
04-16-2013, 07:00 PM
What is good for us:
EB1 is exempt from annual GC numbers
Spouses and Children will be exempt from GC numbers
EB-2,3 Visas pending for 3 years will get merit based visa numbers from 10/1/2014.
H1-B will get 60 days time to find new job


What is bad for us
No removal of country quota
Indian IT companies will get screwed which will eventually be bad for us Indians.
If H1 percentage limit imposed on small employers, then it will hit us hard as they are the ones mostly filing GC's.
Fence jumpers will get EAD in 6 months and they can travel to their country of origin when we are busy getting RFE's from USCIS.

Many guys call desi body shops blood suckers. And now when screws are being tightened, people say it is bad?

manohar123
04-16-2013, 07:18 PM
To speak from my experience, I had the opportunity to come to USA only because I was employed in an Indian IT firm. There may be folks who may be able to come to USA in student visa as they could afford the education here or they may have other family connections or they are exceptionally skilled/educated from a premier institute.I no longer work for an Indian IT company, but I'm not an individual who forgets where I came from. You may call Indian IT companies what ever you want, but the fact is they employ lot of fellow Indians back home. :)

open.247
04-16-2013, 07:35 PM
I agree with you manohar123
situation well put in shortest words.

Murthy
04-16-2013, 07:49 PM
No mention of country caps or visa recapture.

Yes it is true.Except mentioning about exempting derivative beneficiaries of employment-based immigrants from annual numerical limits .
Waiting for the detail bill

DSLStart
04-16-2013, 08:08 PM
What I have understood from various readings is that, once you have GC, you are Permanent Resident. There is no discrimination how you received your GC as far as applying for citizenship. So 3 years time for application of citizenship applies to any GC holder.
In that case would the 3 year period get into effect after next 10 years or soon after the bill becomes act?

TeddyKoochu
04-16-2013, 08:58 PM
To speak from my experience, I had the opportunity to come to USA only because I was employed in an Indian IT firm. There may be folks who may be able to come to USA in student visa as they could afford the education here or they may have other family connections or they are exceptionally skilled/educated from a premier institute.I no longer work for an Indian IT company, but I'm not an individual who forgets where I came from. You may call Indian IT companies what ever you want, but the fact is they employ lot of fellow Indians back home. :)

Great points and extremely well put.

chtummala
04-16-2013, 09:50 PM
Yes it is true.Except mentioning about exempting derivative beneficiaries of employment-based immigrants from annual numerical limits .
Waiting for the detail bill
which point says that..
i dont see it

chtummala
04-16-2013, 09:52 PM
which point says that..
i dont see it
i am sorry i did see it ..

gvenkat
04-16-2013, 11:14 PM
Rubio: Bill Will 'Fundamentally Redefine' Immigration System (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/rubio-immigration-reform-bill/2013/04/16/id/499727)

Please see this :

“In addition to that we’ve gotten rid of the per country quota, one of the things that didn’t make a lot of sense. We should be able to attract the best and brightest in the world irrespective of what country they’re coming from.

“The majority of this bill is about enforcement and about modernization, and I would say 80, 90 percent of this bill is probably not that controversial. The piece that probably is is what we’re doing with those who have violated our immigration laws.”

The devil is in the details probably.

greyhair
04-17-2013, 05:55 AM
Seven things you need to know about the new immigration bill - NBC Politics (http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/16/17783040-seven-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-immigration-bill)

This article breaks it down and explains more than one path that we can take including the new merit based system. Is the new merit based system self petition?

GCTorture
04-17-2013, 07:33 AM
Seven things you need to know about the new immigration bill - NBC Politics (http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/16/17783040-seven-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-immigration-bill)

This article breaks it down and explains more than one path that we can take including the new merit based system. Is the new merit based system self petition?

thank you,an excerpt from the above link:
The new system of merit-based visas has two tracks, a Senate aide explains. Both are based on merit -- but the first considers people who have been in the country for a long time. If you've been waiting in the employment backlog, family backlog or if you’ve been in the country working under a temporary status for 10 years, you'll be eligible for a green card. There’s no point system attached.....

awesome. my gratitude to IV.

jhajee
04-17-2013, 01:02 PM
http://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=b0a97f73-03ff-40a3-9910-45286495cf42

:):)

smitin_2000
04-17-2013, 04:18 PM
Section 2306(a) of the CIR eliminates employment-based per country numberical limitation.

mk6803
04-17-2013, 06:38 PM
While I and we all are optimistic, the devil is in the details with CIS. CIS is notoriously famous for taking the narrowest interpretation of law. Hopefully everybody will bicker on illegal inmigration and legal immigration points will fly. H1B will definitely be an contentious issue for debate

By the way the bill was introduced by Chuck Schumer in Senate after midnight on 16th Apr session. Bill number is S.744 and details are still not out.

Bottom line... DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS !

‘‘(8) INELIGIBILITY OF ALIENS WITH PENDING OR APPROVED PETITIONS.—An alien who has a petition pending or approved in another immigrant category under this section or section 201 may not apply for a merit-based immigrant visa.

(On page 266 for Merit Track 1).

Mirage_GC
04-18-2013, 11:30 AM
Myth-busting - Immigration Reform Facts - U.S. Senator for Florida, Marco Rubio (http://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/myth-busting)

Mirage_GC
04-18-2013, 11:44 AM
“Within Reach: A Roadmap for US Immigration Reform that Respects the Rights of All People" (http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/related_material/2013_US_WithinReachCorrected_5.pdf)

http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/related_material/2013_US_WithinReachCorrected_5.pdf

US: Senate Immigration Plan Important Yet Flawed | Human Rights Watch (http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/04/16/us-senate-immigration-plan-important-yet-flawed)

Mirage_GC
04-18-2013, 12:15 PM
Immigration Reform Tale Of The Tape: Comparing 2013 and 2007 Proposed Laws | Fox News Latino (http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2013/04/18/immigration-reform-tale-tape-comparing-2013-and-2007-proposed-laws/?cmpid=fnl_twitter)

truelies
04-18-2013, 04:12 PM
I heard that STEM don't need to do PERM based on the new CIR. If it's true, this is a big improvement.