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pappu
06-29-2012, 10:10 AM
Pappu,

Will you be able to share next steps in order to push forward for H.R. 3012? Do we know when this bill can be brought into the Senate floor?

Thanks!

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UPDATED WITH DETAILS OF ACTION ITEM[/U][/B]

About H.R-3012 (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/HR_3012_%282011-2012%29)

There are thousands of people stuck in green card backlogs, long wait times, retreogresion but are still not aware of H.R3012 -Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act and the benefits it brings by way of fairness, first-come-first-serve approach due to removal of per country caps.
We have to inform all such people about the bill and about IV grass-roots initiatives which have brought the bill close to the finish line now so they can join in the grass-roots efforts.


1) Print out - (color printouts much preferred) multiple copies of the following fliers

http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/0/05/Needhelp_flier.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/b/b0/Thomachan_flier.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/e/ed/Turvi76_flier1.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/5/55/Turvi76_flier2_updated.pdf

2) Post the fliers - near all grocery stores, temples, theaters and other locations which are frequented by impacted/retrogressed EB applicants who will benefited by this initiative. Use your judgement wisely on where you post the fliers. Please start this weekend and continue through the July 4th weekend.

3) Caution - DO NOT post the fliers on USPS mailboxes, it is against the law.

4) Talk to your friends/acquaintances - Pick up the phone and call your friends, colleagues, acquaintances who are still not aware of this bill. Explain the importance of H.R 3012 - how it brings long-awaited fairness to the system and reduces wait times drastically for retrogressed EB applicants. Explain how the bill was passed overwhelmingly by the House and is very close to being passed by the Senate and signed into law. There is no better tool than talking to someone to make them aware of the importance of this legislation.
Encourage your friends to become members and CONTRIBUTE to IV and help in the advocacy efforts.

5) Forward Flier - Forward soft copies of the flier to your friends, contacts and have them post it at locations in their neighborhood where it will be effective.

6) Like, Comment positively and share our Facebook page and follow us on Twitter. We are also on Google+ now. IV member donquit has been managing this single-handedly, on your behalf and its time to help him spread the message in social media world.

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/#!/Support.HR3012
Twitter - http://twitter.com/Support_HR3012
Google+ - https://plus.google.com/s/immigrationvoice

We are very close to the finish line and are confident that H.R 3012 will be passed by Congress and signed into law very soon. Let us add more grassroots efforts now and be part of this historic legislative initiative. Immigration Voice requires all affected EB green card applicants - waiting for years to get a green card they deserve - to speak up, join this campaign and be counted.

mantagon
06-29-2012, 10:40 AM
...designed like a Movie Poster!

Stuck in the Muck??
Its time to END the LOOOOOONG Green Card Backlog!
COMING SOON to the immigrant community near you!

From the largest grassroots organization of immigrants in the USA, Immigration Voice Proudly Presents:
Bill HR3012
Introducing:
Country Limits Removal the Root Cause of Backlog

Director: Immigration Voice
Producers: Immigrants WHO want CHANGE

Come, join, contribute and be a part of this amazing Journey!!

Please feel free to add/edit and beautify! Thanks!

vsrinir
06-29-2012, 10:40 AM
I am ready to post the posters once ready.

" Praying HR 3012 will be a Stand Alone Bill"

kkm
06-29-2012, 10:44 AM
I am ready to post the posters once ready.

" Praying HR 3012 will be a Stand Alone Bill"

There is a NATA conference in Houston this weekend. I am not going to it but I think it would be a good idea if somebody who is going to it can post the posters at some prominent place there.

Thanks

pappu
06-29-2012, 10:51 AM
...designed like a Movie Poster!

Stuck in the Muck??
It’s time to END the LOOOOOONG Green Card Backlog!
COMING SOON to the immigrant community near you!

From the largest grassroots organization of immigrants in the USA, Immigration Voice Proudly Presents:
Bill HR3012
Introducing:
Country Limits Removal – the Root Cause of Backlog

Director: Immigration Voice
Producers: Immigrants WHO want CHANGE

Come, join, contribute and be a part of this amazing Journey!!

Please feel free to add/edit and beautify! Thanks!

It needs to be serious/sincere attempt to communicate and easy to understand in 2 -5 seconds. That is the attention span.

gc_check
06-29-2012, 10:54 AM
The e U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission in their web site states,
About the EEOC: Overview (http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/)
"The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) is responsible for enforcing federal laws that make it illegal to discriminate against a job applicant or an employee because of the person's race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information"

Which is USCIS discriminating for Employment Based Immigration by introducing a cap based on national origin. Also it is common sense, EB Immigrants can come/get jobs only that are in demand and no sufficient US Citizens / LPR are available to fill. It is high time, the cap be removed.

Folks with creative skills, if you can get this message into the the poster / banner you creating will send a message - this is discrimination !

srij
06-29-2012, 11:04 AM
What about this ?

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After more than 10 years you are still on H-1
Guys who came to USA on the same day as you are CITIZENs

Do you know why ?

Do you know we - you and folks at ImmigrationVoice.org - Home (http://www.Immigrationvoice.org) - can fix it if we work together ?

Its now or never!
---------------

srij
06-29-2012, 11:06 AM
What about this ?

---------------
After more than 10 years you are still on H-1
Guys who came to USA on the same day as you are CITIZENs

Do you know why ? Do you know we - you and folks at ImmigrationVoice.org - Home (http://www.Immigrationvoice.org) - can fix it if we work together ?

Its now or never!
---------------

After more than 10 years you are still on H-1
Guys who came to USA on the same day as you are CITIZENs

Do you know why ? Are you aware of the bill in senate - HR.3012 ?

Do you know we - you and folks at ImmigrationVoice.org - Home (http://www.Immigrationvoice.org) - can fix it if we work together ?

Its now or never!

pappu
06-29-2012, 11:10 AM
Needs to be quick short and simple sentences.

My suggestion:
Headline: No More Greencard wait.

Subhead: Law coming soon.

descriptive Copy no more than 2 sentences about HR3012 and needing the community to join and push the legislation(pls suggest): ......

Call to action text: Visit Immigrationvoice.org today

Tearsheet: Immigrationvoice.org

needhelp!
06-29-2012, 11:41 AM
http://s12.postimage.org/p17xxdc1p/HR2012.jpg

vsrinir
06-29-2012, 11:51 AM
http://s12.postimage.org/p17xxdc1p/HR2012.jpg


I like this Poster. Excellent one!!!!!

The7zen
06-29-2012, 12:00 PM
+1 to NeedHelps design....I like it.

DallasBlue
06-29-2012, 12:05 PM
http://s12.postimage.org/p17xxdc1p/HR2012.jpg

"It is illegal to discriminate against a job applicant or an employee because of person's national origin"
-- About the EEOC: Overview (http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/)

When employees are hired , there is no cap on the basis of national origin. But when a employment green card is issued , there is a 7% cap on basis of nationality.

Today a if a person from India who files green card in certain category could wait up to 70 years for greencard.


http://s12.postimage.org/p17xxdc1p/HR2012.jpg


Act now For hr 3012
to end the lifetime wait for green cards

ImmigrationVoice.org - Home (http://www.immigrationvoice.org)
Change for fairness and justice

DallasBlue
06-29-2012, 12:07 PM
http://s12.postimage.org/p17xxdc1p/HR2012.jpg

"It is illegal to discriminate against a job applicant or an employee because of person's national origin"
-- http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/

When employees are hired , there is no cap on the basis of national origin. But when a employment green card is issued , there is a 7% cap on basis of nationality.

Today a if a person from India who files green card in certain category could wait up to 70 years for greencard.


http://s12.postimage.org/p17xxdc1p/HR2012.jpg


Act now For hr 3012
to end the lifetime wait for green cards

www.immigrationvoice.org
Change for fairness and justice

seahawks
06-29-2012, 12:09 PM
Here are some of my thoughts, if any of them is catchy, probably somebody with cartoon skills can make something up too..

================================================== ========
Are you one of them, feeling lonely standing in line waiting for your turn that never seems to come? Well join us at Immigration Voice, the largest grassroots organization for people like you and me. Lets together make a difference!
================================================== =======================
Employer = Profit
Lawmaker = Vote bank
Immigration Attorney = Fees
Immigration Voice = You
Join our movement; we are the largest grassroots organization that is making a difference.
=========================

Can you hear ME now? No
Can you hear US now? Yes
Be a part of Immigration Voice and join the thousands of voices that can make a difference.
============================
Do you know, depending on where you were born, you may have to wait 30 years to get your employment based green card due to Country Cap limitations? Help us fight together. Join immigration Voice and support HR 3012 to make a change.
=======================================

Comment: If somebody can make a cartoon on this, that would be a great visual feel rather than the phrase.
Imagine you are participating in a 100 meter dash in the upcoming Olympics and you represent your country. You then realize depending on the country you represent, your finish line gets moved over a mile. Does it make sense? No! Immigration Voice feels the same way with employment green card application based country cap limits. Join us and make our voice heard.
================================================== ===

sage2006
06-29-2012, 12:09 PM
Good poster by needhelp.
Country quotas can be changed to "Per-Country Caps" ..
--- "...20 year wait for EB Green Cards"
to make it more recognizable.

anshu
06-29-2012, 12:12 PM
Do we know when this bill can be brought into the Senate floor? & when voting in sanate, cause now election time all politicians busy in election campain after election nothing we do. before election push in to sanate is that happen?.......:confused:

gk_2000
06-29-2012, 12:13 PM
Good poster by needhelp.
Country quotas can be changed to "Per-Country Caps" ..
--- "...20 year wait for EB Green Cards"
to make it more recognizable.

The immigrationvoice.com part can be tweaked a little by adding the logo and having a fill-color, so it doesn't hurt the eyes by the double-line font
Just a small point ..

gk_2000
06-29-2012, 12:16 PM
http://s12.postimage.org/p17xxdc1p/HR2012.jpg

I think there is no doubt this can be selected. Pappu, can you let me know if we need more posters?

gk_2000
06-29-2012, 12:22 PM
How about a slogan like:
"Tum mujhe support do
Mein tumhe aazadi doonga"

with IV image in the background and text explaining about HR3012 (with "HR 3012" in bigger font)

and below, write "Join IV today and represent yourself with the rest of us"

seahawks
06-29-2012, 12:36 PM
How about a slogan like:
"Tum mujhe support do
Mein tumhe aazadi doonga"

with IV image in the background and text explaining about HR3012 (with "HR 3012" in bigger font)

and below, write "Join IV today and represent yourself with the rest of us"

This message won't be understood by people who are diverse in what they speak other than hindi. As IV represents everyone regardless of the language they speak or language of preference, we need to make materials that sends the right message across in my opinion.

keshtoda
06-29-2012, 12:41 PM
I think everyone associated with IV are very aware of HR3012. I think this poster needs to be targeted towards people who are not aware of such a movement. So some catchy keywords could be:

STILL WAITING FOR GREEN CARD?
STUCK ON H-1B?

JOIN IMMIGRATIONVOICE.COM

Details about the bill and upcoming events could be in smaller font.

gk_2000
06-29-2012, 12:43 PM
This message won't be understood by people who are diverse in what they speak other than hindi. As IV represents everyone regardless of the language they speak or language of preference, we need to make materials that sends the right message across in my opinion.

Thanks for your input

What you say is right, but don't you think it will appeal to the average Indian, and ROW'ers will likely ignore it

green_mile
06-29-2012, 12:44 PM
How about a slogan like:
"Tum mujhe support do
Mein tumhe aazadi doonga"

with IV image in the background and text explaining about HR3012 (with "HR 3012" in bigger font)

and below, write "Join IV today and represent yourself with the rest of us"

You can not assume every immigrant knows Hindi.

sage2006
06-29-2012, 12:55 PM
Very Good Point.

We can add this to needhelp's postr.

Retain Picture in needhelp's poster with change to "Per-Country Limits"

STILL WAITING FOR GREEN CARD? <Medium Font Size>
STUCK ON H-1B,L1? <Medium Font Size>
ACT NOW FOR HR 3012 <Large Font Size as in current poster>
To end the 10-20 Year Wait for EB Green Cards <Small Font Size as in poster)

JOIN IMMIGRATIONVOICE.COM
Change for Fairness and Justice


Please note we can have multiple fliers to keep the ideas coming.

I think everyone associated with IV are very aware of HR3012. I think this poster needs to be targeted towards people who are not aware of such a movement. So some catchy keywords could be:

STILL WAITING FOR GREEN CARD?
STUCK ON H-1B?

JOIN IMMIGRATIONVOICE.COM

Details about the bill and upcoming events could be in smaller font.

turvi76
06-29-2012, 01:08 PM
I am noting everyone's points and working on making a poster.
Admin - Can i email the poster to you directly? Email address? Send as reply to Aman's last email?

Can someone tell me how to upload a file here for everyone to look?

Poster size 8.5X11? or Larger?

thomachan72
06-29-2012, 01:15 PM
pappu I sent one model to starsun for consideration. did not know how to post it here. see if it could be used or else just trash it.

thomachan72
06-29-2012, 01:23 PM
I am noting everyone's points and working on making a poster.
Admin - Can i email the poster to you directly? Email address? Send as reply to Aman's last email?

Can someone tell me how to upload a file here for everyone to look?

Poster size 8.5X11? or Larger?

I created one poster with images of Gandhi, Mandela and MLK all great souls who stood for equality. Have passed it on to starsun and let us see if that idea works. the wordings need to be changed. Did not have much time so it might need to be modified a lot. hopefully they will post it online if acceptable to begin with.
However, pls continue to make one also so we can have multiple options to chose from. Different ones can work at different locations.

gk_2000
06-29-2012, 01:24 PM
You can not assume every immigrant knows Hindi.

Thanks for your input

The phrase in Hindi is a famous quote by Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose. It would be familiar to our generation, stuck in this Queue
The rest is in English. The Hindi will simply catch attention, because it is posted in USA. They may or may not actually read that part.. its function is simply to attract the right eyeballs

dhakaldoo
06-29-2012, 01:41 PM
Didnt get much time to put facts and numbers and good formatting. Please build on this if you like it.

# of Indian applicants for EB2 /EB3 Greencards - -------- THOUSANDS
# of EB2/Eb3 Green cards for INDIA only 2800 / category , under current country limits
# of people coming from Iceland/Libiya/Korea/Pakistan under 1000 per year
# Green cards reserved for them per year 2800

HELP STOP DISCRIMINATION
STAND UP FOR YOURSELF. GET YOUR FAIR SHARE OF GREEN CARDS. BRING STABILITY TO YOUR LIFE.
HELP PUSH BILL THAT STOPS DISCRIMINATION IN EMPLOYMENT BASED CATEGORY


OR


DOES YOUR EMPLOYER CARE WHICH COUNTRY YOU ARE FROM? NO!!
You do your Job fine; you are as talented as your colleague from ANY OTHER country is.

Then why should you wait for 5 more years in line THAN that colleague to get a GREEN CARD ?

HELP STOP DISCRIMINATION
STAND UP FOR YOURSELF. GET YOUR FAIR SHARE OF GREEN CARDS. BRING STABILITY TO YOUR LIFE.
HELP PUSH BILL THAT STOPS DISCRIMINATION IN EMPLOYMENT BASED CATEGORY.

More information www.immigrationvoice.com


JUST SAW THE POSTER NEEDHELP POSTED. ITS AWESOME!!!!

dhakaldoo
06-29-2012, 01:43 PM
Another IDEA


Cartoons of men from different countries...
wait time for GCs below that
and then indian common man from RK Laxman - waiting for ever!

I wll try to find sketches

I wish MR. LAXMAN was my friends :) :)

Suva
06-29-2012, 01:45 PM
I agree.

Thanks for your input

The phrase in Hindi is a famous quote by Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose. It would be familiar to our generation, stuck in this Queue
The rest is in English. The Hindi will simply catch attention, because it is posted in USA. They may or may not actually read that part.. its function is simply to attract the right eyeballs

pappu
06-29-2012, 01:58 PM
If you are unable to attach to the forum post,

Please email the poster to info at Immigrationvoice.org


We need the final poster uploaded by end of day today so the people can print tonight , tomorrow ... And put it up this weekend.

digital2k
06-29-2012, 02:02 PM
Here are some sample used earlier :

http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/3/3b/HR_3012_Flier_1.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a5/HR_3012-Simple_Flyer.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/1/17/Fairness_Flyer.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/f/f7/HR3012_flyer.pdf

:)

thomachan72
06-29-2012, 02:03 PM
If you are unable to attach to the forum post,

Please email the poster to info at Immigrationvoice.org


We need the final poster uploaded by end of day today so the people can print tonight , tomorrow ... And put it up this weekend.

just sent one to this address

turvi76
06-29-2012, 02:11 PM
is it fair to say that all people waiting in the eb quota backlog are people with degrees? in that case, to appeal to most americans, immigrants or not, i would like to say this:

I HAVE EARNED MY DEGREE

WHY NOT MY GREEN CARD

SUPPORT H.R. 3012

IN FAIRNESS AND JUSTICE TO ALL


please comment.

thomachan72
06-29-2012, 02:23 PM
is it fair to say that all people waiting in the eb quota backlog are people with degrees? in that case, to appeal to most americans, immigrants or not, i would like to say this:

I HAVE EARNED MY DEGREE

WHY NOT MY GREEN CARD

SUPPORT H.R. 3012

IN FAIRNESS AND JUSTICE TO ALL


please comment.
My personal take is the poster/flyer should pull folks into visiting IV.org atleast once + there should be a catching phrase containing "equality", "lmmigration-related legislation" etc. We also need to clear up the AI thread so that there is no additional posts to make it several pages long. It should contain only the AI + any of pappus/ammans updates. Our chitchat should preferable move to a second thread. Again just my personal take in preperation for anybody who visits following our poster/flyer campaign.

dhakaldoo
06-29-2012, 02:28 PM
My personal take is the poster/flyer should pull folks into visiting IV.org atleast once + there should be a catching phrase containing "equality", "lmmigration-related legislation" etc. We also need to clear up the AI thread so that there is no additional posts to make it several pages long. It should contain only the AI + any of pappus/ammans updates. Our chitchat should preferable move to a second thread. Again just my personal take in preperation for anybody who visits following our poster/flyer campaign.


I agree. The AI item should be on TOP and when any body goes to website, it should be first thing they notice! I am not sure if this can be done!

dts
06-29-2012, 02:29 PM
I think there is no doubt this can be selected. Pappu, can you let me know if we need more posters?

Good poster by needhelp.
one suggestion:
1) Above all 'Country Quota' sign , let's keep ' Waiting for green card? Here it is.." to catch immediate attention of people.

turvi76
06-29-2012, 02:52 PM
Here you go..

pappu
06-29-2012, 02:53 PM
Good poster by needhelp.
one suggestion:
1) Above all 'Country Quota' sign , let's keep ' Waiting for green card? Here it is.." to catch immediate attention of people.

Need help could you upload the poster file to be printed by everyone. It should have the tear sheet at the bottom. Thank you for making the poster.

gk_2000
06-29-2012, 02:55 PM
Here you go..

Another excellent one... You guys make me jealous of your brilliant ideas.. keep it up!

dts
06-29-2012, 03:19 PM
We had done these posters ImmigrationVoice.org - Immigration Voice Posters and Banners (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=36)

few years ago. Could few members volunteer and create a few options today. We want people to be able to print them and post this weekend in grocery stores, places of worship and any other place where more immigrants come. This is an urgent action item to get people come together for 3012 asap on IV and help push it. Once there is a good copy, even I will be posting a poster this evening. It is a collaborative action item.

Please post on this thread the text you propose should be written. The other people who are not good with writing skills can try to create this flyer in a word document and post here. It does not matter if we have many designs. We just want people having posters to print for this weekend and 4th july holiday.

Message focus:
needs to be catchy and very simple.
- Bill to end backlogs coming soon. We need help get it passed.
- The bill removes country limits, the root cause of backlogs.
- Join Immigration voice
- Immigration voice is the largest grassroots organization of immigrants in USA.

And tear sheets below with Immigrationvoice name and immigrationvoice.org URL for people to tear and take home to remember the url.

Pappu,

Change title of this post to include H.R.3012 in subject line so it will be in search result of on google.
Also, please post whatever flyers finalized at this moment.
People still in office and can print out in lots and start posting.

thomachan72
06-29-2012, 04:18 PM
Here is another one.

needhelp!
06-29-2012, 04:24 PM
Like the one from turvi76 as well..

needhelp!
06-29-2012, 04:30 PM
Here is another one.
This is great too..

dts
06-29-2012, 04:44 PM
Need help could you upload the poster file to be printed by everyone. It should have the tear sheet at the bottom. Thank you for making the poster.

Modified flyer little bit to add lines to catch attention..
atatched jpg.

looivy
06-29-2012, 04:51 PM
I created one poster with images of Gandhi, Mandela and MLK all great souls who stood for equality. Have passed it on to starsun and let us see if that idea works. the wordings need to be changed. Did not have much time so it might need to be modified a lot. hopefully they will post it online if acceptable to begin with.
However, pls continue to make one also so we can have multiple options to chose from. Different ones can work at different locations.

Don't mean to be sarcastic or undermine your idea...should we have Sharukh Khan - Hrithik Roshan - Salman Khan pictures instead. That stuff sells very well and is eye-catching. DISCRIMINATION NAHIN CHALEGA.

looivy
06-29-2012, 04:58 PM
This is great too..

Please mention HR 3012 in the tagline somewhere.

gk_2000
06-29-2012, 04:59 PM
Modified flyer little bit to add lines to catch attention..
atatched jpg.

I would be vary of saying "law coming soon" .. this will make some people to sit and wait, as if they are customers in a restaurant :)

gk_2000
06-29-2012, 05:01 PM
I would be vary of saying "law coming soon" .. this will make some people to sit and wait, as if they are customers in a restaurant :)

vary = wary .. sorry :D

thomachan72
06-29-2012, 05:10 PM
Version with corrections suggested by Ashwin.

dts
06-29-2012, 05:15 PM
vary = wary .. sorry :D

Updated flyer with tear off sheet.
'Law coming soon ' may be magnet for passive people and go deep in to this and then start supporting..
Please update flyer if you wish so...

puding
06-29-2012, 05:20 PM
Version with corrections suggested by Ashwin.

Good one. Is the spelling Backlogg correct? I think it should be backlog. Can you please check & correct.

thomachan72
06-29-2012, 05:47 PM
Good one. Is the spelling Backlogg correct? I think it should be backlog. Can you please check & correct.

My spell check did not catch that. Here is the corrected one

turvi76
06-29-2012, 06:14 PM
I have made one other...check it out.

pappu
06-29-2012, 06:17 PM
I have made one other...check it out.

Thanks. It looks good.

all 3 posters can now be printed and posted this weekend.

digital2k
06-29-2012, 06:31 PM
Everyoned had been so creative, focused today. A big Thank you from heart with tears of joy to EVERYONE. Efforts like these are destined to succeed. :)

We wait for finals, Team can post it on a new thread or a action page for new people and also translation for our Chinese Friends ...

My spell check did not catch that. Here is the corrected one

I have made one other...check it out.

Updated flyer with tear off sheet.
'Law coming soon ' may be magnet for passive people and go deep in to this and then start supporting..
Please update flyer if you wish so...

.

sage2006
06-29-2012, 06:40 PM
Pappu's first post is updated with all the details and links to fliers.
Please start the action item ASAP.

hello
06-29-2012, 06:42 PM
Updated flyer with tear off sheet.
'Law coming soon ' may be magnet for passive people and go deep in to this and then start supporting..
Please update flyer if you wish so...Looks good.Pls don't put "s" after LET.Thanks

gk_2000
06-29-2012, 06:47 PM
Updated flyer with tear off sheet.
'Law coming soon ' may be magnet for passive people and go deep in to this and then start supporting..
Please update flyer if you wish so...

Ok... I took another look, and have more points. I will not be able to edit it, because the text is in image form

- "waiting" -- needs capital "W"
- "Here it is" --- really?
Try: YOU can now make it happen
- Remove the law coming soon and final push lines below the image. Now
"ACT NOW FOR HR 3012" will remain. Makes sense?
- below that write:
It only needs your support for the FINAL PUSH
End 20 years wait for getting your green card. Join IV etc etc

Also, the image is "flattened" a bit. Try to lengthen it. You can drag down the bottom margin all the way. That will make room. See attached.

checkmet64
06-29-2012, 06:48 PM
Thanks. It looks good.

all 3 posters can now be printed and posted this weekend.

All 3 look great. I liked the one with King-Gandhi-Mandela the best, DHANSU really !!

turvi76
06-29-2012, 06:57 PM
Pappu's first post is updated with all the details and links to fliers.
Please start the action item ASAP.
ashwin_27, i had two posters. can you also post the second one (IV Poster-Clock1.pdf ) to pappu's original post if you deem that worthy too?
thanks.

sage2006
06-29-2012, 06:59 PM
culd you correct the website address - its www.immigrationvoice.org
also pls attach the second flier you are referring to in a reply post and I can add it.

ashwin_27, i had two posters. can you also post the second one (IV Poster-Clock1.pdf ) to pappu's original post if you deem that worthy too?
thanks.

digital2k
06-29-2012, 07:10 PM
Thank You
Thanks. It looks good.
all 3 posters can now be printed and posted this weekend.

We had done these posters ImmigrationVoice.org - Immigration Voice Posters and Banners (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=36)

few years ago. Could few members volunteer and create a few options today. We want people to be able to print them and post this weekend in grocery stores, places of worship and any other place where more immigrants come. This is an urgent action item to get people come together for 3012 asap on IV and help push it. Once there is a good copy, even I will be posting a poster this evening. It is a collaborative action item.

Please post on this thread the text you propose should be written. The other people who are not good with writing skills can try to create this flyer in a word document and post here. It does not matter if we have many designs. We just want people having posters to print for this weekend and 4th july holiday.

Message focus:
needs to be catchy and very simple.
- Bill to end backlogs coming soon. We need help get it passed.
- The bill removes country limits, the root cause of backlogs.
- Join Immigration voice
- Immigration voice is the largest grassroots organization of immigrants in USA.

And tear sheets below with Immigrationvoice name and immigrationvoice.org URL for people to tear and take home to remember the url.

UPDATE WITH DETAILS OF ACTION ITEM

1) Print out - (color printouts much preferred) multiple copies of the following fliers

http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/0/05/Needhelp_flier.pdf (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/0/05/Needhelp_flier.pdf)
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/b/b0/Thomachan_flier.pdf (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/b/b0/Thomachan_flier.pdf)

2) Post the fliers - near all grocery stores, temples, theaters and other locations which are frequented by impacted/retrogressed EB applicants who will benefited by this initiative. Use your judgement wisely on where you post the fliers.

3) Caution - DO NOT post the fliers on USPS mailboxes, it is against the law.

4) Talk to your friends/acquaintances - Pick up the phone and call your friends, colleagues, acquaintances who are still not aware of this bill. Explain the importance of H.R 3012 - how it brings long-awaited fairness to the system and reduces wait times drastically for retrogressed EB applicants. Explain how the bill was passed overwhelmingly by the House and is very close to being passed by the Senate and signed into law. There is no better tool than talking to someone to make them aware of the importance of this legislation.

5) Forward Flier - Forward soft copies of the flier to your friends, contacts and have them post it at locations in their neighborhood where it will be effective.

6) Like, Comment positively and share our Facebook page and follow us on Twitter. IV member donquit has been managing this single-handedly, on your behalf and its time to help him spread the message in social media world.

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/#!/Support.HR3012 (https://www.facebook.com/#!/Support.HR3012)
Twitter - http://twitter.com/support_hr_3012 (http://twitter.com/support_hr_3012)

We are very close to the finish line and are confident that H.R 3012 will be passed by Congress and signed into law very soon. Let us add more grassroots efforts now and be part of this historic legislative initiative. Immigration Voice requires all affected EB green card applicants - waiting for years to get a green card they deserve - to speak up, join this campaign and be counted.

Its our Chance to make the most out of next few days ...

turvi76
06-29-2012, 07:49 PM
ashwin_27 here is 1 of 2 fliers...

turvi76
06-29-2012, 07:51 PM
ashwin_27, here is 2 of 2 fliers...

smiles
06-30-2012, 01:05 AM
Great effort !! Just saw the posters and all of them look awesome !!

I'll be the first one to post in all prominent locations in my city in the morning... thanks again for all the contributions.... :)

spicy_guy
06-30-2012, 11:07 AM
My spell check did not catch that. Here is the corrected one

I have a few minor suggestions.

1. Text Immigrationvoice.org is not legit. We should make it eye catchy when we glance at the poster.
2. There should be a comma between "WHEN THESE SOULS TALKED, OTHER SOULS LISTENED".
3. I think there should verbiage somewhere about Green Card, Backlog, etc. That way, it will be more compelling.

sbuggana
06-30-2012, 01:29 PM
most of the versions look very decent to me but i think the more important point to ro post at places where lot of people not only will pay attention but have time to discuss and willing to act on it. to do this people need to hang in there and explain the stuff.Just try to be the best salesman for this noble cause . Please call every single indian and even americans you know and are willing to sign the petition b'cos numbers matter, whether they are GC holders or citizens.

Robert Kumar
06-30-2012, 01:56 PM
ashwin_27, here is 2 of 2 fliers...

Great Flyers.
I'm printing these now and will place them at grocery stories in the area,

forever_waiting
06-30-2012, 02:36 PM
Posted several fliers at a nearby desi grocery store this morning. Half the strips were gone on many of the fliers by the time I was done shopping.
Will post at two temples this evening.

Come on folks..need more energy here!!

[I]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UPDATED WITH DETAILS OF ACTION ITEM[/U][/B]

1) Print out - (color printouts much preferred) multiple copies of the following fliers

http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/0/05/Needhelp_flier.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/b/b0/Thomachan_flier.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/e/ed/Turvi76_flier1.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/f/f3/Turvi76_flier2.pdf

2) Post the fliers - near all grocery stores, temples, theaters and other locations which are frequented by impacted/retrogressed EB applicants who will benefited by this initiative. Use your judgement wisely on where you post the fliers. Please start this weekend and continue through the July 4th weekend.

3) Caution - DO NOT post the fliers on USPS mailboxes, it is against the law.

4) Talk to your friends/acquaintances - Pick up the phone and call your friends, colleagues, acquaintances who are still not aware of this bill. Explain the importance of H.R 3012 - how it brings long-awaited fairness to the system and reduces wait times drastically for retrogressed EB applicants. Explain how the bill was passed overwhelmingly by the House and is very close to being passed by the Senate and signed into law. There is no better tool than talking to someone to make them aware of the importance of this legislation.
Encourage your friends to become members and CONTRIBUTE to IV and help in the advocacy efforts.

5) Forward Flier - Forward soft copies of the flier to your friends, contacts and have them post it at locations in their neighborhood where it will be effective.

6) Like, Comment positively and share our Facebook page and follow us on Twitter. We are also on Google+ now. IV member donquit has been managing this single-handedly, on your behalf and its time to help him spread the message in social media world.

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/#!/Support.HR3012
Twitter - Pass.HR3012 (SUPPORT_HR_3012) on Twitter (http://twitter.com/support_hr_3012)
Support.HR3012 (SUPPORT_HR3012) on Twitter (http://twitter.com/Support_HR3012)
Google+ - https://plus.google.com/109630183957372098398

We are very close to the finish line and are confident that H.R 3012 will be passed by Congress and signed into law very soon. Let us add more grassroots efforts now and be part of this historic legislative initiative. Immigration Voice requires all affected EB green card applicants - waiting for years to get a green card they deserve - to speak up, join this campaign and be counted.

spicy_guy
06-30-2012, 03:02 PM
As new people flock in, I guess we need to make the Important thread sticky. That way new people won't wander over the site to get the right info. (Action items?)

Chandini
06-30-2012, 03:10 PM
I already posted in Temples and 2 indian grocery stores. I left about 30 printed papers at the temple and flyers are already taken. Hope it helps

turvi76
06-30-2012, 03:32 PM
As new people flock in, I guess we need to make the Important thread sticky. That way new people won't wander over the site to get the right info. (Action items?)
I second that. The homepage has lot of items and its easy for a new comer to get lost and loose interest.
Admin- Can the website be a little adjusted to make the pressing items/action items more stand out?

I dont know if others face this but i frequently get bumped out after logging in and have to try several times to retain my account logged in to post something on the forum.

sbuggana
06-30-2012, 04:37 PM
I agree that the HR 3012 should be the only obvious item discussed as the new comers come with somewhat naive questions where they could get answer easily and they dwarf the important discussion about HR 3012.

looivy
06-30-2012, 04:44 PM
i agree that the hr 3012 should be the only obvious item discussed as the new comers come with somewhat naive questions where they could get answer easily and they dwarf the important discussion about hr 3012.

great job.

Can we also add a message for family based visa increase to 15%. That should resonate with a lot of desi people. Some of the resident artists can you help.

sbuggana
06-30-2012, 04:48 PM
I want to check with admin , if any of these donations are tax deductable . If this bill passes and becomes law by october 12 , I am going to pledge $1000 to IV immdediately

pappu
06-30-2012, 05:52 PM
I want to check with admin , if any of these donations are tax deductable . If this bill passes and becomes law by october 12 , I am going to pledge $1000 to IV immdediately

Resources are needed to get the bill passed not after the bill is passed. No there is no tax deduction. It is a real chance this time and this is the closest we have been to getting an immigration bill passed into a law in the last 12 years. If people do not join now, it will be too late. The kind of effort needed is beyond $25/month. It has to be a really big push. This is why we need each and every person stuck in retrogression on IV asap.

i_my_Voice
06-30-2012, 06:47 PM
Very Good Point.

We can add this to needhelp's postr.

Retain Picture in needhelp's poster with change to "Per-Country Limits"

STILL WAITING FOR GREEN CARD? <Medium Font Size>
STUCK ON H-1B,L1? <Medium Font Size>
ACT NOW FOR HR 3012 <Large Font Size as in current poster>
To end the 10-20 Year Wait for EB Green Cards <Small Font Size as in poster)

JOIN IMMIGRATIONVOICE.COM
Change for Fairness and Justice


Please note we can have multiple fliers to keep the ideas coming.
Very good recommendation.

starscream
06-30-2012, 07:15 PM
Renewed monthly Subscription today for $50 6 months.

In addition to the monthly subscrpition, Have contributed $500 specifically for HR 3012 .

Completed all action items foer HR 3012


Resources are needed to get the bill passed not after the bill is passed. No there is no tax deduction. It is a real chance this time and this is the closest we have been to getting an immigration bill passed into a law in the last 12 years. If people do not join now, it will be too late. The kind of effort needed is beyond $25/month. It has to be a really big push. This is why we need each and every person stuck in retrogression on IV asap.

KiranKashi
06-30-2012, 08:32 PM
Posted the fliers in the local grocery store. Contacting friends to contribute. This is the last chance everyone has to be part of this great effort.

praskar
06-30-2012, 08:36 PM
...designed like a Movie Poster!

Stuck in the Muck??
Its time to END the LOOOOOONG Green Card Backlog!
COMING SOON to the immigrant community near you!

From the largest grassroots organization of immigrants in the USA, Immigration Voice Proudly Presents:
Bill HR3012
Introducing:
Country Limits Removal the Root Cause of Backlog

Director: Immigration Voice
Producers: Immigrants WHO want CHANGE

Come, join, contribute and be a part of this amazing Journey!!

Please feel free to add/edit and beautify! Thanks!

I think we should keep it simple and professional looking. This makes it look a bit like an invitation to an amateur high school Shakespeare play.

praskar
06-30-2012, 08:38 PM
I've posted them in 2 of the biggest grocery stores in Irving, TX and will be doing the same when I go to Houston this wknd. We have to be very careful however, as some of the demographics visiting the said grocery stores can be non-Indian (our neighbours) who won't benefit by this.

new_horizon
06-30-2012, 10:42 PM
Donated $100 towards HR 3012.
Transaction ID: 4FA33900YD4046253 (https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_view-a-trans&id=4FA33900YD4046253)


Proud Regular Monthly Donor since 2007.

coopheal
07-01-2012, 07:17 AM
If not us then who
If not now then when

Go IV go....

Will put the banners in temples and stores today.

Amman
07-01-2012, 11:53 AM
Unfortunately, this weekend storm knocks down the power and internet on DC metro area(VA, MD and D.C). So you may not see much action from DC area people. I will take some printouts and post it few places this evening.

gk_2000
07-01-2012, 07:01 PM
Resources are needed to get the bill passed not after the bill is passed. No there is no tax deduction. It is a real chance this time and this is the closest we have been to getting an immigration bill passed into a law in the last 12 years. If people do not join now, it will be too late. The kind of effort needed is beyond $25/month. It has to be a really big push. This is why we need each and every person stuck in retrogression on IV asap.

Subscription#S-2AG7560571379262H -- renewed my subscription with amount doubled to $50. Wish I could give more, but unfortunately not at this time. It has been a month of expenses, but hope to make up later

newdif
07-02-2012, 03:17 AM
I had also posted them in both China Town & India Town. H.R.3012 will pass!!!

digital2k
07-02-2012, 01:02 PM
Met and discussed with few hundred people with positive results
Every owner or place gave prominent, visible location for flyers.

Mission was clear, talk to people and explain to get support not only flyer posting.

Thank You Team and Everyone, please help reach more, be part of these historic moments ...

Goals that once seemed far away are close but NOW everyone' collective, ALL efforts can lead to success.

Things fade away, people change but memories of your participation will live on forever ...

nosightofgc
07-02-2012, 01:23 PM
I just made another $200.00 contribution via Check (Confirmation Number # DRVBW-G9LYT). This is a drop in the ocean as compared to what the IV Leaders are doing for the community to help you, me and all of us who are stuck in this GC mess.

dontcareaboutGC
07-02-2012, 01:30 PM
Thanks for your efforts!

GC4physicist
07-02-2012, 01:33 PM
Just donated 100 $. Will spread the word. Great job by IV.

HS

Legal_Guy_HiTech_Slave
07-02-2012, 01:34 PM
I have just contributed $100 monthly recurring for the next 12 mo's. Go IV go...All your efforts are worthwhile and hope will result in good outcome.

thomachan72
07-02-2012, 01:42 PM
thanks to all who are contributing!!!!!!!! good job.

Legal_Guy_HiTech_Slave
07-02-2012, 02:10 PM
Guys, please contribure/donate liberally now in order to stimulate our work and resources. 10 / 25 $ is not enough. We need more monthly donations 100$ per month or 250$ per month or even 1000$ per month would be great to collect and gives us some good amount for lobbying. Thanks

praskar
07-02-2012, 02:18 PM
Guys, another great place to post is in Arizona and TX Universities that have a huge # of indians and Chinese.

Qualifiedfor2butinEB3
07-02-2012, 02:32 PM
Donated $100, Transaction ID: 0694-0055-0986-7990

------------
Proud Contributor. Prior to this, donated $ 700 + for HR 3012

reddymjm
07-02-2012, 02:39 PM
Contributed $100. Tran id: xxxxx353UT3924905

pd052011
07-02-2012, 02:47 PM
Contributed $100

jnr
07-02-2012, 03:00 PM
I am trying to contribute. But the redirection to paypal is not working. I don't get redirected to paypal.

nosightofgc
07-02-2012, 03:20 PM
I had the same issue. It was going to smilies page.

digital2k
07-02-2012, 03:29 PM
Please use following link and is working :

Immigration Voice - PayPal Donate (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/misc.php?do=donate)

Sometimes you need to retry ...

Thank You for your great efforts

Chandini
07-02-2012, 03:31 PM
Your contribution page is not working.

pappu
07-02-2012, 04:25 PM
I am confused,


Can anyone tell the real status.

So you believe the you are not getting the real status from the link you quoted? :)

Welcome to IV. You joined today and you will know a lot by actively participating here and reading the discussions, Do get more involved.

The link you quoted has been deleted. That link does not give a status but only advertises a business. The other site is also a business site and you do not want to waste your time there if you really want to advocate for the bill to go through.

shriny
07-02-2012, 04:58 PM
your reply says, link deleted, but you deleted entire content.

I am not sure if knowing status questions are not allowed?

gsarav
07-02-2012, 05:10 PM
I am trying to contribute. But the redirection to paypal is not working. I don't get redirected to paypal.
I had similar issue with firefox. I switched to IE and the donation page worked fine.

jnr
07-02-2012, 05:18 PM
I had similar issue with firefox. I switched to IE and the donation page worked fine.

So the redirection works only on IE? I have ubuntu so kind of IE impaired. I tried it on chrome.

coopheal
07-02-2012, 05:33 PM
your reply says, link deleted, but you deleted entire content.

I am not sure if knowing status questions are not allowed?

You are asking a false question.

IV gives updates and more importantly issues action items which will help the cause. If you are a pro HR3012 then follow the action items.

gk_2000
07-02-2012, 06:45 PM
You are asking a false question.

IV gives updates and more importantly issues action items which will help the cause. If you are a pro HR3012 then follow the action items.

I suggest being more gentle with newbies ..

Yes, Sriny, we guys here are trying to get more focused as we are in the middle of some exciting action. Pls treat this and issues like this as "small fry" and look for the more important work that is announced here from time to time

pappu
07-02-2012, 07:01 PM
Let us use 4 July holiday to distribute flyers in our town 's grocery stores, places of worship etc.

Please also email your friends and post on Facebook about this bill and link to immigration voice. We need out next action item to have massive participation. So let us gather each and every person stuck in the greencard mess.

forever_waiting
07-03-2012, 01:43 AM
Posted fliers at the temple in my area as well as apartment community notice board.

C'mon people..takes just 5-10 mins. post fliers, talk to friends and then update here so others will follow suit. THis is the least we can do while IV-Core is doing all the hard work out there.

forever_waiting
07-03-2012, 01:48 AM
Moderators have to keep an eye on links etc since the forum is viewed by opponents of the bill as well. And most other so-called forums have all sorts of nonsense posted there.
The post by Admin2 on the other AI thread has all the updates you would need. Beyond that, as pointed by gk_2000, check out action items and try to get your friends involved. This is time for all backlogged folks to unite and use IV platform as best as possible and push for 3012.

your reply says, link deleted, but you deleted entire content.

I am not sure if knowing status questions are not allowed?

Chandini
07-03-2012, 09:36 AM
Papu,

I can do a email blast for about some 9,000 people database. Can you send me the text what has to sent if that ok. Most of the emails are desi emails.


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UPDATED WITH DETAILS OF ACTION ITEM[/U][/B]

About H.R-3012 (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/HR_3012_%282011-2012%29)

There are thousands of people stuck in green card backlogs, long wait times, retreogresion but are still not aware of H.R3012 -Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act and the benefits it brings by way of fairness, first-come-first-serve approach due to removal of per country caps.
We have to inform all such people about the bill and about IV grass-roots initiatives which have brought the bill close to the finish line now so they can join in the grass-roots efforts.


1) Print out - (color printouts much preferred) multiple copies of the following fliers

http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/0/05/Needhelp_flier.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/b/b0/Thomachan_flier.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/e/ed/Turvi76_flier1.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/f/f3/Turvi76_flier2.pdf

2) Post the fliers - near all grocery stores, temples, theaters and other locations which are frequented by impacted/retrogressed EB applicants who will benefited by this initiative. Use your judgement wisely on where you post the fliers. Please start this weekend and continue through the July 4th weekend.

3) Caution - DO NOT post the fliers on USPS mailboxes, it is against the law.

4) Talk to your friends/acquaintances - Pick up the phone and call your friends, colleagues, acquaintances who are still not aware of this bill. Explain the importance of H.R 3012 - how it brings long-awaited fairness to the system and reduces wait times drastically for retrogressed EB applicants. Explain how the bill was passed overwhelmingly by the House and is very close to being passed by the Senate and signed into law. There is no better tool than talking to someone to make them aware of the importance of this legislation.
Encourage your friends to become members and CONTRIBUTE to IV and help in the advocacy efforts.

5) Forward Flier - Forward soft copies of the flier to your friends, contacts and have them post it at locations in their neighborhood where it will be effective.

6) Like, Comment positively and share our Facebook page and follow us on Twitter. We are also on Google+ now. IV member donquit has been managing this single-handedly, on your behalf and its time to help him spread the message in social media world.

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/#!/Support.HR3012
Twitter - Support.HR3012 (@SUPPORT_HR3012) on Twitter (http://twitter.com/Support_HR3012)
Google+ - https://plus.google.com/s/immigrationvoice

We are very close to the finish line and are confident that H.R 3012 will be passed by Congress and signed into law very soon. Let us add more grassroots efforts now and be part of this historic legislative initiative. Immigration Voice requires all affected EB green card applicants - waiting for years to get a green card they deserve - to speak up, join this campaign and be counted.

pappu
07-03-2012, 09:57 AM
Papu,

I can do a email blast for about some 9,000 people database. Can you send me the text what has to sent if that ok. Most of the emails are desi emails.

Thank you very much.
You can use info from recent action item/post and create your message. We cannot have an official email going through a blast other then from IV server. So this email blast can be you informing your database of people about IV. Please add a message for people to forward the information to their friends they know are stuck in backlogs.

pappu
07-03-2012, 10:02 AM
Everyone, please inform your office groups, yahoo groups, google groups, facebook friends etc about HR3012 and IV. We need every person stuck in backlogs available for action items. Time is short and we need to get this done. Each person is important for the support and we all need to do our part.

niklshah
07-03-2012, 10:11 AM
contributed $ 100 for a great cause

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 38G42552LM9969546

thanks IV.

in8thfloor
07-03-2012, 10:42 AM
$25.00 USD for each month, for 6 installments

h1techSlave
07-03-2012, 11:24 AM
I have taken some 25 print outs of the first and last fliers and gave to all my colleagues @ work and requested them to post in Indian store, Gym etc.

The sad fact is that the awareness of EB GC issues is very low.

thomachan72
07-03-2012, 01:24 PM
I have taken some 25 print outs of the first and last fliers and gave to all my colleagues @ work and requested them to post in Indian store, Gym etc.

The sad fact is that the awareness of EB GC issues is very low.

Not true. The level of awarness about EB GC issues is quite adequate among both the EB community as well as others. Everybody know the issues of H1bs/H4s/labor audits/long waits etc etc The problem is that nobody believes that anything can be done about that. It is that perception that needs to be changed. Most people believe that 8 year wait is normal and not anything that is worth complaining about.

I do agree that the level of awareness about pending bill 3012 is very low. Again nobody even remotely thinks that it is possible for a group of immigrants who are all either on H1b or on EAD and a few of their friends who have been greened can create such an impact. But here we are, right on the doorstep of great freedom!! It is that impact of IV that needs to be spread among others. That we are "one" and the day is already here when EB immigrants also have a voice and a mechanism in place to voice their rightful demands.

We are happy that IV has finally broken the "ilusion" of a "helpful AILA". We dont want them to fight for us. They are welcome to join us but not to dictate terms for any matter that affects us.

gk_2000
07-03-2012, 01:24 PM
I have taken some 25 print outs of the first and last fliers and gave to all my colleagues @ work and requested them to post in Indian store, Gym etc.

The sad fact is that the awareness of EB GC issues is very low.

Not only that, but the resistance level is also very high. it is tiring!

gk_2000
07-03-2012, 01:28 PM
Not true. The level of awarness about EB GC issues is quite adequate among both the EB community as well as others. Everybody know the issues of H1bs/H4s/labor audits/long waits etc etc The problem is that nobody believes that anything can be done about that. It is that perception that needs to be changed. Most people believe that 8 year wait is normal and not anything that is worth complaining about.

I do agree that the level of awareness about pending bill 3012 is very low. Again nobody even remotely thinks that it is possible for a group of immigrants who are all either on H1b or on EAD and a few of their friends who have been greened can create such an impact. But here we are, right on the doorstep of great freedom!! It is that impact of IV that needs to be spread among others. That we are "one" and the day is already here when EB immigrants also have a voice and a mechanism in place to voice their rightful demands.

We are happy that IV has finally broken the "ilusion" of a "helpful AILA". We dont want them to fight for us. They are welcome to join us but not to dictate terms for any matter that affects us.

Whenever I mention AILA, my friends run away, saying they are very powerful and we must have them on our side if we want to succeed. Also they say that in Nov 2011 AILA supported thats why we succeeded. Not sure what argument will be effective against them

thomachan72
07-03-2012, 01:39 PM
Whenever I mention AILA, my friends run away, saying they are very powerful and we must have them on our side if we want to succeed. Also they say that in Nov 2011 AILA supported thats why we succeeded. Not sure what argument will be effective against them
Well we are now out in the open ocean with no AILA to help us steer the boat now. We purposefully cut of that "pseudo-sail" that we had because it created an ilusion that we wrongfully relied on for many years. The good thing is that we are now on "reality sail". The only strength we have now is the true strength of EB immigrant community. IV has learnt how to flap its wings and really soar without resting frequently on unreliable branches.
I agree there is no argument against them that say AILA's support helped us. Yes it might certainly have been their help at that point of time: but now we are genuinely breaking away from that since we realized that everything they did had a hidden agenda that was not often in our ultimate interest.
IV has not said that it will not seek their help again. The only thing is that IV is now on firm footting and we will seek anybody's help as we think will serve our purpose. In other words the feeling I get being part of IV and hearing from core is that they now have learnt to steer the boat. Previously others were steering it and IV was looking at it from outside. Great going IV. IV is now the captain of its own team. We dont rely on consultants like AILA to serve as our captains anymore. They are reserves and can be asked to play if need arises!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

amulchandra
07-03-2012, 01:43 PM
Well we are now out in the open ocean with no AILA to help us steer the boat now. We purposefully cut of that "pseudo-sail" that we had because it created an ilusion that we wrongfully relied on for many years. The good thing is that we are now on "reality sail". The only strength we have now is the true strength of EB immigrant community. IV has learnt how to flap its wings and really soar without resting frequently on unreliable branches.
I agree there is no argument against them that say AILA's support helped us. Yes it might certainly have been their help at that point of time: but now we are genuinely breaking away from that since we realized that everything they did had a hidden agenda that was not often in our ultimate interest.
IV has not said that it will not seek their help again. The only thing is that IV is now on firm footting and we will seek anybody's help as we think will serve our purpose. In other words the feeling I get being part of IV and hearing from core is that they now have learnt to steer the boat. Previously others were steering it and IV was looking at it from outside. Great going IV. IV is now the captain of its own team. We dont rely on consultants like AILA to serve as our captains anymore. They are reserves and can be asked to play if need arises!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great explanation!

thomachan72
07-03-2012, 01:47 PM
I am wondering whether it will be possible for the mods/admins to create a seperate section towards the top of the website just for H.R.3012. something like "H.R.3012 Action place" or something like that. It should have a brief outline of the bill, its current status, and the action items". It also could have links to the wiki/facebook/twitter etc and a link for contribution.
As a result of the flyer campaign if anybody visits our website they should find the navigation smooth and clear. I wouldn't want to read through thread of several pages to realize whats going on.
Again this is all asuming that the flyer campaign will result in increased traffic of atleast >5K in the next few days.

sage2006
07-03-2012, 02:51 PM
Folks,

Please add/update your signature as below. We have an HR3012 wiki with some very useful information especially for people who want an overview of the bill and some milestones. Please add the signature so new members or anyone can easily link to the Wiki as well as our FB, twitter, G+ pages. You can change the title or the format to something you like..just make sure all the links are there.

pappu
07-03-2012, 02:52 PM
Not only that, but the resistance level is also very high. it is tiring!

Not really.

If you tell people-- come and I will tell you what is the prediction for next month's bulletin, a lot of them will come. :)

It just shows that people are more than aware. They are simply hiding behind anonymity on the forums/are helpless without hope/ or have no idea how advocacy is done. But once you explain what we do, people get interested. There needs to be a one to one dialog and it works. This is why we ask each one of us to reach out to our friends on emails and facebook. Call people you know and talk to them and we are going to be a part of a big historic moment soon. Not only dates will move forward like a Grand Prix race the discriminatory quota system will disappear. And all this is happening because of a like minded bunch of immigrants like you and me decided to get together and took this challenge and are fixing it. Let us join them, help out and be a proud member of this historic moment.

pappu
07-03-2012, 02:55 PM
Folks,

Please add/update your signature as below. We have an HR3012 wiki with some very useful information especially for people who want an overview of the bill and some milestones. Please add the signature so new members or anyone can easily link to the Wiki as well as our FB, twitter, G+ pages. You can change the title or the format to something you like..just make sure all the links are there.

Thank you. Could you please repost with the link code in it, so that everyone can copy paste.

checklaw
07-03-2012, 03:51 PM
Posted fliers at 3 prominent grocery stores around my home and work area today.

starscream
07-03-2012, 03:54 PM
Shriny,

Welcome to IV. Please update your profile. Please do browse throug the nbelwomlinks to find out more about HR 3012 and IV activities for HR 3012

your reply says, link deleted, but you deleted entire content.

I am not sure if knowing status questions are not allowed?

The Alchemist
07-03-2012, 04:39 PM
Thank you. Could you please repost with the link code in it, so that everyone can copy paste.

see attachment...you can always tweak per your taste!

turvi76
07-03-2012, 04:43 PM
see attachment...you can always tweak per your taste!
Nice signature :)

in8thfloor
07-04-2012, 08:13 AM
Not true. The level of awarness about EB GC issues is quite adequate among both the EB community as well as others. Everybody know the issues of H1bs/H4s/labor audits/long waits etc etc The problem is that nobody believes that anything can be done about that. It is that perception that needs to be changed. Most people believe that 8 year wait is normal and not anything that is worth complaining about.

I do agree that the level of awareness about pending bill 3012 is very low. Again nobody even remotely thinks that it is possible for a group of immigrants who are all either on H1b or on EAD and a few of their friends who have been greened can create such an impact. But here we are, right on the doorstep of great freedom!! It is that impact of IV that needs to be spread among others. That we are "one" and the day is already here when EB immigrants also have a voice and a mechanism in place to voice their rightful demands.

We are happy that IV has finally broken the "ilusion" of a "helpful AILA". We dont want them to fight for us. They are welcome to join us but not to dictate terms for any matter that affects us.

That's really true. Many people do not know IV's effort behind this bill, and they do not think that change is possible.
I had been sending email to all know friends, surprisingly half of them do not have any idea how things work and some of them never heard about IV.

Please spread awareness and request them to contribute.

gc_check
07-04-2012, 08:57 AM
see attachment...you can always tweak per your taste!

It will be good to include the signature in personal emails too that you send to folks affected by EB Backlogs and to other as well if you prefer.

sanhari
07-04-2012, 10:44 AM
I agree with you thomachan72, there should be a link on the main page of IV for HR3012 (bold and bright), that will greatly help for new visitors of IV.

I am wondering whether it will be possible for the mods/admins to create a seperate section towards the top of the website just for H.R.3012. something like "H.R.3012 Action place" or something like that. It should have a brief outline of the bill, its current status, and the action items". It also could have links to the wiki/facebook/twitter etc and a link for contribution.
As a result of the flyer campaign if anybody visits our website they should find the navigation smooth and clear. I wouldn't want to read through thread of several pages to realize whats going on.
Again this is all asuming that the flyer campaign will result in increased traffic of atleast >5K in the next few days.

sanhari
07-04-2012, 11:22 AM
Date of sign up: Jul 4, 2012
Subscription Name: Donation to Support Immigration Voice (User: sanhari)

Just now subscribed for a monthly donation to IV.

Good luck to all of us on getting the HR3012 signed and passed at the earliest

Thanks to IV for all the efforts and selfless service....

Chandini
07-04-2012, 01:07 PM
Pappu,

Receipt No: 4337-5364-6286-6467.

Posted flyers at the temple and Indian grocery stores.

Already Sent Hindu temple database and other organization of 9000 people an email blasts about H R 3012

Sent a email to small desi community database in CA.

i will TRY requesting the Sai center and Chinnmaya mission people to send the same.

Hope it helps. Good luck to each and every one

pappu
07-04-2012, 02:12 PM
Pappu,

Receipt No: 4337-5364-6286-6467.

Posted flyers at the temple and Indian grocery stores.

Already Sent Hindu temple database and other organization of 9000 people an email blasts about H R 3012

Sent a email to small desi community database in CA.

i will TRY requesting the Sai center and Chinnmaya mission people to send the same.

Hope it helps. Good luck to each and every one
Thank you

ahasan
07-04-2012, 02:57 PM
Donated $100

Receipt number: 1886-9166-0264-2237.

Thanks IV

sripk
07-04-2012, 08:08 PM
I posted flyers today at many buildings in our big apartment complex but surprisingly there was not even a single flyer related to this in any of the places though many Indians live and work here in the heart of silicon valley. I can only imagine how hard it must be for the core team to motivate people to help themselves by at least spreading the word if not more. Hope people realize that everyone must do their part and not wait for others to do all the work. I spoke to couple of non Indians and they were very supportive. I explained the issue but one of them asked me why I don't go back to India instead of struggling here as job market is good there. I told I earned my advanced degree here and why not GC as i have lived and contributed to economy for a decade in this country. Thanks again IV for fighting this battle with few resources and close to getting this bill passed!

turvi76
07-04-2012, 11:26 PM
I posted flyers today at many buildings in our big apartment complex but surprisingly there was not even a single flyer related to this in any of the places though many Indians live and work here in the heart of silicon valley. I can only imagine how hard it must be for the core team to motivate people to help themselves by at least spreading the word if not more. Hope people realize that everyone must do their part and not wait for others to do all the work. I spoke to couple of non Indians and they were very supportive. I explained the issue but one of them asked me why I don't go back to India instead of struggling here as job market is good there. I told I earned my advanced degree here and why not GC as i have lived and contributed to economy for a decade in this country. Thanks again IV for fighting this battle with few resources and close to getting this bill passed!
True. I went to a couple grocery stores and indian chat cafe and none of them had the flyers. I educated the people at the counter about this bill in case anyone asked them what it is about. I was really surprised that so many indians frequent these stores and there was no action.
My non-indian coworkers and friends have been super supportive and have already signed the online petition.
At this moment, i believe, we need more people like us, stuck on H-1b to join IV and contribute.
IV - can you please take few other members suggestions to make H.R. 3012 more prominent on the homepage? I know most of you are stretched thin with plenty tasks along with your day jobs. I applaud your time and sincerity. We cannot thank you enough!

satyasrd
07-05-2012, 08:29 AM
Hi,
Could someone please give me a format for the flier? I want to post it in my apartment complex and local grocery stores.
I am from the Boston area.

Thank you!

thomachan72
07-05-2012, 08:42 AM
Hi,
Could someone please give me a format for the flier? I want to post it in my apartment complex and local grocery stores.
I am from the Boston area.

Thank you!

You can download the flyers from the first page of the action item thread.

new_horizon
07-05-2012, 10:09 AM
Hi,
Could someone please give me a format for the flier? I want to post it in my apartment complex and local grocery stores.
I am from the Boston area.

Thank you!

You'll find it here:

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/3052016-updated-quick-action-item-june-29-july4-post3512058.html

GCSeeker_1
07-05-2012, 12:52 PM
Donated $100.00
Thanks IV for all your efforts ..
Your receipt number for this payment is: 3137-6290-1406-3917

GCSeeker_1

forever_waiting
07-06-2012, 10:15 PM
Forwarded fliers to a friend in Dallas and talked to him to post the fliers there. He lives in an area with lots of desi folks but hasn't seen the flier anywhere there so far. I am sure there are lots of folks on this forum from Dallas...please help spread the message there.

Robert Kumar
07-07-2012, 06:24 AM
Staples charges between 5c to 10 c for a copy. 500 copies cost $25.00.

I'm getting these into Indian stores and into places of worship through friends.
Please do your part. You can see my signature RK at the bottom(just to let you know you will recognize that I did by end of today).
DO YOUR PART. ITS FOR EVERYONE.

deepakd
07-07-2012, 09:33 AM
Made a one time contribution of $100: Your receipt number for this payment is: 3029-1186-0673-4565.

Already have monthly contribution of $25 for next 6 months.

Robert Kumar
07-07-2012, 04:20 PM
Staples charges between 5c to 10 c for a copy. 500 copies cost $25.00.

I'm getting these into Indian stores and into places of worship through friends.
Please do your part. You can see my signature RK at the bottom(just to let you know you will recognize that I did by end of today).
DO YOUR PART. ITS FOR EVERYONE.

You can NOW see the posters in the three most crowded Indian grocery stores at Oak Tree, NJ in the same place when you find the free magazines.

Chandini
07-07-2012, 05:29 PM
I posted IV last week and left about 30 flyer. I just visited the temple and Indian store now.

All the flyer are taken and some of them even tore the Immigration voice website address so people are looking at my flyer. :-)

Good luck for each and every one of us.

kevin08
07-08-2012, 12:07 PM
Donated $25
Unique Transaction ID # 8LP3347979942522F

reddy531
07-08-2012, 11:16 PM
I am amazed to find people who are in EB3 and bitch about their greencard status atleast 10 times a day and still dont know about HR 3012. I am a relatively new to the topic as I didnt pay attention to the whole GC process until I became current this year...and have plans to go back to India anyway. Even I came to know about HR3012 while checking forums during I-485 filing. These guys are hardcore GC seekers and still dont know about HR 3012.

rdoib
07-09-2012, 08:05 AM
Reddy531 Can you please educate them about immigrationvoice and ask them to participate.

dts
07-10-2012, 10:00 AM
This thread does not appear in top list. Seems people are quiet again.
Let us keep this topic live, enthusiastic and hot.

madhu345
07-10-2012, 11:35 AM
everyone got tired:)

thomachan72
07-10-2012, 12:35 PM
everyone got tired:)
when everybody sees the visa bulletin, the tiredness will vanish!!

seahawks
07-10-2012, 12:47 PM
I have printed the posters and given it to my friends to post in grocery stores, apartment complexes and temples today. I will be doing the same today.

Thanks

pappu
07-10-2012, 12:50 PM
when everybody sees the visa bulletin, the tiredness will vanish!!

Its better to be a religious worker than a high skilled worker . :) The religious worker category is always current.

pappu
07-10-2012, 12:50 PM
I have printed the posters and given it to my friends to post in grocery stores, apartment complexes and temples today. I will be doing the same today.

Thanks

Thank you

checkmet64
07-10-2012, 12:55 PM
In addition to grocery stores, temples, the city halls are good locations too.

vsrinir
07-10-2012, 12:59 PM
Thank you

I did posted flyers at Grocery Stores, Temples.

My question: What is the use of posting flyers at indian grocery stores and temples.

How they ( our indian community ) supports our issue in congress?

We need to fucus on action items like what we did in 2007 " Flower campaign to Congress/President".

Please correct me if I am wrong.

bibliophile2020
07-10-2012, 01:00 PM
Its better to be a religious worker than a high skilled worker . :) The religious worker category is always current.

Ha ha ha... good one. Never thought about it. May be we should look for some part time work in the church.

gk_2000
07-10-2012, 01:04 PM
I did posted flyers at Grocery Stores, Temples.

My question: What is the use of posting flyers at indian grocery stores and temples.

How they ( our indian community ) supports our issue in congress?

We need to fucus on action items like what we did in 2007 " Flower campaign to Congress/President".

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Sir, you have a join date of 2006 and you are asking such a question. Shame on you

vsrinir
07-10-2012, 01:11 PM
Sir, you have a join date of 2006 and you are asking such a question. Shame on you

Thanks.

seahawks
07-10-2012, 01:19 PM
I did posted flyers at Grocery Stores, Temples.

My question: What is the use of posting flyers at indian grocery stores and temples.

How they ( our indian community ) supports our issue in congress?

We need to fucus on action items like what we did in 2007 " Flower campaign to Congress/President".

Please correct me if I am wrong.

The idea is to spread the message, I am amazed on the amount of people who are not aware of IV or the work IV is doing. We want all the support now, we need to gather all the like minded people in one place. Every time I talk to my friends who have not even filed their green cards or just started the process, they don't have any knowledge about their wait times and what can they do about it. They don't understand the consequences. Or they have a sense of feeling that their job will be forever and they can keep changing titles and growing in their company. The idea is to build awareness around these issues so that they know there is somebody who is working for them and be energized in working together for a common cause. IV today is well respected and are part of bring light to our issues. Imagine if there are hundred of thousands of members who can stand behind IV. If all of us are suffering from the current system, why not find more of them who are suffering too and get all of us unite under the IV platform?

thomachan72
07-10-2012, 01:33 PM
I did posted flyers at Grocery Stores, Temples.

My question: What is the use of posting flyers at indian grocery stores and temples.

How they ( our indian community ) supports our issue in congress?almost everybody has this very same question (will our desi community help us or would they even care?) so you are not alone. Our job is not to convince everybody to join our cause. We are looking for ways to bring in those folks who have not joined us yet either because they are totally not aware of IVs efforts or have been disinterested so far due to lack of belief in the possibility of success with the legislative process. The news of the success of the bill so far should not be confined within this community. Only massive public movements get some response from the senators/reps so we are doing our best to get more folks to join

We need to fucus on action items like what we did in 2007 " Flower campaign to Congress/President".flower campaign, as you said, has been used before when IV felt that it would help. Thats not the case now. Either way, even for a successful flower campaign we need more people to join our cause. few hundred people sending flowers will not do anything other than waste money

Please correct me if I am wrong.
Hopefully atleast a few people will pick up your flyers and visit our website. Dont underestimate the effect of these flyers/your calling etc. The whole process snowballs into something bigger gradually. Next time we put up flyers it will be noticed even more.

bpratap
07-10-2012, 01:48 PM
A suggestion.

Can we place these IV print outs in our car Glass / doors ? our cars will be mobile advertisement for IV's grass root efforts. what are the thought's around it ?

sukhwinderd
07-10-2012, 02:17 PM
attract indian/chinese and ROW alike. not sure I want to do that.


A suggestion.

Can we place these IV print outs in our car Glass / doors ? our cars will be mobile advertisement for IV's grass root efforts. what are the thought's around it ?

geve
07-10-2012, 02:21 PM
Its better to be a religious worker than a high skilled worker . :) The religious worker category is always current.

Pappu,

It is too late. Since 2000 we ( New temple, I am one of the Trustee.) sponsored 4 priests and all of them got their GC with in 2 years. Being a Vedic scholar is not easy too. I believe they deserver that.

vsrinir
07-10-2012, 02:33 PM
Hopefully atleast a few people will pick up your flyers and visit our website. Dont underestimate the effect of these flyers/your calling etc. The whole process snowballs into something bigger gradually. Next time we put up flyers it will be noticed even more.

Thank you very much for the time. I totally agree with you.

gk_2000 has replied me with out patience. One has to learn nice way of communication.

vsrinir
07-10-2012, 02:35 PM
Hopefully atleast a few people will pick up your flyers and visit our website. Dont underestimate the effect of these flyers/your calling etc. The whole process snowballs into something bigger gradually. Next time we put up flyers it will be noticed even more.

Thank you very much for the time. I totally agree with you.

gk_2000 has replied me with out patience. One has to learn good way of communication.

we are all here for the same cause. not for fighting between us.

dts
07-11-2012, 11:16 AM
Can't let thread down.

gk_2000
07-11-2012, 12:33 PM
Thank you very much for the time. I totally agree with you.

gk_2000 has replied me with out patience. One has to learn good way of communication.

we are all here for the same cause. not for fighting between us.

To clarify, your question seems to imply
- since desi guys are not in senate what is the use of telling them
- attack senate directly with flower campaign

This means that you don't know what IV has been doing since past many months (advocacy) and when I checked your join date it was way back in 2006. Hence my comment is justified

i_my_Voice
07-11-2012, 03:24 PM
Hold lifted now...:) sent $ 200.....Go IV!!!!!!!!

pappu
07-11-2012, 09:59 PM
First post here. Small contribution of $100.
Thanks a lot team IV for all the hard work, great job !!!

Thank you. Each contribution will help us put in more resources to inch closer to our goal of getting HR3012 passed. Please encourage your friends to join and support this effort asap. This is crunch time and we need all hands on the deck for support.

IndiaEB32003
07-11-2012, 10:11 PM
Just made a small contribution of $100
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 7E2316147T997950S

ivwizard
07-12-2012, 03:28 AM
Donated $100 for the cause. Transaction Id - 60245169FY999342F

smiles
07-17-2012, 10:47 AM
Posted more flyers in local stores... It was encouraging to see that most of the places already had flyers and HR3012 Wiki handouts in prominent places...

Guys, I think the wave has picked up and we're getting there.... Doing AI everyday, GO IV !!!

turvi76
07-17-2012, 12:04 PM
I am following senate sessions live online every day in anticipation of H.R. 3012 being brought up keeping my fingers crossed and wishing for the best.
Does anyone know how to look up senate calendar in advance for the future day(s)?

This two week period is super crucial to get the bill to vote before the lengthy august recess and it makes me very worried.

Done AI(emails) for today like every day. Go IV!

spicy_guy
07-17-2012, 12:20 PM
I am following senate sessions live online every day in anticipation of H.R. 3012 being brought up keeping my fingers crossed and wishing for the best.
Does anyone know how to look up senate calendar in advance for the future day(s)?

This two week period is super crucial to get the bill to vote before the lengthy august recess and it makes me very worried.

Done AI(emails) for today like every day. Go IV!

Unless we hear anything from IV core, I guess no one knows anything for sure.