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Administrator2
06-22-2012, 12:41 PM
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Update and Very Important Action Item
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Note - Round 1 of this campaign was completed with HUGE SUCCESS on June 26th, 2012. Second round of the campaign will be initiated soon. Please watch this space.

For past few months, we have been involved in the discussion to find a way to move forward HR3012.

With the leadership of Senator Schumer and Senator Grassley, earlier this week, the amendment to HR3012 was finalized. Every part and every letter of this amendment has been carefully vetted. We have been engaged in the amendment negotiation process right since the beginning and we know that this is a good amendment.

This amendment makes a very good bill even better. The amendment is balanced in a way where a small fraction of employers with more than 100 employees and 15% employees on H1 (L1/J1 is not part of 15%) visa will be audited. Again, the amendment is to audit employers (not employees). The amendment doesn't put any restriction on the employers or employees. We applaud Senator Schumer and Senator Grassley for this amendment.

As we all know, there are some bad employers out there who take advantage of the system. This amendment is designed to root out companies engaged in fraud or exploitation. A large number of coalition, trade groups and the entire large Hi-tech industry (you know all the large companies) is fully on-board with this amendment. The reason being, they are not afraid of audit, they do not have anything to hide, they don't game the system. These 200 companies are the good citizens of the non-immigrant and immigrant visa system.

Now we need your help to reach out to more companies, your employers, to sign this petition to the key Senators.

The deadline for signing this letter is now extended to 26th June.

Letter to Hi-Tech employers (To request Hi-Tech employers to sign the petition) (http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0)


Letter is attached.

Thank you everyone for your efforts and continued support.
Please contribute to IV if you have not done so this month. It is mission critical that we have enough resources to pull this bill through.

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/attachments/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/510d1340813403-update-action-item-hr3012-ask-your-employer-to-sign-this-petition-supporting-hr3012-tech-industry-letter-in-support-of-repealing-the-per-country-limit-jun-27-2012.pdf ("]Petition for Hi-Tech employers - (Petition to be signed by Hi-Tech employers and which will go to key lawmakers).


200 of the Top companies have already signed up this petition. We need more companies to sign up.

Needless to say, some lawyers or some group of lawyers are against this amendment. We believe that this fringe group has always advocated a system where immigrants are taken advantage off.

I understand that there never existed a civilized society in which one segment did not thrive upon the labor of another. From ancient times to biblical times to now, the so called “silicon age”. The basic tenants of one segment thriving upon the labor of another has not changed much. But this idea is totally contrary to a natural or inevitable phenomenon, a basic human concept called freedom, which is the first step towards innovation. The majority of innovations and inventions in the modern world were created and invented by free men post American Independence. These were men who were free to spend their energies on the own project or change/work for an employer of their choice. If the business of your employer directly or indirectly depends on innovation and technology, then your employer will appreciate you letting them know about these new developments about HR3012.

Some of these immigration Lawyers have chosen to be on the wrong side of history. They want to protect companies gaming the system. This set of immigration lawyers want to to take advantage of immigrants, siding with companies that under-cut US worker and commit fraud.

Its time for us to standup and speak for ourselves and tell everyone that immigration lawyers don't represent immigrant community. Immigration lawyers and their groups only represent their own special interest to design the system to keep more people in limbo for longer so that they can profit from decade long probationary status of immigrants.

Housing market is not about realtors; Housing market is about living the American Dream and home ownership. Likewise, the purpose of immigration system is not for immigration lawyers to pocket more cash. Immigration system is about America, US Employers and immigrants. Its time for us to raise our voice together and say it loud & clear, that immigration lawyer or their group doesn't represent immigrant community.

Ask your employer to stand on the right side of history and support a change for you, a change which has been long awaited. Ask your employer to do the right thing NOW!

Thank You,

Team IV

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Administrator2
06-22-2012, 12:44 PM
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OTHER PARALLEL ACTION ITEMS:
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There are thousands of people stuck in green card backlogs, long wait times, retreogresion but are still not aware of H.R3012 -Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act and the benefits it brings by way of fairness, first-come-first-serve approach due to removal of per country caps.
We have to inform all such people about the bill and about IV grass-roots initiatives which have brought the bill close to the finish line now so they can join in the grass-roots efforts.

Please focus on below AIs between June 30th through the 4th of July weekend.

1) Print out - (color printouts much preferred) multiple copies of the following fliers

http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/0/05/Needhelp_flier.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/b/b0/Thomachan_flier.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/e/ed/Turvi76_flier1.pdf
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/5/55/Turvi76_flier2_updated.pdf

2) Post the fliers - near all grocery stores, temples, theaters and other locations which are frequented by impacted/retrogressed EB applicants who will benefited by this initiative. Use your judgement wisely on where you post the fliers.

3) Caution - DO NOT post the fliers on USPS mailboxes, it is against the law.

4) Talk to your friends/acquaintances - Pick up the phone and call your friends, colleagues, acquaintances who are still not aware of this bill. Explain the importance of H.R 3012 - how it brings long-awaited fairness to the system and reduces wait times drastically for retrogressed EB applicants. Explain how the bill was passed overwhelmingly by the House and is very close to being passed by the Senate and signed into law. There is no better tool than talking to someone to make them aware of the importance of this legislation.

5) Forward Flier - Forward soft copies of the flier to your friends, contacts and have them post it at locations in their neighborhood where it will be effective.

6) Like, Comment positively and share our Facebook page and follow us on Twitter. We are also on Google+ now. IV member donquit has been managing this single-handedly, on your behalf and its time to help him spread the message in social media world.

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/#!/Support.HR3012
Twitter - http://twitter.com/support_hr_3012
http://twitter.com/Support_HR3012
Google+ - https://plus.google.com/109630183957372098398

We are very close to the finish line and are confident that H.R 3012 will be passed by Congress and signed into law very soon. Let us add more grassroots efforts now and be part of this historic legislative initiative. Immigration Voice requires all affected EB green card applicants - waiting for years to get a green card they deserve - to speak up, join this campaign and be counted.

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This is a big action item and we ask each person to get it done from their company managent. If there was something very important that could help our bill pass, this is it.

Please also spread awareness. Send the link to the thread to your friends. If you know anyone in media, send the link to them. We are ready for media interviews on this.

Lastly, if you do not have monthly subscription yet, or has expired, please do so ASAP. We need resources to pull through. It has been non stop work over past year and last few months were very hectic. We need all support we can get to put more rsources in getting this bill passed.
1. Yes, the signature for the petition should come from the authorized signatory
2. If you are contractor, you can contact your employer and you can speak with your client manager to consider signing the petition.
3. We have around 200 companies that have signed the letter. But we unable to publish that list yet. We recommend reaching out to your employer regardless asking them to sign the petition or voice your support for their positive actions to get the bill pass.

We have 200 companies till now. The list is not public yet. In the last few months we have been working. Nevertheless even if your company is say in the list, we want members to contact management anyways to show how much this bill means to them and that they need company's support.Do not wait to coordinate. Time is short. Each person has to do their part, More people contacting the management will only help this effort and show the company that many employees need support from the employer against fraud and unfairness.

Please also post links of this thread on several other immigration forums out there every once in a while to have more people know about this action item and remind them again if they have not taken part in it. If any site deletes it it will only mean they do not support this bill bringing fairness to the system and stopping fraud.
There is a like button at the bottom of the firstpost. Please click that to make it popular on facebook.

Please spread the word to all your friends .

Let's call up and email each friend, relative in USA and seek his help. It does not matter if they are citizens green card holders. All they Have to do is come to this thread and do action item.

Administrator2
06-22-2012, 12:44 PM
Hello ____________ (NAME OF HR VP/HEAD)

I work within ___________ (Organization Name) and report to ______.

My green card application applied by the company is pending with USCIS since ______.

I’m reaching out to find out if ________ is a member of a trade group called TechNet? The reason being, there is a bill pending before US Congress and if this bill becomes the law, it will benefit my pending application and the pending application of many other colleagues at ______ (NAME OF YOUR EMPLOYER). This bill is H.R.3012 and it passed the House of Representatives by 97% votes. Soon the bill is expected to come for vote in the Senate. H.R.3012 or Fairness for High-Skilled immigration could potentially reduce my green card wait times by many years.

Trade group - TechNet - is running a drive to gather support of large technology companies to sign a petition to US Senate to consider High-Skilled immigration bill called HR3012. Apparently, you could sign the petition supporting the bill even if we are not the members of TechNet. I learned that over 200 large tech companies (some of them listed here - Members | TechNet (http://www.technet.org/leaders/member-companies/)) have already signed expressing their support for the pending high-skilled immigration bill H.R.3012. It would be great if __________ (NAME OF YOUR EMPLOYER) will consider signing this petition to US Senate.

Here is a link to more information about the petition:

Information about Petition for H.R.3012 (http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0)

Here is the link to online petition:

Online Petition to the Senate
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFRxU3VLbld2QzVDTDVvTlNqSG1WN0E6M A#gid=0)
Thank you for looking into this and please let me know if you would like for me to research and send additional information your way.

YOUR NAME
TITLE
SUB-ORGANIZATION NAME

checkmet64
06-22-2012, 01:00 PM
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Update and Very Important Action Item
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For past few months, we have been involved in the discussion to find a way to move forward HR3012.

With the leadership of Senator Schumer and Senator Grassley, earlier this week, the amendment to HR3012 was finalized. Every part and every letter of this amendment has been carefully vetted. We have been engaged in the amendment negotiation process right since and beginning the we know that this is a good amendment.

This amendment makes a very good bill even better. The amendment is balanced in a way where a small fraction of employers with more than 100 employees and 15% employees on H1 (L1/J1 is not part of 15%) visa will be audited. Again, the amendment is to audit employers (not employees). The amendment doesn't put any restriction on the employers or employees.

As we all know, there are some bad employers out there who take advantage of the system. This amendment is designed to root out companies engaged in fraud or exploitation. A large number of coalition, trade groups and the entire large Hi-tech industry (you know all the large companies) is fully on-board with this amendment. The reason being, they are not afraid of audit, they do not have anything to hide, they don't game the system. These 200 companies are the good citizens of the non-immigrant and immigrant visa system.

Now we need your help to reach out to more companies, your employers, to sign this petition to the key Senators. The deadline for signing this letter is now extended to 26th June.

Letter to Hi-Tech employers (http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0)


Petition for Hi-Tech employers (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFRxU3VLbld2QzVDTDVvTlNqSG1WN0E6M A#gid=0)


200 of the Top companies have already signed up this petition. We need more companies to sign up.

Needless to say, some lawyers or some group of lawyers are against this amendment. We believe that this fringe group has always advocated a system where immigrants are taken advantage off.

I understand that there never existed a civilized society in which one segment did not thrive upon the labor of another. From ancient times to biblical times to now, the so called “silicon age”. The basic tenants of one segment did not thrive upon the labor of another has not changed as much. But this idea or supposedly a natural or inevitable phenomenon is totally contrary to the basic human concept of freedom, which is the first step towards innovation. If your employer business directly or indirectly depends on innovation and technology, then your employer will appreciate you letting them know about this development.

Its time for us to standup and speak for ourselves and tell everyone that immigration lawyers don't represent immigrants. Immigration lawyers and their groups only represent their own special interest to design the system to keep more people in limbo for longer so that they can pocket more money. Housing market is not about realtors; Housing market is about living the American Dream and home ownership. Likewise, the purpose of immigration system is not for Immigration lawyers to pocket more cash. Immigration system is about America, US Employers and immigrants. Its time for us to raise our voice and say it loud, that immigration lawyer or their group doesn't represent Immigrants.

Ask your employer to stand on the right side of history and support a change for you, a change which has been long awaited. Ask your employer to do the right thing NOW!

Thank You,

Team IV

This is real action !!

forever_waiting
06-22-2012, 01:02 PM
Awesome!! I knew IV was working hard all along to make HR3012 a reality!.
Forwarding letter to my employer right now and requesting them to sign the petition! Let us get this done. For fairness and for justice in the EB green card system.
No high skilled immigrant should have to wait for decades to get a green card!

checkmet64
06-22-2012, 01:03 PM
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Update and Very Important Action Item
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For past few months, we have been involved in the discussion to find a way to move forward HR3012.

With the leadership of Senator Schumer and Senator Grassley, earlier this week, the amendment to HR3012 was finalized. Every part and every letter of this amendment has been carefully vetted. We have been engaged in the amendment negotiation process right since and beginning the we know that this is a good amendment.

This amendment makes a very good bill even better. The amendment is balanced in a way where a small fraction of employers with more than 100 employees and 15% employees on H1 (L1/J1 is not part of 15%) visa will be audited. Again, the amendment is to audit employers (not employees). The amendment doesn't put any restriction on the employers or employees.

As we all know, there are some bad employers out there who take advantage of the system. This amendment is designed to root out companies engaged in fraud or exploitation. A large number of coalition, trade groups and the entire large Hi-tech industry (you know all the large companies) is fully on-board with this amendment. The reason being, they are not afraid of audit, they do not have anything to hide, they don't game the system. These 200 companies are the good citizens of the non-immigrant and immigrant visa system.

Now we need your help to reach out to more companies, your employers, to sign this petition to the key Senators. The deadline for signing this letter is now extended to 26th June.

Letter to Hi-Tech employers (http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0)


Petition for Hi-Tech employers (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFRxU3VLbld2QzVDTDVvTlNqSG1WN0E6M A#gid=0)


200 of the Top companies have already signed up this petition. We need more companies to sign up.

Needless to say, some lawyers or some group of lawyers are against this amendment. We believe that this fringe group has always advocated a system where immigrants are taken advantage off.

I understand that there never existed a civilized society in which one segment did not thrive upon the labor of another. From ancient times to biblical times to now, the so called “silicon age”. The basic tenants of one segment did not thrive upon the labor of another has not changed as much. But this idea or supposedly a natural or inevitable phenomenon is totally contrary to the basic human concept of freedom, which is the first step towards innovation. If your employer business directly or indirectly depends on innovation and technology, then your employer will appreciate you letting them know about this development.

Its time for us to standup and speak for ourselves and tell everyone that immigration lawyers don't represent immigrants. Immigration lawyers and their groups only represent their own special interest to design the system to keep more people in limbo for longer so that they can pocket more money. Housing market is not about realtors; Housing market is about living the American Dream and home ownership. Likewise, the purpose of immigration system is not for Immigration lawyers to pocket more cash. Immigration system is about America, US Employers and immigrants. Its time for us to raise our voice and say it loud, that immigration lawyer or their group doesn't represent Immigrants.

Ask your employer to stand on the right side of history and support a change for you, a change which has been long awaited. Ask your employer to do the right thing NOW!

Thank You,

Team IV

Admin,

The petion that you forwarded says "tech" industry. Does is apply to biotech as well?

h1techSlave
06-22-2012, 01:04 PM
Me and a few of our friends are taking it up with our employers.

The deadline is 26th, right?

Administrator2
06-22-2012, 01:07 PM
Admin,

The petion that you forwarded says "tech" industry. Does is apply to biotech as well?

It applies to any employer who cares for innovation. As we said, the first step to innovation is free thinking and freedom. HR3012 is about Fairness of high-skilled immigration. If your employer is Bio-Tech, this petition is very much applicable.

Thank You!

checkmet64
06-22-2012, 01:10 PM
It applies to any employer who cares for innovation. As we said, the first step to innovation is free thinking and freedom. HR3012 is about Fairness of high-skilled immigration. If your employer is Bio-Tech, this petition is very much applicable.

Thank You!

Thanks for the clarification. I will take to our HR for discussion.

gk_2000
06-22-2012, 01:13 PM
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Update and Very Important Action Item
--------------------------------------------------------

For past few months, we have been involved in the discussion to find a way to move forward HR3012.

With the leadership of Senator Schumer and Senator Grassley, earlier this week, the amendment to HR3012 was finalized. Every part and every letter of this amendment has been carefully vetted. We have been engaged in the amendment negotiation process right since and beginning the we know that this is a good amendment.

This amendment makes a very good bill even better. The amendment is balanced in a way where a small fraction of employers with more than 100 employees and 15% employees on H1 (L1/J1 is not part of 15%) visa will be audited. Again, the amendment is to audit employers (not employees). The amendment doesn't put any restriction on the employers or employees.

As we all know, there are some bad employers out there who take advantage of the system. This amendment is designed to root out companies engaged in fraud or exploitation. A large number of coalition, trade groups and the entire large Hi-tech industry (you know all the large companies) is fully on-board with this amendment. The reason being, they are not afraid of audit, they do not have anything to hide, they don't game the system. These 200 companies are the good citizens of the non-immigrant and immigrant visa system.

Now we need your help to reach out to more companies, your employers, to sign this petition to the key Senators.

The deadline for signing this letter is now extended to 26th June.

Letter to Hi-Tech employers (To request Hi-Tech employers to sign the petition) (http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0)


Petition for Hi-Tech employers - (Petition to be signed by Hi-Tech employers and which will go to key lawmakers). (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFRxU3VLbld2QzVDTDVvTlNqSG1WN0E6M A#gid=0)


200 of the Top companies have already signed up this petition. We need more companies to sign up.

Needless to say, some lawyers or some group of lawyers are against this amendment. We believe that this fringe group has always advocated a system where immigrants are taken advantage off.

I understand that there never existed a civilized society in which one segment did not thrive upon the labor of another. From ancient times to biblical times to now, the so called “silicon age”. The basic tenants of one segment did not thrive upon the labor of another has not changed as much. But this idea or supposedly a natural or inevitable phenomenon is totally contrary to the basic human concept of freedom, which is the first step towards innovation. If your employer business directly or indirectly depends on innovation and technology, then your employer will appreciate you letting them know about this development.

Its time for us to standup and speak for ourselves and tell everyone that immigration lawyers don't represent immigrants. Immigration lawyers and their groups only represent their own special interest to design the system to keep more people in limbo for longer so that they can pocket more money. Housing market is not about realtors; Housing market is about living the American Dream and home ownership. Likewise, the purpose of immigration system is not for Immigration lawyers to pocket more cash. Immigration system is about America, US Employers and immigrants. Its time for us to raise our voice and say it loud, that immigration lawyer or their group doesn't represent Immigrants.

Ask your employer to stand on the right side of history and support a change for you, a change which has been long awaited. Ask your employer to do the right thing NOW!

Thank You,

Team IV

Did that. Will share with other/previous employers tonight..

Suva
06-22-2012, 01:16 PM
Thanks IV for working hard on this. I would forward this action item to my friends to let their employers know.

Robert Kumar
06-22-2012, 01:18 PM
It applies to any employer who cares for innovation. As we said, the first step to innovation is free thinking and freedom. HR3012 is about Fairness of high-skilled immigration. If your employer is Bio-Tech, this petition is very much applicable.

Thank You!

THANK YOU SO MUCH, ALL Credit goes to IV leadership.

I'm on it, passing this to my employer.

flthere
06-22-2012, 01:23 PM
Thanks for the initiative IV .. I just forwarded it to my employer as well.

amulchandra
06-22-2012, 01:35 PM
Done

Amul

thomachan72
06-22-2012, 01:41 PM
Done

Amul
Amul pls make sure they sign it when you get time. Those among us who have a good shot at gettting this signed "SHOULD WITHOUT FAIL" help out with this AI.
I am forwarding to few of my friend now. My comp is biotech with an HR very difficult to convince but will certainly try today itself.
Best of luck everybody. This is it!!!!!!!!

gk_2000
06-22-2012, 01:41 PM
Letter format, for all your high-ranking contacts:

Subject: Reaching out for your health and support
Content below:

Hi

How are you?

I want to ask you for an important favor, if you believe that your company is a reputable employer and wish the best for its employees, especially immigrant employees

Can you pass this around thru your contacts to get yours and as many other companies signed up as possible?

http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0

Thanks

gk_2000
06-22-2012, 01:43 PM
Letter format, for all your high-ranking contacts:

Subject: Reaching out for your health and support
Content below:

Hi

How are you?

I want to ask you for an important favor, if you believe that your company is a reputable employer and wish the best for its employees, especially immigrant employees

Can you pass this around thru your contacts to get yours and as many other companies signed up as possible?

http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0

Thanks

oops! not health -- help :)

srikant9
06-22-2012, 01:45 PM
Done - 3 companies submitted so far from my side..

amulchandra
06-22-2012, 01:45 PM
Amul pls make sure they sign it when you get time. Those among us who have a good shot at gettting this signed "SHOULD WITHOUT FAIL" help out with this AI.
I am forwarding to few of my friend now. My comp is biotech with an HR very difficult to convince but will certainly try today itself.
Best of luck everybody. This is it!!!!!!!!

Yes I will. I will talk to my HR. Actually I just walked into his office but he is not at his desk. I will get this signed.

checkmet64
06-22-2012, 01:46 PM
Will reply back with end result.

amitjoey
06-22-2012, 01:50 PM
I am not in HI-TECH, I am in design-construction. Nonetheless, will get it signed.

Gravitation
06-22-2012, 01:59 PM
Signed it for my own company.

mugembo
06-22-2012, 02:01 PM
Completed AI. Spoke to my employer and he agreed to support the bill.

Thanks IV for all the hardwork.

Signed it for my own company.

dhirajs98
06-22-2012, 02:19 PM
I completed on behalf of my company.

greyhair
06-22-2012, 02:31 PM
I completed on behalf of my company.

Did you see that on the page where you sign the petition, it says -

"By checking this box I acknowledge that my company's name and location of its headquarters can appear on this letter to the Senate. I also acknowledge that I have the authority to take this action."

Are you authorized to sign on behalf of your company? I suggest speaking with the HR first.

I work for Accenture so I've already sent the request to Sr. VP of HR. Are there more people from Accenture on this forum? It will help if more employees of Accenture will send in the request to HR.

DallasBlue
06-22-2012, 02:32 PM
if you have contacts or work in any of these companies , please fwd it there

Amgen Inc
Blue Cross/Blue Shield
Berkshire Hathaway
Winston & Strawn
Vern Clark & Assoc
Williams & Jensen
American Health Care Assn
American Physical Therapy Assn
Wine & Spirits Wholesalers of America
New York Life Insurance
American Podiatric Medical Assn
American Hospital Assn
American Optometric Assn
NextEra Energy
Verizon Communications
Northwestern Mutual
Metlife Inc
National Assn of Home Builders
National Assn of Realtors
Leon Medical Centers

DallasBlue
06-22-2012, 02:38 PM
Simmons Cooper LLC
Comcast Corp
Weitz & Luxenberg
Girardi & Keese
Caesars Entertainment
Blackstone Group
JPMorgan Chase & Co
AT&T Inc
Law Offices of Peter G Angelos
Station Casinos
Apollo Advisors
Newmont Mining
National Cable & Telecommunications Assn
Baron & Budd
FMR Corp
WPP Group
Akin, Gump et al
Barrick Gold Corp
Boyd Gaming

DallasBlue
06-22-2012, 02:44 PM
Simmons Cooper LLC
CME Group
Citigroup Inc
MacAndrews & Forbes
Paul, Weiss et al
United Continental Holdings
AMR Corp
Mayer Brown LLP
University of Chicago
Kasowitz, Benson et al
Kirkland & Ellis
Motorola Solutions
State of Illinois
Madison Dearborn Partners
Sidley Austin LLP
Corboy & Demetrio
William Blair & Co
Renco Group
Thornton & Naumes
McKool Smith PC

dhakaldoo
06-22-2012, 03:10 PM
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Update and Very Important Action Item
--------------------------------------------------------

For past few months, we have been involved in the discussion to find a way to move forward HR3012.

With the leadership of Senator Schumer and Senator Grassley, earlier this week, the amendment to HR3012 was finalized. Every part and every letter of this amendment has been carefully vetted. We have been engaged in the amendment negotiation process right since the beginning and we know that this is a good amendment.

This amendment makes a very good bill even better. The amendment is balanced in a way where a small fraction of employers with more than 100 employees and 15% employees on H1 (L1/J1 is not part of 15%) visa will be audited. Again, the amendment is to audit employers (not employees). The amendment doesn't put any restriction on the employers or employees.

As we all know, there are some bad employers out there who take advantage of the system. This amendment is designed to root out companies engaged in fraud or exploitation. A large number of coalition, trade groups and the entire large Hi-tech industry (you know all the large companies) is fully on-board with this amendment. The reason being, they are not afraid of audit, they do not have anything to hide, they don't game the system. These 200 companies are the good citizens of the non-immigrant and immigrant visa system.

Now we need your help to reach out to more companies, your employers, to sign this petition to the key Senators.

The deadline for signing this letter is now extended to 26th June.

Letter to Hi-Tech employers (To request Hi-Tech employers to sign the petition) (http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0)


Petition for Hi-Tech employers - (Petition to be signed by Hi-Tech employers and which will go to key lawmakers). (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFRxU3VLbld2QzVDTDVvTlNqSG1WN0E6M A#gid=0)


200 of the Top companies have already signed up this petition. We need more companies to sign up.

Needless to say, some lawyers or some group of lawyers are against this amendment. We believe that this fringe group has always advocated a system where immigrants are taken advantage off.

I understand that there never existed a civilized society in which one segment did not thrive upon the labor of another. From ancient times to biblical times to now, the so called “silicon age”. The basic tenants of one segment thriving upon the labor of another has not changed as much. But this idea or supposedly a natural or inevitable phenomenon is totally contrary to the basic human concept, and that concept is called freedom, which is the first step towards innovation. If your employer's business directly or indirectly depends on innovation and technology, then your employer will appreciate you letting them know about this development.

Immigration Lawyers have chosen to side with wrong side of history. They want to protect companies gaming the system. This set of Immigration lawyers want to side with companies that are under-cutting US worker and committing fraud.

Its time for us to standup and speak for ourselves and tell everyone that immigration lawyers don't represent immigrants. Immigration lawyers and their groups only represent their own special interest to design the system to keep more people in limbo for longer so that they can pocket more money.

Housing market is not about realtors; Housing market is about living the American Dream and home ownership. Likewise, the purpose of immigration system is not for Immigration lawyers to pocket more cash. Immigration system is about America, US Employers and immigrants. Its time for us to raise our voice and say it loud, that immigration lawyer or their group doesn't represent Immigrants.

Ask your employer to stand on the right side of history and support a change for you, a change which has been long awaited. Ask your employer to do the right thing NOW!

Thank You,

Team IV

Couple of questions,

1.The letter HAS to come from HR correct?
2.Do contract house count as employer?
3.If I see that name of my employer appears in the completed list posted by some members, do I still get a sign by my local office HR?

Thanks.

mahujam
06-22-2012, 03:13 PM
Spoke to HR and she will forward to the legal team for review. Lets see if they respond.

Thanks IV for sticking through with it. Much appreciated.

Robert Kumar
06-22-2012, 03:15 PM
Couple of questions,

1.The letter HAS to come from HR correct?
2.Do contract house count as employer?
3.If I see that name of my employer appears in the completed list posted by some members, do I still get a sign by my local office HR?

Thanks.

Just do it Yaar. Dont think too much...And pass it to your friends..

gotgc?
06-22-2012, 03:22 PM
I just contacted my company:


Thanks for your note.

Oracle's Gov't Affairs group has been very actively involved in all discussions and negotiations on this legislation and has weighed in steadily in support of it.

Oracle Gov't Affairs has also received TechNet's email requesting sign-on to the below letter and will take action as they deem appropriate.

pappu
06-22-2012, 03:23 PM
This is a big action item and we ask each person to get it done from their company managent. If there was something very important that could help our bill pass, this is it.

Please also spread awareness. Send the link to the thread to your friends. If you know anyone in media, send the link to them. We are ready for media interviews on this.

Lastly, if you do not have monthly subscription yet, or has expired, please do so ASAP. We need resources to pull through. It has been non stop work over past year and last few months were very hectic. We need all support we can get to put more rsources in getting this bill passed.

Administrator2
06-22-2012, 03:28 PM
Couple of questions,

1.The letter HAS to come from HR correct?
2.Do contract house count as employer?
3.If I see that name of my employer appears in the completed list posted by some members, do I still get a sign by my local office HR?

Thanks.

1. Yes, the signature for the petition should come from the authorized signatory
2. If you are contractor, you can contact your employer and you can speak with your client manager to consider signing the petition.
3. We have around 200 companies that have signed the letter. But we unable to publish that list yet. We recommend reaching out to your employer regardless asking them to sign the petition or voice your support for their positive actions to get the bill pass.

pappu
06-22-2012, 03:28 PM
Completed AI. Spoke to my employer and he agreed to support the bill.

Thanks IV for all the hardwork.

Thank you.

DallasBlue
06-22-2012, 03:30 PM
Citigroup Inc
KKR & Co
McKesson Corp
American Express
US Oncology
Taco Bell
Marwood Group
Blackstone Group
Wells Real Estate Funds
Raytheon Co
American Assn/Oral & Maxillofacial Surg
Amgen Inc
Tacala LLC
Blue Cross/Blue Shield
CC Media Holdings
Aetna Inc
American Seniors Housing Assn
AT&T Inc
Bluegrass Cmte
Cardinal Health
Covington & Burling
Federation of American Hospitals
Financial Services Roundtable
Google Inc
Hercules Holding
HJ Heinz Co
Life Technologies Corp
LifePoint Hospitals
Major League Baseball Commissioner's Ofc
Mednax Inc
Physician Hospitals of America
Praxair Inc
Property Casualty Insurers Assn/America
Renew America PAC
TACO PAC
Vanguard Health Systems

DallasBlue
06-22-2012, 03:37 PM
EMILY's List
Microsoft Corp
University of Washington
Boeing Co
Weyerhaeuser Co
Amazon.com
K&L Gates
State of Washington
Amgen Inc
Moveon.org
United Continental Holdings
League of Conservation Voters
Denny Miller Assoc
Second Avenue Partners
McBee Strategic Consulting
Perkins Coie
Carnival Corp
Puget Holding Co
Bergman, Draper & Frockt
Strategies 360

pappu
06-22-2012, 03:41 PM
Couple of questions,

1.The letter HAS to come from HR correct?
2.Do contract house count as employer?
3.If I see that name of my employer appears in the completed list posted by some members, do I still get a sign by my local office HR?

Thanks.

The list cannot be made available yet. But we have 200 companies till now In the last few months we have been working. Nevertheless even if your company is say in the list, we want members to contact management anyways to show how much this bill means to them and that they need company's support.

DallasBlue
06-22-2012, 03:48 PM
Baker, Donelson et al
Hercules Holding
Psychiatric Solutions
Regions Financial
Waller, Lansden et al
Pilot Corp
Southeast Financial Group
UBS AG
Eastman Chemical
Corrections Corp of America
FedEx Corp
Community Health Systems
Jones Management Services
Vanderbilt University
State of Tennessee
Ingram Industries
UST Inc
O'Melveny & Myers
Microsoft Corp
AutoZone Inc
CSX Corp
GlaxoSmithKline
Valero Energy

checkmet64
06-22-2012, 03:50 PM
This is a big action item and we ask each person to get it done from their company managent. If there was something very important that could help our bill pass, this is it.

Please also spread awareness. Send the link to the thread to your friends. If you know anyone in media, send the link to them. We are ready for media interviews on this.

Lastly, if you do not have monthly subscription yet, or has expired, please do so ASAP. We need resources to pull through. It has been non stop work over past year and last few months were very hectic. We need all support we can get to put more rsources in getting this bill passed.

Currently there are some 300 users browsing through this thread and still no new recurring contributions. This is real action for those who had been waiting on sidelines!! Please step up to the plate if you have been waiting. Life does not get any real than that. Each one of us has a chance to be a part of the history and those don't come by often !!

DallasBlue
06-22-2012, 03:51 PM
Exxon Mobil
USAA
JPMorgan Chase & Co
Contran Corp
Haynes & Boone
Locke Lord Bissell & Liddell LLP
McKool Smith PC
State of Texas
Zachry Construction
Lockheed Martin
HBK Capital Management
Cooper Industries
Blank Rome LLP
Bracewell & Giuliani
Mach Industrial Group
Centex Corp
Bass Brothers Enterprises
Baker Botts LLP
L&F Distributors
Silver Eagle Distributors

pappu
06-22-2012, 03:56 PM
Currently there are some 300 users browsing through this thread and still no new recurring contributions. This is real action for those who had been waiting on sidelines!! Please step up to the plate if you have been waiting. Life does not get any real than that. Each one of us has a chance to be a part of the history and those don't come by often !!

Thank you. Let us keep reminding everyone by quoting the post every few hurs. Time is short and we need a lot done ASAP. We need all support we can get.

nosightofgc
06-22-2012, 04:02 PM
Thank you. Let us keep reminding everyone by quoting the post every few hurs. Time is short and we need a lot done ASAP. We need all support we can get.

Here you go: trying to setup up the recurring contributions for a while - but paypal is pain. Finally I found a credit card which I did not use for paypal before and an email id to setup the payment.

Subscription Details

Subscription#S-7LN916547H063043P

jimmar
06-22-2012, 04:03 PM
Sent a request to my company HR (Fortune 500/Healthcare), waiting for the response. I will post the status here as soon i get the response.

nosightofgc
06-22-2012, 04:04 PM
And also I sent it my friends already. I work for a big financial company and I am afraid that they don't support me in this, but in case I sent a note to our internal person who deals with immigration issues.

DallasBlue
06-22-2012, 04:06 PM
please contact the companies I have posted above,(I couldnot post all at once) , they do spend a lot of monies for lobbying and have great influence in senate

checkmet64
06-22-2012, 04:11 PM
Here you go: trying to setup up the recurring contributions for a while - but paypal is pain. Finally I found a credit card which I did not use for paypal before and an email id to setup the payment.

Subscription Details

Subscription#S-7LN916547H063043P

Thanks. I have experienced the pain of paypal myself. Those who are postponing contributions due to paypal pain, please write checks, put them in the post box and post truthfully here that you did so and how much you did. We need to come forward together in all ways possible.

Lets all promise to ourselves- In next 48 hrs, each one of us will dig deep in our pockets and one more time contribute what we can.

stillhopegc
06-22-2012, 04:13 PM
6 month subscription at 50 dollars. Will add more next month.

Paid using paypal S-2GF63911TX9393xxx

Thanks IV. Our last hope for our lost hope.

pappu
06-22-2012, 04:13 PM
And also I sent it my friends already. I work for a big financial company and I am afraid that they don't support me in this, but in case I sent a note to our internal person who deals with immigration issues.

If a company refuses to sign send us a private message or send email to IV. The only reason someone will not sign it is if they support fraudand unfairness or some other reason. Once we have a list of such companies, we will take our next action. But do not post such names on the thread. It needs to be kept private for us to review.

puding
06-22-2012, 04:16 PM
Signed up for 6 month contribution of $25. Subscription details - S-56W52425CG053301B

Good luck folks.

pappu
06-22-2012, 04:19 PM
Signed up for 6 month contribution of $25. Subscription details - S-56W52425CG053301B

Good luck folks.

Thank you very much. Please spread the word to all your friends this weekend.

Let's make full use of this weekend to call up and email each friend, relative in USA and seek his help. It does not matter if they are citizens green card holders. All they ave to do is come to this thread and do action item.

rgulatius
06-22-2012, 04:23 PM
Initiated the process with company HR we will be going as a group, explain about HR3012 with new amendment and request their support.

Was a recurring member till April 2012. Couple of days back donated another $100 for the cause.Good luck to all!

checkmet64
06-22-2012, 04:28 PM
Thanks. I have experienced the pain of paypal myself. Those who are postponing contributions due to paypal pain, please write checks, put them in the post box and post truthfully here that you did so and how much you did. We need to come forward together in all ways possible.

Lets all promise to ourselves- In next 48 hrs, each one of us will dig deep in our pockets and one more time contribute what we can.

As the contributions have started to trickle in, the user number is constantly decreasing. I hope that everyone is going out to mail their checks..!!:)

praskar
06-22-2012, 04:47 PM
Done - my company is ALL IN. This is such FABULOUS news innit?

velagale
06-22-2012, 04:48 PM
Any link to the amendment ? I want to take a look at it.

checkmet64
06-22-2012, 05:00 PM
People still seem reluctant to make contribution at this time. What happened to all the people who were craving for updates, who were getting nightmares. If the bill doesnot get through from this point on we will have OURSELVES TO BLAME. IV has made repeated requests for contributions and so many of us have given it a pass. We can not expect things to magically change without effort and advocacy and all that requires support. Please grab this opportunity and show your commitment.

hello
06-22-2012, 05:06 PM
People still seem reluctant to make contribution at this time. What happened to all the people who were craving for updates, who were getting nightmares. If the bill doesnot get through from this point on we will have OURSELVES TO BLAME. IV has made repeated requests for contributions and so many of us have given it a pass. We can not expect things to magically change without effort and advocacy and all that requires support. Please grab this opportunity and show your commitment.

They have moved to the shell.Talking and actually doing something is two different things.

coopheal
06-22-2012, 05:06 PM
Contacted my company.

Thanks IV

hello
06-22-2012, 05:09 PM
Here you go: trying to setup up the recurring contributions for a while - but paypal is pain. Finally I found a credit card which I did not use for paypal before and an email id to setup the payment.

Subscription Details

Subscription#S-7LN916547H063043PThank ou!

hello
06-22-2012, 05:12 PM
6 month subscription at 50 dollars. Will add more next month.

Paid using paypal S-2GF63911TX9393xxx

Thanks IV. Our last hope for our lost hope.
Thank You!

spulugur
06-22-2012, 05:13 PM
Hi guys. Can one of you post the letter sent to HR on this topic? I work for a big financial firm and the email I send is likely forward to a few people and so want to send a good one. Thanks in advance.

RDS
06-22-2012, 05:25 PM
Contributed via PayPal for $100/- in addition to my monthly subscription.
Probably we need major 'funds drive' for driving these activities in short time.

dts
06-22-2012, 05:58 PM
Thank you very much. Please spread the word to all your friends this weekend.

Let's make full use of this weekend to call up and email each friend, relative in USA and seek his help. It does not matter if they are citizens green card holders. All they ave to do is come to this thread and do action item.

Friends,
Use this weekend to call friends , relatives , employers to be active on Action item .
Already called 5 friends who lost hope for bill.
Many frustrated friends left from here.
Get them on back with full energy.
Let us build up momentum more than Nov 30.
We are almost there . Let's give final push with full enthusiasm .

indrachat_75
06-22-2012, 06:29 PM
Great Job IV !! Hope to see success soon.

You sent a payment of $100.00 USD to Immigration Voice.
Jun 22, 2012 16:36:27 PDT
Receipt No:4312-7032-6076-2830

Thanks
Indra

sripk
06-22-2012, 07:02 PM
Made 100 dollar donation. Thanks IV for your continued efforts to get this bill tabled in the congress and passed!

Transaction ID:
1A652417R4008891S

I have a question on how to coordinate AI with others working for same company. I work for a big company and I bet there are many from same company who are on this list. Does it make sense to coordinate instead of each one of us talking to HR about same thing? Please advise.

digital2k
06-22-2012, 07:09 PM
Subscription Number: S-161437014G057690B
$50.00 USD for each month, for 6 installments

shekhar_shashi
06-22-2012, 07:19 PM
Contacted my manager this evening. He is on board with HR3012 and forwarded my message to HR. Waiting for HR's response. I am fairly confident my company will sign the petition on Monday. I'll stay on top of this and post an update on Monday.

Contributed $100 this evening in addition to monthly recurring contributions.

Contacted few other friends and requested them to ask their employers to sign the petition. I'll make a few phone calls this weekend and try to spread the word.

Good job IV!!

checkmet64
06-22-2012, 07:26 PM
Currently there are some 300 users browsing through this thread and still no new recurring contributions. This is real action for those who had been waiting on sidelines!! Please step up to the plate if you have been waiting. Life does not get any real than that. Each one of us has a chance to be a part of the history and those don't come by often !!

Thanks to everyone who has just contributed in response to IVs latest action items. But we need more. Everyone, please show that you care !!

coopheal
06-22-2012, 07:32 PM
Contacted my company.

Thanks IV

Petition signed by my company.

rock581
06-22-2012, 07:53 PM
Talked with desi colleagues and sent the following email to the HR. The HR signed the petitioned within 10 mins.

************************************************** *********************
Subj : Petition to Senate

Hi xxx,

This is an important petition to Senators on behalf of all the major tech companies to create an equitable distribution of employment-related green cards. This bill has already passed the House and is coming up in Senate. I would like our company to support it and sign the petition.

To sign the petition, follow this link. You will also find more details here. You can also contact any one in cc list or me if you need more information.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFRxU3VLbld2QzVDTDVvTlNqSG1WN0E6M A#gid=0

Thanks,
YYYY

praskar
06-22-2012, 08:08 PM
So guys, as mentioned I've got my company on board, but I'm not quite I follow the roadmap. So is the idea to get a lot of companies to sign up for this, show it to Grassley, he lifts the hold and it passes in Senate?

checkmet64
06-22-2012, 08:21 PM
So guys, as mentioned I've got my company on board, but I'm not quite I follow the roadmap. So is the idea to get a lot of companies to sign up for this, show it to Grassley, he lifts the hold and it passes in Senate?

Thanks for your effort. Let's not worry about the roadmap right now. Let IV work on that for now. The bill has come so far, lets contribute to facilitate further efforts.

pappu
06-22-2012, 08:38 PM
There is a like button at the bottom of the firstpost. Please click that to make it popular on facebook.

ravikanthe
06-22-2012, 08:41 PM
Just signed up for 6 months $25 contribution
S-8FN56527BJ372654G

pappu
06-22-2012, 08:43 PM
Made 100 dollar donation. Thanks IV for your continued efforts to get this bill tabled in the congress and passed!

Transaction ID:
1A652417R4008891S

I have a question on how to coordinate AI with others working for same company. I work for a big company and I bet there are many from same company who are on this list. Does it make sense to coordinate instead of each one of us talking to HR about same thing? Please advise.

Do not wait to coordinate. Time is short. Each person has to do their part, More people contacting the management will only help this effort and show the company that many employees need support from the employer against fraud and unfairness.

turvi76
06-22-2012, 08:57 PM
Forwarded action item - petition letter to my employer, my ex employer and other friends/entrepreneurs who run small businesses. Will follow up with each one on Monday to make sure this gets done!

$100 contributed to IV. Go IV!

The Alchemist
06-22-2012, 08:58 PM
For people looking for the LATEST ACTION ITEM posted by IV Core click on the link below

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum16-iv-agenda-and-legislative-updates/3041365-action-item-ask-your-employer-to-sign-this-petition-supporting-hr3012.html#post3500582

You can also follow us on Twitter and Facebook by clicking on the links in the signature below.

And as always, please spread the word around...consider this to be a "ALL HANDS ON DECK" call.

To Donate - click here Immigration Voice - PayPal Donate (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/misc.php?do=donate)

sharmagaurav
06-22-2012, 08:58 PM
Good Work IV. Just donated for this cause through Paypal.

Thank you

sharmagaurav
06-22-2012, 09:00 PM
Date of sign up: Jun 22, 2012
Subscription Name: Donation to Support Immigration Voice (User: sharmagaurav)
Subscription Number: S-0U331444DD1683617

pappu
06-22-2012, 09:02 PM
Forwarded action item - petition letter to my employer, my ex employer and other friends/entrepreneurs who run small businesses. Will follow up with each one on Monday to make sure this gets done!

$100 contributed to IV. Go IV!

Thanks.

pappu
06-22-2012, 09:06 PM
Please also post links of this thread on several other immigration forums out there every once in a while to have more people know about this action item and remind them again if they have not taken part in it. If any site deletes it it will only mean they do not support this bill bringing fairness to the system and stopping fraud.

CaliHoneB
06-22-2012, 09:19 PM
I contributed $200.00 for this efforts
Tr ID # 48133804U33859401

Cheers

Kugr
06-22-2012, 09:40 PM
Just subscribed for 6 monthly payements of $25.
Subcription number# 8GR31118Y1138392T

Also confirmed with my employer that they are already supporting the petition.

pappu
06-22-2012, 09:43 PM
Just subscribed for 6 monthly payements of $25.
Subcription number# 8GR31118Y1138392T

Also confirmed with my employer that they are already supporting the petition.

Great. Thanks

howzatt
06-22-2012, 09:50 PM
Subscribed 25$ for 6 months

dts
06-22-2012, 10:03 PM
Hi guys. Can one of you post the letter sent to HR on this topic? I work for a big financial firm and the email I send is likely forward to a few people and so want to send a good one. Thanks in advance.

You can simply forward petition link to them.
Also , many of our folks are working through consulting firms.
So apart from your actual employer, ask your end client where you are working to sign petition.
You can help any employer in your company to approach HR dept for this.

praskar
06-22-2012, 10:56 PM
OK so just confirmed from my friends in Dell, Microsoft and HP. They are all ON BOARD. Exciting times!!!

checkmet64
06-22-2012, 11:44 PM
Let me start by saying thank you to the folks who have contributed so far for both action items. Really its folks like you who are keeping this effort alive.

But we have to admit that generally the response by the IV community has been lukeworm at best. One would have imagined that this forum would have been flooded with contribution updates after news in the morning. The clamor before this update was such that one would have thought that it would translate in to solid action. But seems as if a lot of us are happy just letting this take its own course of action. Some of us were fretting the recent EO by the President and were wondering how Dreamers deserved it more than us. Sorry, this inaction by a lot of us points us to the direction of possible reasons.

Guys, we can't get anything done by just "saying" we want it. This has to be substantiated by solid action. The time is now. Please support IV with recurring contributions to enable IV to support your causes.

DallasBlue
06-22-2012, 11:58 PM
If you work(ed) in any of these companies and/or have contacts please contact them and have them support and sign this



Aetna Inc
Amazon.com
American Assn/Oral & Maxillofacial Surg
American Health Care Assn
American Hospital Assn
American Optometric Assn
American Physical Therapy Assn
American Podiatric Medical Assn
American Seniors Housing Assn
AmericanExpress
Amgen Inc
AMR Corp
AT&T Inc
AutoZone Inc
Baker Botts LLP
Baker, Donelson et al
Bass Brothers Enterprises
Bergman, Draper & Frockt
Berkshire Hathaway
Blackstone Group
Blank Rome LLP
Blue Cross/Blue Shield
Blue Cross/Blue Shield
Bluegrass Cmte
Boeing Co
Bracewell & Giuliani
Cardinal Health
Carnival Corp
CC Media Holdings
Centex Corp
Citigroup Inc
CME Group
Community Health Systems
Contran Corp
Cooper Industries
Corboy & Demetrio
Corrections Corp of America
Covington & Burling
CSX Corp
Denny Miller Assoc
Eastman Chemical
EMILY's List
Exxon Mobil
Federation of American Hospitals
FedEx Corp
FinancialServices Roundtable
GlaxoSmithKline
Google Inc
Haynes & Boone
HBK Capital Management
Hercules Holding
HJ Heinz Co
Ingram Industries
Jones Management Services
JPMorgan Chase & Co
K&L Gates
Kasowitz, Benson et al
Kirkland & Ellis
KKR & Co
L&F Distributors
League of Conservation Voters
Leon Medical Centers
Life Technologies Corp
LifePoint Hospitals
Locke Lord Bissell & Liddell LLP
Lockheed Martin
MacAndrews & Forbes
Mach Industrial Group
Madison Dearborn Partners
Major League Baseball Commissioner's Ofc
Marwood Group
Mayer Brown LLP
McBee Strategic Consulting
McKesson Corp
McKool Smith PC
McKool SmithPC
Mednax Inc
Metlife Inc
Microsoft Corp
Microsoft Corp
Motorola Solutions
Moveon.org
National Assn of Home Builders
National Assn of Realtors
New York Life Insurance
NextEra Energy
Northwestern Mutual
O'Melveny & Myers
Paul, Weiss et al
Perkins Coie
Physician Hospitals of America
Pilot Corp
Praxair Inc
Property Casualty Insurers Assn/America
Psychiatric Solutions
Puget Holding Co
Raytheon Co
Regions Financial
Renco Group
Renew America PAC
Second Avenue Partners
Sidley Austin LLP
Silver Eagle Distributors
Simmons Cooper LLC
Southeast Financial Group
State of Illinois
State of Tennessee
State of Texas
State of Washington
Strategies 360
Tacala LLC
Taco Bell
TACO PAC
Thornton & Naumes
UBS AG
United Continental Holdings
University of Chicago
University of Washington
US Oncology
USAA
UST Inc
Valero Energy
Vanderbilt University
Vanguard Health Systems
Verizon Communications
Vern Clark & Assoc
Waller, Lansden et al
Wells Real EstateFunds
Weyerhaeuser Co
William Blair & Co
Williams & Jensen
Wine & Spirits Wholesalers of America
Winston & Strawn
Zachry Construction

starscream
06-23-2012, 12:37 AM
Contributed $100 one time.
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 37D5948001240994Y.

Already a monthly contributor. In addition have contributed $400 before specifically for 3012 efforts

For this action item:
Talking to my HR on Monday.
Briefed and forwarded link to coworker whose husband follows IV and works in a financial company.
Sent link to 2 former coworkers - one works for a software firm specializing in healthcare and other in IT consulting
Will be talking to 2 folks tommorrow - one construction one IT. They think bill is dead
Surely will get at least 2 or 3 conversion.

All these above folks r serious people

checkmet64 is correct looking at the open forum for the pas 2 days..one would have thought this thread would be flooded witn contibutions and action item initiations....

Many members were clamoring for flower campign, marchinhg to dc , contacting media to make ourselves heard left right and center ....well it looks like due to IV efforts in the background all this time we have already been heard , 200 cos have already signed on, specifi amdmt has been presented to lift hold, ...but where r these members now??????I dont like to take names ..but now it is time members psaxena, Gandhi_II, RohitSharma where have you dissappeared ...why no psots now ..no ideas??? no updates on how you guys r doing the action items???

But we have to admit that generally the response by the IV community has been lukeworm at best. One would have imagined that this forum would have been flooded with contribution updates after news in the morning. The clamor before this update was such that one would have thought that it would translate in to solid action. But seems as if a lot of us are happy just letting this take its own course of action. Some of us were fretting the recent EO by the President and were wondering how Dreamers deserved it more than us. Sorry, this inaction by a lot of us points us to the direction of possible reasons.

.

forever_waiting
06-23-2012, 02:24 AM
Starscream and checkmet64 are absolutely correct. If there was Any time we all should be super active and support an action item with full force, it is now. And while sharing the letter from this action item or talking to/within your company for support, remember the simple talking points we were given during the time we made phone calls to House last year - this is a simple bill with only a technical fix that make the existing green card queue first-come-first-serve without discriminating green card issuance on country of origin. Ultimately this is about fairness in the system and boosting American innovation. And this bill has full support in House, Senate and industry. So it is a no-brainer. Keep your message simple but effective.

This bill is the only hope for our friends in EB3. Even EB2 appliants might have got an EAD due to the recent visa bulletin movements, but you will be stuck waiting for a GC and renewing your EAD and asking "when will I get a GC?" for the next 4-5 years if there is no legislative relief. If I lose my job with just a glorious EAD in hand, I have to pack my bags. So lets keep in mind the reality of the situation and use this one chance we have to get this bill passed and start the process of clearing the backlog.

thefar
06-23-2012, 08:28 AM
Signed up for $25 recurring contribution for 6 months
Subscription - 3S351747YY670463V

I live in a Indian-Chinese dominated community right outside of New York and have already spoken with 15 of my friends (both Indians and Chinese) to spread the awareness on this update; and speak to their respective employers on Monday. I will continue continue to reach out all this weekend, hopefully this will cover all lot of employers in NYC

Thanks IV for pushing this along. Although it will be a long wait for me since my EB2 priority date is Feb 2012, it's a step in the right direction.

Thanks again

checkmet64
06-23-2012, 09:28 AM
This is happening !! Life will probably never get any real than that. Each one of us can be a part of the history and those chances don't come by often !! Please contribute to support IV efforts.

Seriously, if you think about it, what could my few hundred dollars be able to achieve? Can I stir the congress? Can I get legislation through congress? Frankly, if anything its a pipe dream. I salute IV core’s efforts for where our legislation stands. Each one of us has to realize that the task at hand is much bigger than we think it is. How many times one gets to be a part of something like this in their life time? Lost opportunity will not knock door again.

The response from IV community is- disheartening really. I can’t still think of a reason why people would hold it back. So, let’s do this in another way. Let’s show that chivalry is not dead. Here is the thing- I made a recurring contribution earlier this week. Now I pledge to contribute $ 5 each for the first 40 contributions that are made from now to Monday morning. And if at all we are able to reach 40 then for next 10 contributions from 41 to 50, I will contribute $10 per contribution.

I throw this challenge out to you guys. Let the chivalrous in you come out; show that you care. I leave it up to you to not let me down. It will be the best $300 I ever spent. Cynics might still say- oh its just small money still. Please try and understand the motivation behind coming up with something like this.

Amman
06-23-2012, 10:00 AM
Sent the request to my employer to sign. Also spoke to several friends to have them contribute and ask their employer to participate.

dhirajs98
06-23-2012, 10:20 AM
Just donated $100 for the great cause through paypal

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 8C481948X8617513N.

rdoib
06-23-2012, 10:21 AM
Transaction ID:
74K79886AW7241648

Please get involved and contribute. Get up from the fence and jump in it is more exciting here.

bibliophile2020
06-23-2012, 11:08 AM
Just donated $100 for the cause, $600 so far from Nov, 2011.

Your transaction ID for this payment: 3J0885248K137014E

GO HR3012 - Hara hara hara Mahadev.....

unbeatensujoy
06-23-2012, 11:27 AM
Just a suggestion for all who are doing action Items.

Contact the independent consultants (Mainly US citizens) who work for companies of behalf of their own companies. In most of the cases they are the only consultants in their own company. Since they have a company and they are the are owner of the company. They are the best person to sign the petition as this will help them too. I have contacted 3 such person and asked to sign petition.

Please use all of your contacts as much as possible. If contacts does not works for us then why do we need those contacts. Please use those.

Sent a contribution cheque by mail.

reddy531
06-23-2012, 12:46 PM
I am EB2I with 2009 priority date. I didnt follow immigration policies closely untill very recently. I bumped into this forun or any other immigration forum only after my PD became current early this year. I am a casual GC seeker, I get it when i get it. Didnt know anything about country quotas etc let alone HR3012 until few months back.

After I started following the immigration policy updates I never thought HR3012 will be passed. I was very skeptical about IV efforts but never expressed them openly. Today after seeing this progress you guys made I want to offer my apology and more importantly a 6 months recurring contribution for $50.

I never made any contributions to any advocacy groups before. More than just the HR3012 it is the feeling that somebody got our backs in case of injustices in a foreign land that made me contribute. Needless to say I will contribute more once this becomes law.

"Subscription Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID # 9HJ34124BW4348549)
See related S-45315608939669418"

checkmet64
06-23-2012, 01:12 PM
I am EB2I with 2009 priority date. I didnt follow immigration policies closely untill very recently. I bumped into this forun or any other immigration forum only after my PD became current early this year. I am a casual GC seeker, I get it when i get it. Didnt know anything about country quotas etc let alone HR3012 until few months back.

After I started following the immigration policy updates I never thought HR3012 will be passed. I was very skeptical about IV efforts but never expressed them openly. Today after seeing this progress you guys made I want to offer my apology and more importantly a 6 months recurring contribution for $50.

I never made any contributions to any advocacy groups before. More than just the HR3012 it is the feeling that somebody got our backs in case of injustices in a foreign land that made me contribute. Needless to say I will contribute more once this becomes law.

"Subscription Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID # 9HJ34124BW4348549)
See related S-45315608939669418"

Thank you and please don't feel that you are too late. Infact you are just in time. I would still suggest if you have space for more contuributions please consider it for now. The need for contributions is now more than ever. Of course, you are still welcomed to make it at your convenience at a later time.

Jsad
06-23-2012, 01:26 PM
Donated 100$ for the cause

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 4YC92546LM4281253.


Thank-you IV for all your hard work & dedication!!!!!

reddy531
06-23-2012, 01:52 PM
Thank you and please don't feel that you are too late. Infact you are just in time. I would still suggest if you have space for more contuributions please consider it for now. The need for contributions is now more than ever. Of course, you are still welcomed to make it at your convenience at a later time.


Just did a onetime $100 contribution on top of my $50/moth. Thank you for your efforts. I am pledging $500 if it passes.

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 6BM71372RM266900E.

hx82
06-23-2012, 01:59 PM
Donated 100$ for the cause

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 4YC92546LM4281253.


Thank-you IV for all your hard work & dedication!!!!!

Thank you.

checkmet64
06-23-2012, 02:09 PM
Just did a onetime $100 contribution on top of my $50/moth. Thank you for your efforts. I am pledging $500 if it passes.

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 6BM71372RM266900E.

Thanks for responding to the request. I hope everybody follows suit.

pappu
06-23-2012, 02:31 PM
Thank you everyone for your support and doing the action item. Let us use this weekend to spread the message to our friends and relatives.

reddy531
06-23-2012, 02:42 PM
Doing just that ...calling friends and colleagues...my target is to have them at least $500 immediately in the next 1 week and also sign them for recurring contributions.

reddy531
06-23-2012, 02:48 PM
I am surprised most people I am contacting are not aware of this new development...I came to know only this morning through . I think we need to do a better job of getting this message out. It may be helpful to change the heading of this thread to say something like "Great progress made on HR3012 and Action Item...".

I think we will have a better chance at spreading this message once everyone comes to work on Monday.

bibliophile2020
06-23-2012, 02:53 PM
How about we top this off with a show of strength in DC? I will show up with my wife and kids .

checkmet64
06-23-2012, 03:03 PM
This is happening !! Life will probably never get any real than that. Each one of us can be a part of the history and those chances don't come by often !! Please contribute to support IV efforts.

Seriously, if you think about it, what could my few hundred dollars be able to achieve? Can I stir the congress? Can I get legislation through congress? Frankly, if anything its a pipe dream. I salute IV core’s efforts for where our legislation stands. Each one of us has to realize that the task at hand is much bigger than we think it is. How many times one gets to be a part of something like this in their life time? Lost opportunity will not knock door again.

The response from IV community is- disheartening really. I can’t still think of a reason why people would hold it back. So, let’s do this in another way. Let’s show that chivalry is not dead. Here is the thing- I made a recurring contribution earlier this week. Now I pledge to contribute $ 5 each for the first 40 contributions that are made from now to Monday morning. And if at all we are able to reach 40 then for next 10 contributions from 41 to 50, I will contribute $10 per contribution.

I throw this challenge out to you guys. Let the chivalrous in you come out; show that you care. I leave it up to you to not let me down. It will be the best $300 I ever spent. Cynics might still say- oh its just small money still. Please try and understand the motivation behind coming up with something like this.

digital2k
06-23-2012, 03:51 PM
Here is a commitment for Fairness :
Daily $50 until June 26th
in addition to $50 Subscription and past contirbutions ...
Since $100 is minimum, I'll post every 2nd day update after contribution.

Also I'm reaching to all people I know, to participate in all action items.

Subscription Number: S-161437014G057690B
$50.00 USD for each month, for 6 installments

Please be part of the historic moments.
We appreciate IV Team, Members efforts ...

checkmet64
06-23-2012, 07:10 PM
Here is a commitment for Fairness :
Daily $50 until June 26th
in addition to $50 Subscription and past contirbutions ...
Since $100 is minimum, I'll post every 2nd day update after contribution.

Also I'm reaching to all people I know, to participate in all action items.



Please be part of the historic moments.
We appreciate IV Team, Members efforts ...

Thanks. This is true chivalry on display here.

iv_gc
06-23-2012, 08:00 PM
Just made a $200 donation. This is in addition to my recurring donation.
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 830136807Y652754D.

Guys, everybody please come forward and donate liberally, think it as our share of effort for this great moment. This is an easy to do task, we no need to go out, sitting from our coach do your share of effort by donating :).

Great job IV.

checkmet64
06-23-2012, 08:42 PM
Just made a $200 donation. This is in addition to my recurring donation.
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 830136807Y652754D.

Guys, everybody please come forward and donate liberally, think it as our share of effort for this great moment. This is an easy to do task, we no need to go out, sitting from our coach do your share of effort by donating :).

Great job IV.

This is super-awesome!! Please keep it coming. Also, please contatct your contacts. We need the word to get out as much as possible.

reddy531
06-23-2012, 08:43 PM
It may be an innocent mistake but I dont think we are donating anything to anybody. we are contributing to our own future. I would say in a very convenient way. IV core is working their ass off for all of us.

I am trying to have people that I know to contribute but I am disgusted by most peoples attitude. Lot of folks I talked to are EB3 and most of them didnt know HR3012 and the fewer ones who do know have very little knowledge. I am sure they will be first in line to reap the benefits of IVs hard work.

I am still not giving up will try again and also keep contacting others.

checkmet64
06-23-2012, 08:51 PM
It may be an innocent mistake but I dont think we are donating anything to anybody. we are contributing to our own future. I would say in a very convenient way. IV core is working their ass off for all of us.

I am trying to have people that I know to contribute but I am disgusted by most peoples attitude. Lot of folks I talked to are EB3 and most of them didnt know HR3012 and the fewer ones who do know have very little knowledge. I am sure they will be first in line to reap the benefits of IVs hard work.

I am still not giving up will try again and also keep contacting others.

That is true. I think its not specific for any EB category. Its a general tentdency of so many IV members. Its unfortunate but true. But we cant wait, lets keep mobilizing our efforts.

dts
06-23-2012, 09:28 PM
Thank you everyone for your support and doing the action item. Let us use this weekend to spread the message to our friends and relatives.

Many of our IT consultant friends who got GC/citizenship , normally register own company and do consulting work instead of their old h1 employer.
If you recall all your collegues, friends, you will find several of them are working with their own registered companies.
Technically they are employers and can sign petitions.
Call them and ask them to sign it.
I called 3 such friends and they are going to sign it.
Please follow this as this should accelerate number of employers in support.

anilnag
06-23-2012, 09:44 PM
Just contributed $100.

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 78B10201XS675541R.

There is not much enthusiasm seen on the thread regarding contribution which is the need of hour. We have limited time so spread the word and also think of contributing again.

veereddy
06-24-2012, 12:50 AM
Signed up for 6 month contribution of $25. PayPal subscription # S-3X64394229354594T

Way to go IV, THANKS!!

turvi76
06-24-2012, 12:53 AM
Got my employer and 2 other friends employers petition signed yesterday & today!
Three more scheduled for the friendly nudge at start of business Monday.

msb01
06-24-2012, 10:24 AM
Donated $100
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 7SY28413R30344710.

checkmet64
06-24-2012, 11:06 AM
At any given time there are 80-90% users browsing this thread anonymously. I am thinking these are antis who are keeping an eye on our actions. But that’s not statistically possible. If we count pro votes (I am assuming these are mostly Desis) in any poll, they easily out number antis at least by 3:2. So majority of these users are likely “pseudo antis”. One who is affected by the dysfunctional immigration system and still choosing knowingly / unknowingly inaction over action, then he is probably indirectly helping the antis. I don’t know whether you realize that you are a “pseudo-anti”.

Please remember that history is littered with examples of bystanders changing the course of the history. If you are still thinking that some one else is going to get this done then you are hurting your own cause. Yes, it’s your cause, it’s our cause. Imagine how it would feel to tell the posterierity, “yes I watched it happen, didn’t do anything about it though.”

Finally, if you want to live in the limbo that your have been for so many years, its your choice. You can make a different choice right now and come out of that limbo, once for all. Again choice is yours.

This is happening !! Life will probably never get any real than that. Each one of us can be a part of the history and those chances don't come by often !! Please contribute to support IV efforts.

savinir
06-24-2012, 11:36 AM
HI,

Please do whatever you can to make this bill a reality. Also efforts should be made to exclude dependents in the cap. This move will have support from entire immigration community and not just india china alone.

Just donated $100 and the transaction id is 7C306069KH860021U

thanks,

bibliophile2020
06-24-2012, 11:52 AM
Come on brothers and sisters. Let's fight for ourselves, our kids and our future. What else is more important than this? Be part of the history. This is the time to act.

praskar
06-24-2012, 11:57 AM
Come on brothers and sisters. Let's fight for ourselves, our kids and our future. What else is more important than this? Be part of the history. This is the time to act.

Agree!

Remember guys, if you don't do this, you'll have to go back to India :-((

IndiaEB32003
06-24-2012, 12:51 PM
Donated $100
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 35D28183F7707344V.

Working on other action items.

Just wondering, why we are not receiving email from IV (or Aman) about this latest development, not sure how many are visiting IV now a days. I trust IV, there might be a good reason for not doing this.

Best wishes to everyone.

sundeepreddym
06-24-2012, 01:02 PM
IV team..keep up the good work. Contacted my employer to sign the petition. Will talk to friends/ family.

Contributed $100- Transaction # 3G5024478S2625454

Extending my monthly contribute to 6 more months. Subscription # S-52H042837M402153N

Good luck for all of us.:D

srp
06-24-2012, 01:04 PM
Donated $100 and the Your number for this payment is: 4499-6497-5596-0469.

DallasBlue
06-24-2012, 01:49 PM
If you work or worked, have contacts in any of the companies below contact the govt-affairs/ HR/Manager to sign and support this petition for spurring the economy and innovation and stop the H1B fraud and bring fairness to the system

Source : http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=2010&cid=N00001758&type=I&newmem =N

If you work(ed) in any of these companies and/or have contacts please contact them and have them support and sign this

Aetna Inc
Amazon.com
American Assn/Oral & Maxillofacial Surg
American Health Care Assn
American Hospital Assn
American Optometric Assn
American Physical Therapy Assn
American Podiatric Medical Assn
American Seniors Housing Assn
AmericanExpress
Amgen Inc
AMR Corp
AT&T Inc
AutoZone Inc
Baker Botts LLP
Baker, Donelson et al
Bass Brothers Enterprises
Bergman, Draper & Frockt
Berkshire Hathaway
Blackstone Group
Blank Rome LLP
Blue Cross/Blue Shield
Blue Cross/Blue Shield
Bluegrass Cmte
Boeing Co
Bracewell & Giuliani
Cardinal Health
Carnival Corp
CC Media Holdings
Centex Corp
Citigroup Inc
CME Group
Community Health Systems
Contran Corp
Cooper Industries
Corboy & Demetrio
Corrections Corp of America
Covington & Burling
CSX Corp
Denny Miller Assoc
Eastman Chemical
EMILY's List
Exxon Mobil
Federation of American Hospitals
FedEx Corp
FinancialServices Roundtable
GlaxoSmithKline
Google Inc
Haynes & Boone
HBK Capital Management
Hercules Holding
HJ Heinz Co
Ingram Industries
Jones Management Services
JPMorgan Chase & Co
K&L Gates
Kasowitz, Benson et al
Kirkland & Ellis
KKR & Co
L&F Distributors
League of Conservation Voters
Leon Medical Centers
Life Technologies Corp
LifePoint Hospitals
Locke Lord Bissell & Liddell LLP
Lockheed Martin
MacAndrews & Forbes
Mach Industrial Group
Madison Dearborn Partners
Major League Baseball Commissioner's Ofc
Marwood Group
Mayer Brown LLP
McBee Strategic Consulting
McKesson Corp
McKool Smith PC
McKool SmithPC
Mednax Inc
Metlife Inc
Microsoft Corp
Microsoft Corp
Motorola Solutions
Moveon.org
National Assn of Home Builders
National Assn of Realtors
New York Life Insurance
NextEra Energy
Northwestern Mutual
O'Melveny & Myers
Paul, Weiss et al
Perkins Coie
Physician Hospitals of America
Pilot Corp
Praxair Inc
Property Casualty Insurers Assn/America
Psychiatric Solutions
Puget Holding Co
Raytheon Co
Regions Financial
Renco Group
Renew America PAC
Second Avenue Partners
Sidley Austin LLP
Silver Eagle Distributors
Simmons Cooper LLC
Southeast Financial Group
State of Illinois
State of Tennessee
State of Texas
State of Washington
Strategies 360
Tacala LLC
Taco Bell
TACO PAC
Thornton & Naumes
UBS AG
United Continental Holdings
University of Chicago
University of Washington
US Oncology
USAA
UST Inc
Valero Energy
Vanderbilt University
Vanguard Health Systems
Verizon Communications
Vern Clark & Assoc
Waller, Lansden et al
Wells Real EstateFunds
Weyerhaeuser Co
William Blair & Co
Williams & Jensen
Wine & Spirits Wholesalers of America
Winston & Strawn
Zachry Construction

digital2k
06-24-2012, 01:52 PM
Here is per commitment for Fairness

Your receipt number for this payment is: 5410-9030-6475-6552.
You sent a payment of $100.00 USD to Immigration Voice.

Looking forward for next.

Here is a commitment for Fairness :
Daily $50 until June 26th
in addition to $50 Subscription and past contirbutions ...
Since $100 is minimum, I'll post every 2nd day update after contribution.

Also I'm reaching to all people I know, to participate in all action items.


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starscream
06-24-2012, 09:36 PM
Guys,

Please follow up with your HR on Monday to sign the petition if already not done .

Please forward the letter/petition link to friends, coworkers, past employers, people workign @ past employers.

Please rewtweet the message posted in the action item at the begining of this thread

Please follow/like on Facebook

Administrator2
06-24-2012, 11:13 PM
Hello ____________ (NAME OF HR VP/HEAD)

I work within ___________ (Organization Name) and report to ______.

My green card application applied by the company is pending with USCIS since ______.

I’m reaching out to find out if ________ is a member of a trade group called TechNet? The reason being, there is a bill pending before US Congress and if this bill becomes the law, it will benefit my pending application and the pending application of many other colleagues at ______ (NAME OF YOUR EMPLOYER). This bill is H.R.3012 and it passed the House of Representatives by 97% votes. Soon the bill is expected to come for vote in the Senate. H.R.3012 or Fairness for High-Skilled immigration could potentially reduce my green card wait times by many years.

Trade group - TechNet - is running a drive to gather support of large technology companies to sign a petition to US Senate to consider High-Skilled immigration bill called HR3012. Apparently, you could sign the petition supporting the bill even if we are not the members of TechNet. I learned that over 200 large tech companies (some of them listed here - Members | TechNet (http://www.technet.org/leaders/member-companies/)) have already signed expressing their support for the pending high-skilled immigration bill H.R.3012. It would be great if __________ (NAME OF YOUR EMPLOYER) will consider signing this petition to US Senate.

Here is a link to more information about the petition:

Information about Petition for H.R.3012 (http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0)

Here is the link to online petition:

Online Petition to the Senate (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFRxU3VLbld2QzVDTDVvTlNqSG1WN0E6M A#gid=0)

Thank you for looking into this and please let me know if you would like for me to research and send additional information your way.

YOUR NAME
TITLE
SUB-ORGANIZATION NAME

katta
06-25-2012, 12:36 AM
100$ contribution. transaction ID for this payment is: 2SV797278P283330D

nosightofgc
06-25-2012, 04:27 AM
Hello ____________ (NAME OF HR VP/HEAD)

I work within ___________ (Organization Name) and report to ______.

My green card application applied by the company is pending with USCIS since ______.

I’m reaching out to find out if ________ is a member of a trade group called TechNet? The reason being, there is a bill pending before US Congress and if this bill becomes the law, it will benefit my pending application and the pending application of many other colleagues at ______ (NAME OF YOUR EMPLOYER). This bill is H.R.3012 and it passed the House of Representatives by 97% votes. Soon the bill is expected to come for vote in the Senate. H.R.3012 or Fairness for High-Skilled immigration could potentially reduce my green card wait times by many years.

Trade group - TechNet - is running a drive to gather support of large technology companies to sign a petition to US Senate to consider High-Skilled immigration bill called HR3012. Apparently, you could sign the petition supporting the bill even if we are not the members of TechNet. I learned that over 200 large tech companies (some of them listed here - Members | TechNet (http://www.technet.org/leaders/member-companies/)) have already signed expressing their support for the pending high-skilled immigration bill H.R.3012. It would be great if __________ (NAME OF YOUR EMPLOYER) will consider signing this petition to US Senate.

Here is a link to more information about the petition:

Information about Petition for H.R.3012 (http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0)

Here is the link to online petition:

Online Petition to the Senate (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFRxU3VLbld2QzVDTDVvTlNqSG1WN0E6M A#gid=0)

Thank you for looking into this and please let me know if you would like for me to research and send additional information your way.

YOUR NAME
TITLE
SUB-ORGANIZATION NAME

Some companies block google docs etc. At least my company does and I could not access the online petition from office network. Any other alternatives?

pappu
06-25-2012, 05:45 AM
Please have your Chinese friends to also post about this action item on their sites. Our Chinese friends generally discuss on their language forums. So it may be a good idea to reach out to them and spread the word.

h1techSlave
06-25-2012, 06:56 AM
Apart from signing the letter on behalf of my company, I have also contacted at least a dozen of my friends to request their employers to support this.

I am requesting all my friends to talk to the company representatives rather than sending an email, since this needs some personal touch and explanation of the importance.

h1techSlave
06-25-2012, 07:11 AM
I have singed up for monthly contributions. Subscription Number: S-47H39914PM914540A

pak
06-25-2012, 07:17 AM
This is a big action item and we ask each person to get it done from their company managent. If there was something very important that could help our bill pass, this is it.

Please also spread awareness. Send the link to the thread to your friends. If you know anyone in media, send the link to them. We are ready for media interviews on this.

Lastly, if you do not have monthly subscription yet, or has expired, please do so ASAP. We need resources to pull through. It has been non stop work over past year and last few months were very hectic. We need all support we can get to put more rsources in getting this bill passed.

Donated $100: receipt number: 4874-8850-4916-7314.
Also contacted Government Relations of my employer. Also contacted part time employer and called friends for the new action item.

GC_Green9
06-25-2012, 07:39 AM
To strengthen the hands of IV and for the commendable efforts in making HR 2012, becoming a REALITY, here is my contribution of $200 today. (Your transaction ID for this payment is: 91M441490G644052F) in addition to my earlier contribution of $400.

Appreciate the work being carried out by our Admins/Core Team and to the community.

Thank you.

Robert Kumar
06-25-2012, 07:45 AM
To strengthen the hands of IV and for the commendable efforts in making HR 2012, becoming a REALITY, here is my contribution of $200 today. (Your transaction ID for this payment is: 91M441490G644052F) in addition to my earlier contribution of $400.

Appreciate the work being carried out by our Admins/Core Team and to the community.

Thank you.

Got 23 of my friends sign this, and 15 more are to do today.

neel_gump
06-25-2012, 07:57 AM
Some companies block google docs etc. At least my company does and I could not access the online petition from office network. Any other alternatives?

A PDF format would be better.. google docs are blocked as well for me..

dts
06-25-2012, 08:06 AM
Got 23 of my friends sign this, and 15 more are to do today.

Called 5 friends who owns company and got confirmation of sign off.
Contacting more.
Friends , please call personally than just email and explain urgency.

chepurr
06-25-2012, 08:21 AM
100 USD. Receipt number for this payment is: 3170-6429-4742-4294.

greyhair
06-25-2012, 08:39 AM
Got 23 of my friends sign this, and 15 more are to do today.

Called 5 friends who owns company and got confirmation of sign off.
Contacting more.
Friends , please call personally than just email and explain urgency.


You are not supposed to sign the petition yourself. You are also not supposed to sign the petition for your friends' companies. If you do, it could be considered as fraud, and could get serious. Read the "Authorization" part carefully:


By clicking this box, I acknowledge that I am
1) a c-level executive with the authority to establish corporate positions on public policy issues; or
2) a government relations representative for my company; or
3) a senior level executive with the corporate authority to represent my company's positions on public policy issues before the United States Congress.

I further acknowledge that in my professional capacity, I have the authority and corporate permission / responsibility to authorize my company's name and headquarters location will be listed on this letter to the United States Senate and hereby authorize you to do so.

If you have any questions about this matter or do not fall into one of those three categories, please contact Betsy Mullins @ bmullins@technet.org before signing your company onto this letter..

ihaveadream
06-25-2012, 08:56 AM
Donated $100 now using Paypal
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 26P2258725565920H.

I am a frequent visitor to IV and after going through this thread and seeing other people I asked myself, what I am doing for this fair cause that is going to have a big impact on my life? IV people who are involved in campaign are the real heroes. The least I could do sitting in chair is respect their call for more resources and do my bit.

I appeal to other people sitting on the fence to jump from there in the field and do whatever you could. I also emailed my friends to generate more awareness.

seahawks
06-25-2012, 09:01 AM
You are not supposed to sign the petition yourself. You are also not supposed to sign the petition for your friends' companies. If you do, it could be considered as fraud, and could get serious. Read the "Authorization" part carefully:


By clicking this box, I acknowledge that I am
1) a c-level executive with the authority to establish corporate positions on public policy issues; or
2) a government relations representative for my company; or
3) a senior level executive with the corporate authority to represent my company's positions on public policy issues before the United States Congress.

I further acknowledge that in my professional capacity, I have the authority and corporate permission / responsibility to authorize my company's name and headquarters location will be listed on this letter to the United States Senate and hereby authorize you to do so.

If you have any questions about this matter or do not fall into one of those three categories, please contact Betsy Mullins @ bmullins@technet.org before signing your company onto this letter..

Called all my vendor contacts and spoke to owners/partners and have comittment on signing petition. I am also following up with my company and haven't heard anything yet. Will follow up today

checkmet64
06-25-2012, 09:22 AM
This is happening !! Life will probably never get any real than that. Each one of us can be a part of the history and those chances don't come by often !! Please contribute to support IV efforts.

Seriously, if you think about it, what could my few hundred dollars be able to achieve? Can I stir the congress? Can I get legislation through congress? Frankly, if anything its a pipe dream. I salute IV core’s efforts for where our legislation stands. Each one of us has to realize that the task at hand is much bigger than we think it is. How many times one gets to be a part of something like this in their life time? Lost opportunity will not knock door again.

The response from IV community is- disheartening really. I can’t still think of a reason why people would hold it back. So, let’s do this in another way. Let’s show that chivalry is not dead. Here is the thing- I made a recurring contribution earlier this week. Now I pledge to contribute $ 5 each for the first 40 contributions that are made from now to Monday morning. And if at all we are able to reach 40 then for next 10 contributions from 41 to 50, I will contribute $10 per contribution.

I throw this challenge out to you guys. Let the chivalrous in you come out; show that you care. I leave it up to you to not let me down. It will be the best $300 I ever spent. Cynics might still say- oh its just small money still. Please try and understand the motivation behind coming up with something like this.

mantagon
06-25-2012, 09:24 AM
...for IV Core's continous hard work & determination and IV member's contribution so far!

Go IV!!!

Your transaction ID for this payment of $100 is: 9B502082PW398811C.

psani
06-25-2012, 09:35 AM
Hi:

I work with a Not for profit Health care Company , HR not very easy to approach.

Since this petition is being coming from the tech companies, do I request them to sign this ?

Thanks.

dkshitij
06-25-2012, 09:45 AM
You are not supposed to sign the petition yourself. You are also not supposed to sign the petition for your friends' companies. If you do, it could be considered as fraud, and could get serious. Read the "Authorization" part carefully:


By clicking this box, I acknowledge that I am
1) a c-level executive with the authority to establish corporate positions on public policy issues; or
2) a government relations representative for my company; or
3) a senior level executive with the corporate authority to represent my company's positions on public policy issues before the United States Congress.

I further acknowledge that in my professional capacity, I have the authority and corporate permission / responsibility to authorize my company's name and headquarters location will be listed on this letter to the United States Senate and hereby authorize you to do so.

If you have any questions about this matter or do not fall into one of those three categories, please contact Betsy Mullins @ bmullins@technet.org before signing your company onto this letter..

It is too late. Click-happy folks have already done what they were not supposed to. Please ask IV to contact technet.org and weed out the unauthorized letters.

thomachan72
06-25-2012, 09:48 AM
Hello ____________ (NAME OF HR VP/HEAD)

I work within ___________ (Organization Name) and report to ______.

My green card application applied by the company is pending with USCIS since ______.

I’m reaching out to find out if ________ is a member of a trade group called TechNet? The reason being, there is a bill pending before US Congress and if this bill becomes the law, it will benefit my pending application and the pending application of many other colleagues at ______ (NAME OF YOUR EMPLOYER). This bill is H.R.3012 and it passed the House of Representatives by 97% votes. Soon the bill is expected to come for vote in the Senate. H.R.3012 or Fairness for High-Skilled immigration could potentially reduce my green card wait times by many years.

Trade group - TechNet - is running a drive to gather support of large technology companies to sign a petition to US Senate to consider High-Skilled immigration bill called HR3012. Apparently, you could sign the petition supporting the bill even if we are not the members of TechNet. I learned that over 200 large tech companies (some of them listed here - Members | TechNet (http://www.technet.org/leaders/member-companies/)) have already signed expressing their support for the pending high-skilled immigration bill H.R.3012. It would be great if __________ (NAME OF YOUR EMPLOYER) will consider signing this petition to US Senate.

Here is a link to more information about the petition:

Information about Petition for H.R.3012 (http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0)

Here is the link to online petition:

Online Petition to the Senate (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFRxU3VLbld2QzVDTDVvTlNqSG1WN0E6M A#gid=0)

Thank you for looking into this and please let me know if you would like for me to research and send additional information your way.

YOUR NAME
TITLE
SUB-ORGANIZATION NAME

Pappu thanks for providing this version. This is what I forwarded. Hoping to hear support but not sure. Will update.

amulchandra
06-25-2012, 10:13 AM
I talked to my HR and got a promise that this will be done by the end of the day. I will follow up again tomorrow.

Amul

pappu
06-25-2012, 10:17 AM
Hi:

I work with a Not for profit Health care Company , HR not very easy to approach.

Since this petition is being coming from the tech companies, do I request them to sign this ?

Thanks.

Any company from any sector can sign it.
Just make sure management signs it. Not the applicant.

gujju
06-25-2012, 10:22 AM
Just contributed $100 for the cause
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 3BK61763G05720701.

Come on all of you , lets get together for our cause .We are responsible to end our own sufferings. Its now or never.

I just received an email from our company that they will sign the petition and already talked to 15 of my friends and some of them have the authority to sign and others are going to forward to their HR.

IV core, we cannot thank you enough.We SALUTE you.


thnks
gujju.

abhayjo
06-25-2012, 10:31 AM
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 04A072808P709813W.

you just made a payment of
$100.00 USD

Paid to
Immigration Voice
donations@immigrationvoice.org
850-391-4966

This is our good shot at getting HR3012 passed in 2012....GO IV.

amulchandra
06-25-2012, 10:32 AM
I just got a call from my HR that they submitted the letter supporting HR 3012 via the link provided.

Thank you

Amul

malaGCPahije
06-25-2012, 10:39 AM
Donated $100...

Your receipt number for this payment is: 0222-4878-2480-6831.

dts
06-25-2012, 10:48 AM
You are not supposed to sign the petition yourself. You are also not supposed to sign the petition for your friends' companies. If you do, it could be considered as fraud, and could get serious. Read the "Authorization" part carefully:


By clicking this box, I acknowledge that I am
1) a c-level executive with the authority to establish corporate positions on public policy issues; or
2) a government relations representative for my company; or
3) a senior level executive with the corporate authority to represent my company's positions on public policy issues before the United States Congress.

I further acknowledge that in my professional capacity, I have the authority and corporate permission / responsibility to authorize my company's name and headquarters location will be listed on this letter to the United States Senate and hereby authorize you to do so.

If you have any questions about this matter or do not fall into one of those three categories, please contact Betsy Mullins @ bmullins@technet.org before signing your company onto this letter..

We understand this perfectly. I mean, if our friends own company( i.e. they are CEO or president of company ) , they can sign petition. Although company is small, but registered and if owner of comapny sign petition, it is perfectly OK.

What I want to say, many of our friends who got GC/ citizenship started their own comapny. we should approach them and request them to sign up petition.

am99
06-25-2012, 11:04 AM
Contributed $100 - Receipt No:1710-9626-0222-8108

Also got confirmation from my employer for supporting this petition.

goosetavo
06-25-2012, 11:14 AM
It's great to see how much progress has been made behind the scenes. Is it ok to ask immigrant friends who are self-employed and/or have their own companies? These companies aren't huge but they totally support the cause.

psani
06-25-2012, 11:18 AM
Thanks.

I forwarded the request to my HR dept.

gujju
06-25-2012, 11:22 AM
It's great to see how much progress has been made behind the scenes. Is it ok to ask immigrant friends who are self-employed and/or have their own companies? These companies aren't huge but they totally support the cause.

IV Core have already yes to this request.Go Goosetavo Go.

Suva
06-25-2012, 11:37 AM
I have sent an email to HR asking them to sign this petition. Hoping for a positive response from them.

seahawks
06-25-2012, 11:41 AM
Any company from any sector can sign it.
Just make sure management signs it. Not the applicant.

Send letter to SVP, Human Resources, will post update as soon as I hear from her.

seahawks
06-25-2012, 11:44 AM
Send letter to SVP, Human Resources, will post update as soon as I hear from her.

I have also contacted friends in Expedia, Microsoft, Amazon and the vendors we work with on to get their help on getting support to contact their HR reps to sign this petition.

new_horizon
06-25-2012, 11:47 AM
I am not able to open the links in your post.

Letter to Hi-Tech employers (To request Hi-Tech employers to sign the petition) (http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0)


Petition for Hi-Tech employers - (Petition to be signed by Hi-Tech employers and which will go to key lawmakers). (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFRxU3VLbld2QzVDTDVvTlNqSG1WN0E6M A#gid=0)

Are the links working, or is it something with my company web brower that's preventing it from opening?

Anyone else facing the same problem? Thanks.


--------------------------------------------------------
Update and Very Important Action Item
--------------------------------------------------------

For past few months, we have been involved in the discussion to find a way to move forward HR3012.

With the leadership of Senator Schumer and Senator Grassley, earlier this week, the amendment to HR3012 was finalized. Every part and every letter of this amendment has been carefully vetted. We have been engaged in the amendment negotiation process right since the beginning and we know that this is a good amendment.

This amendment makes a very good bill even better. The amendment is balanced in a way where a small fraction of employers with more than 100 employees and 15% employees on H1 (L1/J1 is not part of 15%) visa will be audited. Again, the amendment is to audit employers (not employees). The amendment doesn't put any restriction on the employers or employees. We applaud Senator Schumer and Senator Grassley for this amendment.

As we all know, there are some bad employers out there who take advantage of the system. This amendment is designed to root out companies engaged in fraud or exploitation. A large number of coalition, trade groups and the entire large Hi-tech industry (you know all the large companies) is fully on-board with this amendment. The reason being, they are not afraid of audit, they do not have anything to hide, they don't game the system. These 200 companies are the good citizens of the non-immigrant and immigrant visa system.

Now we need your help to reach out to more companies, your employers, to sign this petition to the key Senators.

The deadline for signing this letter is now extended to 26th June.

Letter to Hi-Tech employers (To request Hi-Tech employers to sign the petition) (http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0)


Petition for Hi-Tech employers - (Petition to be signed by Hi-Tech employers and which will go to key lawmakers). (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFRxU3VLbld2QzVDTDVvTlNqSG1WN0E6M A#gid=0)


200 of the Top companies have already signed up this petition. We need more companies to sign up.

Needless to say, some lawyers or some group of lawyers are against this amendment. We believe that this fringe group has always advocated a system where immigrants are taken advantage off.

I understand that there never existed a civilized society in which one segment did not thrive upon the labor of another. From ancient times to biblical times to now, the so called “silicon age”. The basic tenants of one segment thriving upon the labor of another has not changed much. But this idea is totally contrary to a natural or inevitable phenomenon, a basic human concept called freedom, which is the first step towards innovation. The majority of innovations and inventions in the modern world were created and invented by free men post American Independence. These were men who were free to spend their energies on the own project or change/work for an employer of their choice. If the business of your employer directly or indirectly depends on innovation and technology, then your employer will appreciate you letting them know about these new developments about HR3012.

Some of these immigration Lawyers have chosen to be on the wrong side of history. They want to protect companies gaming the system. This set of immigration lawyers want to to take advantage of immigrants, siding with companies that under-cut US worker and commit fraud.

Its time for us to standup and speak for ourselves and tell everyone that immigration lawyers don't represent immigrant community. Immigration lawyers and their groups only represent their own special interest to design the system to keep more people in limbo for longer so that they can profit from decade long probationary status of immigrants.

Housing market is not about realtors; Housing market is about living the American Dream and home ownership. Likewise, the purpose of immigration system is not for immigration lawyers to pocket more cash. Immigration system is about America, US Employers and immigrants. Its time for us to raise our voice together and say it loud & clear, that immigration lawyer or their group doesn't represent immigrant community.

Ask your employer to stand on the right side of history and support a change for you, a change which has been long awaited. Ask your employer to do the right thing NOW!

Thank You,

Team IV

seahawks
06-25-2012, 11:57 AM
I am not able to open the links in your post.

Letter to Hi-Tech employers (To request Hi-Tech employers to sign the petition) (http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0)


Petition for Hi-Tech employers - (Petition to be signed by Hi-Tech employers and which will go to key lawmakers). (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFRxU3VLbld2QzVDTDVvTlNqSG1WN0E6M A#gid=0)

Are the links working, or is it something with my company web brower that's preventing it from opening?

Anyone else facing the same problem? Thanks.

Got a response from SVP HR, our company is a Technet member, they have already signed the petition.

Guys please contact your company officials, really easy, they may already be members and have signed it, or they are waiting to, you reaching out to them will remind them to do so. There is nothing to be worried about, but there is so much to lose if you haven't reached out. so do so and please post in this thread.

seahawks
06-25-2012, 12:00 PM
I am not able to open the links in your post.

Letter to Hi-Tech employers (To request Hi-Tech employers to sign the petition) (http://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?j=fef91c74766007&m=fe9715707362077f73&ls=fe9a16747063057d77&l=ff6117737d&s=fec3117672650c7c&jb=ffcf14&ju=fecb10727660027c&r=0)


Petition for Hi-Tech employers - (Petition to be signed by Hi-Tech employers and which will go to key lawmakers). (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFRxU3VLbld2QzVDTDVvTlNqSG1WN0E6M A#gid=0)

Are the links working, or is it something with my company web brower that's preventing it from opening?

Anyone else facing the same problem? Thanks.

working for me, I just clicked again and takes me to the relevant pages.

smiles
06-25-2012, 12:42 PM
Contributed $200 and transaction ID for this payment is: 5KE12334DH731511U.

Also working with my company's Immigration team to get the petition signed... Requested few friends to work with their companies as well. Thanks for your leadership and all the efforts.

lickitysplit
06-25-2012, 12:48 PM
Just sent the request to the HR. Will post once I get the confirmation.

dipdowndust
06-25-2012, 01:21 PM
Hello Guys,

Does anybody know whom to contact in Oracle to get this signed ? Is there a group of employees who are collectively forwarding this request to top management ? If yes, please send me details.

Contributed 100USD.
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 8R245737Y68466824.

kumar700
06-25-2012, 01:25 PM
Send email to my company Head of HR-Immigration Dept, He said going to discuss with counsel asap and let us know.
I will keep you updated.

Thanks IV Core for doing great work. You guys are amazing, continously working for the cause facing any kind of hurdles.
We are with you...

I have told many of my friends to send letter to HR and also to donate.

sripk
06-25-2012, 03:23 PM
Sent email to HR manager and then opened the link and saw my company is already on the members list. So do you think we should first check the list before shooting emails to HR or
it will help to let them know how many employees are affected due to this? Please share your thoughts.

Thanks!

thomachan72
06-25-2012, 03:26 PM
Sent email to HR manager and then opened the link and saw my company is already on the members list. So do you think we should first check the list before shooting emails to HR or
it will help to let them know how many employees are affected due to this? Please share your thoughts.

Thanks!
Previous posts indicate that it is important to communicate with the company even if they are on board to show that the employee is also interested and supports their decision to join the effort.

DallasBlue
06-25-2012, 05:43 PM
can someone confirm if these companies are covered ?

If you work/worked, have contacts in any of the companies below contact the govt-affairs/ HR/Manager to sign and support this petition for spurring the economy and innovation and stop the H1B fraud and bring fairness to the system

Source : http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=2010&cid=N00001758&type=I&newmem =N


Quote:
Originally Posted by DallasBlue
If you work(ed) in any of these companies and/or have contacts please contact them and have them support and sign this

Aetna Inc
Amazon.com
American Assn/Oral & Maxillofacial Surg
American Health Care Assn
American Hospital Assn
American Optometric Assn
American Physical Therapy Assn
American Podiatric Medical Assn
American Seniors Housing Assn
AmericanExpress
Amgen Inc
AMR Corp
AT&T Inc
AutoZone Inc
Baker Botts LLP
Baker, Donelson et al
Bass Brothers Enterprises
Bergman, Draper & Frockt
Berkshire Hathaway
Blackstone Group
Blank Rome LLP
Blue Cross/Blue Shield
Blue Cross/Blue Shield
Bluegrass Cmte
Boeing Co
Bracewell & Giuliani
Cardinal Health
Carnival Corp
CC Media Holdings
Centex Corp
Citigroup Inc
CME Group
Community Health Systems
Contran Corp
Cooper Industries
Corboy & Demetrio
Corrections Corp of America
Covington & Burling
CSX Corp
Denny Miller Assoc
Eastman Chemical
EMILY's List
Exxon Mobil
Federation of American Hospitals
FedEx Corp
FinancialServices Roundtable
GlaxoSmithKline
Google Inc
Haynes & Boone
HBK Capital Management
Hercules Holding
HJ Heinz Co
Ingram Industries
Jones Management Services
JPMorgan Chase & Co
K&L Gates
Kasowitz, Benson et al
Kirkland & Ellis
KKR & Co
L&F Distributors
League of Conservation Voters
Leon Medical Centers
Life Technologies Corp
LifePoint Hospitals
Locke Lord Bissell & Liddell LLP
Lockheed Martin
MacAndrews & Forbes
Mach Industrial Group
Madison Dearborn Partners
Major League Baseball Commissioner's Ofc
Marwood Group
Mayer Brown LLP
McBee Strategic Consulting
McKesson Corp
McKool Smith PC
McKool SmithPC
Mednax Inc
Metlife Inc
Microsoft Corp
Microsoft Corp
Motorola Solutions
Moveon.org
National Assn of Home Builders
National Assn of Realtors
New York Life Insurance
NextEra Energy
Northwestern Mutual
O'Melveny & Myers
Paul, Weiss et al
Perkins Coie
Physician Hospitals of America
Pilot Corp
Praxair Inc
Property Casualty Insurers Assn/America
Psychiatric Solutions
Puget Holding Co
Raytheon Co
Regions Financial
Renco Group
Renew America PAC
Second Avenue Partners
Sidley Austin LLP
Silver Eagle Distributors
Simmons Cooper LLC
Southeast Financial Group
State of Illinois
State of Tennessee
State of Texas
State of Washington
Strategies 360
Tacala LLC
Taco Bell
TACO PAC
Thornton & Naumes
UBS AG
United Continental Holdings
University of Chicago
University of Washington
US Oncology
USAA
UST Inc
Valero Energy
Vanderbilt University
Vanguard Health Systems
Verizon Communications
Vern Clark & Assoc
Waller, Lansden et al
Wells Real EstateFunds
Weyerhaeuser Co
William Blair & Co
Williams & Jensen
Wine & Spirits Wholesalers of America
Winston & Strawn
Zachry Construction

KiranKashi
06-25-2012, 07:21 PM
My relative has a consulting company. Asked him to sign it and he did it.

checkmet64
06-25-2012, 09:23 PM
This is happening !! Life will probably never get any real than that. Each one of us can be a part of the history and those chances don't come by often !! Please contribute to support IV efforts.

Seriously, if you think about it, what could my few hundred dollars be able to achieve? Can I stir the congress? Can I get legislation through congress? Frankly, if anything its a pipe dream. I salute IV core’s efforts for where our legislation stands. Each one of us has to realize that the task at hand is much bigger than we think it is. How many times one gets to be a part of something like this in their life time? Lost opportunity will not knock door again.

The response from IV community is- disheartening really. I can’t still think of a reason why people would hold it back. So, let’s do this in another way. Let’s show that chivalry is not dead. Here is the thing- I made a recurring contribution earlier this week. Now I pledge to contribute $ 5 each for the first 40 contributions that are made from now to Monday morning. And if at all we are able to reach 40 then for next 10 contributions from 41 to 50, I will contribute $10 per contribution.

I throw this challenge out to you guys. Let the chivalrous in you come out; show that you care. I leave it up to you to not let me down. It will be the best $300 I ever spent. Cynics might still say- oh its just small money still. Please try and understand the motivation behind coming up with something like this.

Kudos to all the IV members (mentioned in the list below) who have contributed in last two days or so. As promised I have made a $300 (50x6) contribution. Again thank you !!

I still believe that this may not be enough and we need to keep chipping in to support all IV efforts and time was never ripe than ripe. Afterall its our fight and we need to fight it out.

1. Turvi76
2. malaGCPahije
3. gujju
4. Irving_tx
5. Hopefullgc
6. Dipdowndust
7. Stifries
8. Smiles
9. FaniMibanana
10. Kumar700
11. Deepakd
12. Pank81
13. Dhirajs98
14. Rdoib
15. Bibliophile
16. Unbeatensujoy
17. Reddy 531
18. Jsad
19. Digitak2x-4x
23. Iv_gc
24. Anilnag
25. Veereddy
26. Msb01
27. Savinir
28. IndiaEB32003
29. Sudeepreddym
30. Srp
31. Katta
32. H1techslave
33. Pak
34. GC_green9
35. Chepurr
36. Ihaveadream
37. Mantagon
38. Gujju
39. Abhayjo
40. malaGCPahije
41. am99
42. smiles
43. dipdowndust

checkmet64
06-25-2012, 09:25 PM
Date of sign up: Jun 25, 2012
Subscription Name: Donation to Support Immigration Voice (User: checkmet64)
Subscription Number: S-4AE34547MV6764135


Subscription Terms:
$50.00 USD for each month, for 6 installments

ps I may have forgotten some names, please pardon me for that.

new_horizon
06-25-2012, 10:00 PM
Yes it worked for me as well. I had to close my browser, and reopen it. It worked. Thanks.

working for me, I just clicked again and takes me to the relevant pages.

new_horizon
06-25-2012, 10:04 PM
I've sent it to Blue Cross Blue Shield of MI, and Rite Aid Corp.

can someone confirm if these companies are covered ?

pappu
06-25-2012, 10:36 PM
Did everyone get the newsletter today? If not, please update your profile with correct email address. We will be sending info via newsletter as well.

pappu
06-25-2012, 10:37 PM
Date of sign up: Jun 25, 2012
Subscription Name: Donation to Support Immigration Voice (User: checkmet64)
Subscription Number: S-4AE34547MV6764135


Subscription Terms:
$50.00 USD for each month, for 6 installments

ps I may have forgotten some names, please pardon me for that.

Thank you

checkmet64
06-25-2012, 10:39 PM
Did everyone get the newsletter today? If not, please update your profile with correct email address. We will be sending info via newsletter as well.

What is this newletter? Where was this sent or where can find it? When do you guys plan to send it via email?

sunny2007
06-26-2012, 12:15 AM
Did everyone get the newsletter today? If not, please update your profile with correct email address. We will be sending info via newsletter as well.

I didn't receive any newsletter so far.

seahawks
06-26-2012, 12:39 AM
me neither, my email is up todate. Just checked again.

turvi76
06-26-2012, 12:49 AM
my email is also correct in my profile and have not received any newsletter so far.

IndiaEB32003
06-26-2012, 01:08 AM
Yes I got email, Thank You.

TO BE OR NO TO BE
06-26-2012, 05:06 AM
Great job IV:

Contributed $200 today....Your transaction ID for this payment is: 2GB511988S915564D

GO IV GO :)

mantagon
06-26-2012, 07:42 AM
...for being so kind! It's people like you who keeps IV doing such great job.


Kudos to all the IV members (mentioned in the list below) who have contributed in last two days or so. As promised I have made a $300 (50x6) contribution. Again thank you !!

I still believe that this may not be enough and we need to keep chipping in to support all IV efforts and time was never ripe than ripe. Afterall its our fight and we need to fight it out.

1. Turvi76
2. malaGCPahije
3. gujju
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bibliophile2020
06-26-2012, 08:08 AM
I did n't recieve the Newsletter either.

RDS
06-26-2012, 08:37 AM
Checked mail. News Letter no received.
email address is correct.

Jsad
06-26-2012, 08:48 AM
I got an email from Aman yesterday night which details the amendments made to the HR 3012 bill, but it was in my SPAM folder.

Suva
06-26-2012, 08:49 AM
I have received the newsletter today.

lickitysplit
06-26-2012, 08:50 AM
I did receive the newsletter this morning.

sundeepreddym
06-26-2012, 08:50 AM
Received an below email from IV at 6:09 AM today

Dear Immigration Voice Member:

For past few months, we have been involved in the discussion to find a way to move forward HR3012 – the bill to remove per-country ceilings.

With the leadership of Senator Grassley (R-IA) and Senator Schumer (D-NY), last week, the two Senate offices have worked out a deal on an amendment to H.R. 3012. Immigration Voice applauds Senator Grassley and Senator Schumer for their leadership.



The proposed amendment has been carefully vetted by Congressional staff. This amendment makes a very good bill, even better. The amendment is balanced in a way where a small fraction of employers with more than 100 employees and 15% employees on H1 (L1/J1 is not part of 15%) visa will be audited. Again, the amendment is to audit employers (not employees). The amendment does not put any restriction on the employers or employees. If employers are not committing fraud, if they are not abusing the system, then there is nothing to fear.

As we all know, there are some bad employers out there who take advantage of the system. This amendment is designed to root out companies engaged in fraud or exploitation. A large number of coalition, trade groups and the entire large Hi-tech industry (you know all the large companies) are fully on-board with this amendment. The reason being, they are not afraid of audit, they do not have anything to hide, they don't game the system. These over 200 companies are the good citizens of the non-immigrant and immigrant visa system.


ACTION ITEMS



1.) Petition to employers: Now we need your help to reach out to more companies, your employers, to sign this petition to the key Senators. Over 200 of the Top companies have already signed up this petition. We need more companies to sign up. If your employer's business directly or indirectly depends on innovation and technology, then your employer will appreciate you letting them know about this development.



The deadline for signing this letter is now extended to 26th June.

Letter to employers (To request employers to sign the petition)

Petition from employers - (Petition to key Senators)

Here is a sample format for requesting your HR VP/Head to sign the above petition.



2.) Twitter. Support HR3012 Twitter Campaign

3.) Facebook. Spread the word and tell your friends. Join the Facebook Campaign.

3.) Contribute. Support and Contribute to Immigration Voice


What is the Risk to HR 3012 ?


Unfortunately, some immigration lawyers and their advocacy groups in DC are against this amendment. We believe that this fringe group has always advocated a system where immigrants are taken advantage of.

Immigration Lawyers have chosen to be on the wrong side of history. They want to protect companies that are abusing the system. This set of Immigration lawyers want to side with companies that are under-cutting US workers and committing fraud.

It’s time for us to standup to speak for ourselves and tell everyone that immigration lawyers don't represent immigrants. When it comes to advocacy, immigration lawyers and their groups only represent their own special interest to design the system to keep more people in limbo for longer so that they can pocket more money through renewals and extension of applications for visas and work-permits while immigrants wait forever in their green card process. A large percentage of these immigration lawyers have a vested interest in keeping the immigration process slow and confusing. They will oppose streamlining or simplifying the process that would help employers and employees.

Housing market is not about realtors; housing market is about living the American Dream and home ownership. Likewise, the purpose of immigration system is not to help immigration lawyers line their pockets with more cash. Immigration system is about America, US Employers and immigrants. It’s time for us to raise our voice and say it loud, that immigration lawyers or their group doesn't represent Immigrants.

Ask your employer to stand on the right side of history and support a change for you, a change which has been long awaited. Ask your employer to do the right thing NOW!

Aman Kapoor

Immigration Voice

ImmigrationVoice.org - Home (http://www.ImmigrationVoice.org)

checkmet64
06-26-2012, 09:00 AM
Received an below email from IV at 6:09 AM today

Dear Immigration Voice Member:

For past few months, we have been involved in the discussion to find a way to move forward HR3012 – the bill to remove per-country ceilings.

With the leadership of Senator Grassley (R-IA) and Senator Schumer (D-NY), last week, the two Senate offices have worked out a deal on an amendment to H.R. 3012. Immigration Voice applauds Senator Grassley and Senator Schumer for their leadership.



The proposed amendment has been carefully vetted by Congressional staff. This amendment makes a very good bill, even better. The amendment is balanced in a way where a small fraction of employers with more than 100 employees and 15% employees on H1 (L1/J1 is not part of 15%) visa will be audited. Again, the amendment is to audit employers (not employees). The amendment does not put any restriction on the employers or employees. If employers are not committing fraud, if they are not abusing the system, then there is nothing to fear.

As we all know, there are some bad employers out there who take advantage of the system. This amendment is designed to root out companies engaged in fraud or exploitation. A large number of coalition, trade groups and the entire large Hi-tech industry (you know all the large companies) are fully on-board with this amendment. The reason being, they are not afraid of audit, they do not have anything to hide, they don't game the system. These over 200 companies are the good citizens of the non-immigrant and immigrant visa system.


ACTION ITEMS



1.) Petition to employers: Now we need your help to reach out to more companies, your employers, to sign this petition to the key Senators. Over 200 of the Top companies have already signed up this petition. We need more companies to sign up. If your employer's business directly or indirectly depends on innovation and technology, then your employer will appreciate you letting them know about this development.



The deadline for signing this letter is now extended to 26th June.

Letter to employers (To request employers to sign the petition)

Petition from employers - (Petition to key Senators)

Here is a sample format for requesting your HR VP/Head to sign the above petition.



2.) Twitter. Support HR3012 Twitter Campaign

3.) Facebook. Spread the word and tell your friends. Join the Facebook Campaign.

3.) Contribute. Support and Contribute to Immigration Voice


What is the Risk to HR 3012 ?


Unfortunately, some immigration lawyers and their advocacy groups in DC are against this amendment. We believe that this fringe group has always advocated a system where immigrants are taken advantage of.

Immigration Lawyers have chosen to be on the wrong side of history. They want to protect companies that are abusing the system. This set of Immigration lawyers want to side with companies that are under-cutting US workers and committing fraud.

It’s time for us to standup to speak for ourselves and tell everyone that immigration lawyers don't represent immigrants. When it comes to advocacy, immigration lawyers and their groups only represent their own special interest to design the system to keep more people in limbo for longer so that they can pocket more money through renewals and extension of applications for visas and work-permits while immigrants wait forever in their green card process. A large percentage of these immigration lawyers have a vested interest in keeping the immigration process slow and confusing. They will oppose streamlining or simplifying the process that would help employers and employees.

Housing market is not about realtors; housing market is about living the American Dream and home ownership. Likewise, the purpose of immigration system is not to help immigration lawyers line their pockets with more cash. Immigration system is about America, US Employers and immigrants. It’s time for us to raise our voice and say it loud, that immigration lawyers or their group doesn't represent Immigrants.

Ask your employer to stand on the right side of history and support a change for you, a change which has been long awaited. Ask your employer to do the right thing NOW!

Aman Kapoor

Immigration Voice

ImmigrationVoice.org - Home (http://www.ImmigrationVoice.org)

Didn't receive the news letter yet. Check the spam folder too, the email id is correct to. Verified this by sending my self an email.

arun_ramani
06-26-2012, 09:59 AM
Please find the paypal trans id - 19S27835B71728817 100$. All the best !! Please let us know if we need to call local senators.

Thanks for all your effort.

dts
06-26-2012, 10:31 AM
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 2NU22528M28601503.

Small contribution of $100 ( on top of previous $200 )

Lets spread word through FB. I see very few likes on FB.

Got petition signed by three more citizen friends who owns company.

superguy
06-26-2012, 10:54 AM
guys,
Just contributed 100$ for this cause thru paypal.
transaction id: 1PH19102PL6304931

This is in addition to monthly subscription which i am doing from last 6 months.

digital2k
06-26-2012, 11:09 AM
Commitment for Fairness
You just made a payment of$100.00 USD
Your receipt number for this payment is: 5111-2768-9457-7411
Here is per commitment for Fairness
Your receipt number for this payment is: 5410-9030-6475-6552.
You sent a payment of $100.00 USD to Immigration Voice.
Looking forward for next.

Here is a commitment for Fairness :
Daily $50 until June 26th
in addition to $50 Subscription and past contirbutions ...
Since $100 is minimum, I'll post every 2nd day update after contribution.
Also I'm reaching to all people I know, to participate in all action items.
Subscription Number: S-161437014G057690B
$50.00 USD for each month, for 6 installments

Please be part of the historic moments.
We appreciate IV Team, Members efforts ...

gujju
06-26-2012, 12:30 PM
All,

Lets not deviate from the action item..We need to get signatures from more companies.
I have contacted friends, family ,acquaintances and everybody is helping.So far I have got 25 confirmations.Also everyone should try to contact their CPA's as they are lot of help and they know lots of clients/companies .I contacted 2 of them and they asked their clients and lots of more companies are signing up.
Come on Guys.Lets make this happen and be a part of history.

Thanks,
Gujju

shyamuk1235
06-26-2012, 12:41 PM
Just contributed 100 dollars, Thanks IV for the hard work

justice4all
06-26-2012, 01:26 PM
Done. Action Item. Requested my employer HR to sign the online petition..


Keep going IV.

Suva
06-26-2012, 02:23 PM
I have received the confirmation from my HR that they have signed the petition today.

I have sent an email to HR asking them to sign this petition. Hoping for a positive response from them.

pappu
06-26-2012, 02:39 PM
I have received the confirmation from my HR that they have signed the petition today.

Thank you.

dkshitij
06-26-2012, 03:08 PM
I received confirmation from HR that my company signed the petition. Yay!

Go IV go!

meghana.garise
06-26-2012, 03:16 PM
Hi,
I am working with my HR/VP asking them to sign the petition, but it may not be done today. Will signing it tomorrow be too late?

nareshk78
06-26-2012, 03:39 PM
Is there a deadline for this? I reached out to my employer and few friends I know. they can do it only by weekend.

Suva
06-26-2012, 03:41 PM
Here is the latest update from lawyer's website on HR-3012. They recognizes IV in the article below
ILW.COM - immigration news: Immigration Daily June 26, 2012 (http://www.ilw.com/immigrationdaily/digest/2012,0626.shtm)

vidyas_m
06-26-2012, 03:42 PM
Is there a deadline for this? I reached out to my employer and few friends I know. they can do it only by weekend.

Deadline is today, June 26th!

smiles
06-26-2012, 03:53 PM
Received Confirmation from 'Immigration department' that my Company (65K Employees globally) also signed the petition in the morning...

gsiskind
06-26-2012, 04:05 PM
I am a long time supporter of Immigration Voice and also have strongly supported HR 3012. But I think IV's email this morning is incredibly unfair. Chuck Grassley is proposing to give sweeping new powers to the US Department of Labor which is not good news for anyone who is pro-immigration. The Labor Department sees as its mission not protecting all workers but protecting AMERICAN workers. Chuck Grassley is no friend of immigrants. He has been the most anti-immigrant member of the Senate for years and to pretend that anything he is adding to this bill is good for immigrants is disingenuous.

3012 may still be worth supporting even with Grassley's bad language, but to attack the immigration bar for fighting to keep out this language is simply unjust. Most of my colleagues who handle business and employment immigration matters have passed up for more lucrative practices (I started out in mergers and acquisitions and can tell you that I'd have a lot more saved for my retirement if I stayed in that field) not because we love companies, but because we believe immigration is good for America and being in immigration law is also a way to help people. I think if would have been far better if IV would simply have said that this was a tough deal to make and many won't be happy rather than defaming members of other pro-immigration groups that happen to disagree.

WetHead
06-26-2012, 04:38 PM
Greg,
Can you describe the sweeping powers that the department would get under the amendment. Perhaps a few examples may help illustrate the point

dts
06-26-2012, 04:39 PM
Many folks requested to sign petition to various companies using all possible resources.
However many companies have official process to sign petition and currently this is in progress.
Can dedaline be extended for at least a week? Many more companies would be in.
IV memebers are restlessly trying more and more companies to bring on agreement.
IV core team, Please help by extending deadline.

bibliophile2020
06-26-2012, 04:40 PM
I guess who have no other choice. I don't want to be in limbo for ever. The situation we are in is not acceptable.

greyhair
06-26-2012, 04:45 PM
Many folks requested to sign petition to various companies using all possible resources.
However many companies have official process to sign petition and currently this is in progress.
Can dedaline be extended for at least a week? Many more companies would be in.
IV memebers are restlessly trying more and more companies to bring on agreement.
IV core team, Please help by extending deadline.

Yes, I would like to request to extend the deadline for signing the letter. I work for Accenture. My Manager/VP have escalated this up the chain. So many of my colleagues are also waiting for the response.

CaliHoneB
06-26-2012, 05:02 PM
I am a long time supporter of Immigration Voice and also have strongly supported HR 3012. But I think IV's email this morning is incredibly unfair. Chuck Grassley is proposing to give sweeping new powers to the US Department of Labor which is not good news for anyone who is pro-immigration. The Labor Department sees as its mission not protecting all workers but protecting AMERICAN workers. Chuck Grassley is no friend of immigrants. He has been the most anti-immigrant member of the Senate for years and to pretend that anything he is adding to this bill is good for immigrants is disingenuous.

3012 may still be worth supporting even with Grassley's bad language, but to attack the immigration bar for fighting to keep out this language is simply unjust. Most of my colleagues who handle business and employment immigration matters have passed up for more lucrative practices (I started out in mergers and acquisitions and can tell you that I'd have a lot more saved for my retirement if I stayed in that field) not because we love companies, but because we believe immigration is good for America and being in immigration law is also a way to help people. I think if would have been far better if IV would simply have said that this was a tough deal to make and many won't be happy rather than defaming members of other pro-immigration groups that happen to disagree.

I agree that Grassley suddenly didn't fall in love with Immigrant community but like most people I don't understand what is being given up ? Can you please elaborate what sweeping powers are being given to DOL? Not having Judicial committee oversight is what you are referring to? Can you please provide an example

Thanks

Administrator2
06-26-2012, 05:08 PM
Greg,

Thanks for your continued support. We appreciate it very much. However, we strongly disagree with your premises of ‘My-Way or the High-Way’.

We totally disagree with your position for “NEVER EVER NEGOTIATING” with Senator Grassley. This is the reason why we have a broken Congress with less than 8% approval rating. This is the reason why we have 1 million people in the backlogs with wait times spanning over decades. We also disagree with your notion that Grassley-Schumer amendment is ground shattering or non-negotiable. As you may already know, most large companies agree with the amendment. Immigrants stuck in the backlog, they agree with the amendment. I'm confident that most Americans will agree with the amendment. But Immigration lawyers group have decided to oppose the amendment. How can you ever get anything done if one is never willing to compromise, ever? How will you explain this to those who have to wait for decades, and some of them would be your clients?

In the newsletter, we were careful to mention that "most immigration lawyer" and not "all immigration lawyers", which is an important distinction. Although our goal is not to alienate anyone, I think you would agree that the first step to any change is to call and define the things the way they are. And in that effort, as you can tell, we are not afraid to define and put the right label on things based on the experience of Immigration Voice members. After the amendment was leaked via Immigration lawyer group's website, we had to tell it to IV members that what is going on. And in the process, we are not here to pick a fight, but if speaking the truth means we don't have a choice, then we must.

With HR3012, I would suggest that you follow your conviction. If you believe that HR3012 is the right bill, then any email/newsletter will not deter you from your belief. For example, I receive a lot of messages from a lot of people all day along, but we do what we believe in. Although at a lot different magnitude, but to make my point, I must say that from our history, we have seen countless times when there were those who stood against slavery, even when they knew that somehow they will profit or benefit from slavery. But in the end, they did the right thing because that is what they believe in. Likewise, you have a choice as well. You could be part of the system and be afraid to speak up when you see something is wrong, maybe because it’s difficult to speak up against the establishment/well oiled machinery. But whatever may be the reason, and whatever you decide with your support for HR3012, we are confident that you will be true to your conviction.

I commend you for supporting and speaking in favor of HR3012 and I'm sure you serve your clients well.

mahujam
06-26-2012, 05:20 PM
Greg,

You wanna share where you differ with this ammendment and how DOL gets sweeping powers ?

DallasBlue
06-26-2012, 05:45 PM
Hi,
I am working with my HR/VP asking them to sign the petition, but it may not be done today. Will signing it tomorrow be too late?

better late than Never.

amulchandra
06-26-2012, 05:50 PM
Thank you very much for speaking out what was there exactly in my mind. Immigrants come to this great country with lots of hope and aspirations. After they come here only they realize that we are used in every possible manner without being rewarded. Govt takes taxes,Social Security contributions for decades but no green card in sight yet. Employers extract maximum out of the poor bonded H1bs for decades but no green card in sight yet. USCIS charges exorbitant fees for decades for h1b extensions, PERM, I-140 and I-485 filings. Immigration lawyers bill us a fortune for filing all the steps mentioned before.Finally for politicians we are soccer balls being kicked in all directions never.

After reading your post I felt like an idiot for playing along till date.

Amul

seahawks
06-26-2012, 05:57 PM
Got confirmation from vendor companies on signing the petition and they have all done it today. The company I work for also has signed it as they are already members and did it before I asked for it. Asked my wife and she followed up with her company but got no response yet. She is following up again today. Other than that, asked friends in Expedia, Amazon, Facebook, Nuance, T-Mobile, ATT, Zynga, Google, Microsoft to get their companies on board. Some of them have already signed is what they reported.

Suva
06-26-2012, 05:57 PM
Excellent post. I completely agree with you.

forever_waiting
06-26-2012, 05:57 PM
Thank you for your comments Mr.Siskind.

1) We are not "smoking" anything, as you seem to indicate in your website post
2) As you yourself point out on your blog "There is a faction supporting the bill since the bill would eliminate per-country quotas, the last remaining vestige of the racism of the National Origin quotas".
Eliminating a "vestige of racism" should be a no-brainer correct?
3) After being stuck for 10 years waiting in line (after getting a degree from an University in the US), after collecting an immigration file thick enough to fill up several shelves, after going through several visa applications - F1, H1B, EAD, Labor etc etc.... I am cognizant enough to gather from the amendment text that it not going to create any havoc. I do not see any reason for paranoia

4) Yes there will be more audits but not too much more than what the DoL is carrying out today anyway. If you spend time on this forum (like most of us do...becomes a routine after waiting in queue for 10 years) you will notice that is a fact.

It will be beneficial if a bill that will help thousands of folks finally get a GC after years of wait, is not stopped by the folks who are supposed to be on our side.

I am a long time supporter of Immigration Voice and also have strongly supported HR 3012. But I think IV's email this morning is incredibly unfair. Chuck Grassley is proposing to give sweeping new powers to the US Department of Labor which is not good news for anyone who is pro-immigration. The Labor Department sees as its mission not protecting all workers but protecting AMERICAN workers. Chuck Grassley is no friend of immigrants. He has been the most anti-immigrant member of the Senate for years and to pretend that anything he is adding to this bill is good for immigrants is disingenuous.

3012 may still be worth supporting even with Grassley's bad language, but to attack the immigration bar for fighting to keep out this language is simply unjust. Most of my colleagues who handle business and employment immigration matters have passed up for more lucrative practices (I started out in mergers and acquisitions and can tell you that I'd have a lot more saved for my retirement if I stayed in that field) not because we love companies, but because we believe immigration is good for America and being in immigration law is also a way to help people. I think if would have been far better if IV would simply have said that this was a tough deal to make and many won't be happy rather than defaming members of other pro-immigration groups that happen to disagree.

DallasBlue
06-26-2012, 06:01 PM
Greg ,why doesnt AILA pursue derivative count off and get this (quote below) admin fix from White house/DHS/DOS/USCIS ?





wrote about the derivative counts off to DOS at

http://contact-us.state.gov/app/ask/


Topic: consular|working in US | Greencards
subject: derivative counts

Question:

Greetings,

Could your office please look into and change the policy on derivate visa counts for employment based category. As articulated at
www.ilw.com/articles/2012,0201-endelman.shtm

We know of no explicit authorization for derivative family members to be counted under either the Employment Based or Family Based preference in the Immigration and Nationality Act. Let us examine what INA § 203(d) says:


A spouse of child defined in subparagraphs (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 1101(b) of this title shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section, be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
There is nothing here that explicitly authorizes or mandates the counting of family members under the preference quotas. While a derivative is “entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration” as the principal alien, nothing requires that family members also be given their own numbers. Suppose, for example, that there is only one visa number left in a fiscal year for the EB-2 category and that the last principal beneficiary who gets this number has a spouse and 6 children. What happens to them? Ought they not be accorded “the same status and the same order of consideration?” Should only the principal become an LPR while everyone else waits till next year? What if visa retrogression sets in and the family has to wait, maybe for years? This does not make sense. Is there not sufficient ambiguity in INA § 203(d) to argue that family members should not be counted against the cap? We do not contend that they should be completely exempted from being counted. As stated in INA 203 § (d), family members should be given the “same status and the same order of consideration” as the principal. Hence, if there is no visa number for the principal, the rest of the family does not get in. If, on the other hand, there is a single remaining visa number for the principal, the family members, however many there are, ought to be “entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration as the principal.”

Thanking you




can we everyone send this to the white advisor? Advise the Advisor | The White House

Advise the Advisor | The White House


How President Obama Can Erase Immigrant Visa Backlogs with the Stroke of A Pen

ilw.com/articles/2012,0201-endelman.shtm


ILW.COM - immigration news:Why We Can’t Wait: How President Obama Can Erase Immigrant Visa Backlogs with the Stroke of A Pen


At this point, if one files a labor certification in 2011 under the employment-based third preference for India, it will take 70 years before the green card materializes![3] The adult son or daughter who was born in Mexico of a US citizen does much better relatively under the family-based first preference, but the wait is still close to 20 years! Such a hopeless wait is simply untenable for an employer who has unsuccessfully tested the US labor market for much needed skills in short supply. It is similarly inhumane for a parent to yearn for so long to reunite with her son. Mind you, we are talking here about legal immigration, and those who rail against unauthorized immigrants accuse them for not getting into the line. But when the avenues for legal immigration are few and the lines endless, the system has broken and we are dealing with a situation, in the face of Congressional paralysis, that is going from bad to abysmal. We acknowledge that the House recently passed H.R. 3012, the Fairness for High Skilled Immigrants Act on September 22, 2011 by a landslide vote of 389-15, which if passed, will eliminate the employment-based per country limits and increase the family-based per country cap from 7% to 15%. , H.R 3012,on the other hand, will not increase the overall number of immigrant visas. While it may reduce the waiting times for China and India in the employment-based preferences, nationals of all other countries may experience backlogs, especially in the employment-based second preference. Thus, the problems of backlogs will still remain. While we acknowledge that only Congress can create more avenues for legal immigration, is there a legal basis for an interpretation that would dramatically reduce, or even eliminate, such a long wait under the EB and FB preferences? We think there is.

We know of no explicit authorization for derivative family members to be counted under either the Employment Based or Family Based preference in the Immigration and Nationality Act. Let us examine what INA § 203(d) says:


A spouse of child defined in subparagraphs (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 1101(b) of this title shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section, be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
There is nothing here that explicitly authorizes or mandates the counting of family members under the preference quotas. While a derivative is “entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration” as the principal alien, nothing requires that family members also be given their own numbers. Suppose, for example, that there is only one visa number left in a fiscal year for the EB-2 category and that the last principal beneficiary who gets this number has a spouse and 6 children. What happens to them? Ought they not be accorded “the same status and the same order of consideration?” Should only the principal become an LPR while everyone else waits till next year? What if visa retrogression sets in and the family has to wait, maybe for years? This does not make sense. Is there not sufficient ambiguity in INA § 203(d) to argue that family members should not be counted against the cap? We do not contend that they should be completely exempted from being counted. As stated in INA 203 § (d), family members should be given the “same status and the same order of consideration” as the principal. Hence, if there is no visa number for the principal, the rest of the family does not get in. If, on the other hand, there is a single remaining visa number for the principal, the family members, however many there are, ought to be “entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration as the principal.”





I am a long time supporter of Immigration Voice and also have strongly supported HR 3012. But I think IV's email this morning is incredibly unfair. Chuck Grassley is proposing to give sweeping new powers to the US Department of Labor which is not good news for anyone who is pro-immigration. The Labor Department sees as its mission not protecting all workers but protecting AMERICAN workers. Chuck Grassley is no friend of immigrants. He has been the most anti-immigrant member of the Senate for years and to pretend that anything he is adding to this bill is good for immigrants is disingenuous.

3012 may still be worth supporting even with Grassley's bad language, but to attack the immigration bar for fighting to keep out this language is simply unjust. Most of my colleagues who handle business and employment immigration matters have passed up for more lucrative practices (I started out in mergers and acquisitions and can tell you that I'd have a lot more saved for my retirement if I stayed in that field) not because we love companies, but because we believe immigration is good for America and being in immigration law is also a way to help people. I think if would have been far better if IV would simply have said that this was a tough deal to make and many won't be happy rather than defaming members of other pro-immigration groups that happen to disagree.

Robert Kumar
06-26-2012, 06:08 PM
I am a long time supporter of Immigration Voice and also have strongly supported HR 3012. But I think IV's email this morning is incredibly unfair. Chuck Grassley is proposing to give sweeping new powers to the US Department of Labor which is not good news for anyone who is pro-immigration. The Labor Department sees as its mission not protecting all workers but protecting AMERICAN workers. Chuck Grassley is no friend of immigrants. He has been the most anti-immigrant member of the Senate for years and to pretend that anything he is adding to this bill is good for immigrants is disingenuous.

3012 may still be worth supporting even with Grassley's bad language, but to attack the immigration bar for fighting to keep out this language is simply unjust. Most of my colleagues who handle business and employment immigration matters have passed up for more lucrative practices (I started out in mergers and acquisitions and can tell you that I'd have a lot more saved for my retirement if I stayed in that field) not because we love companies, but because we believe immigration is good for America and being in immigration law is also a way to help people. I think if would have been far better if IV would simply have said that this was a tough deal to make and many won't be happy rather than defaming members of other pro-immigration groups that happen to disagree.

The Bill and proposals are going in the right direction. There is some fraud in H1B system, that MUST be cleaned anyways. Most of us here are hardworking, smart, and follow the system as meant to be. So we strongly support it. We do not have issue with this ANY level of scrutiny on H1B system. The cleaner the better for everyone.

DallasBlue
06-26-2012, 06:09 PM
Greg ,why doesnt AILA pursue derivative count off and get this (quote below) admin fix from White house/DHS/DOS/USCIS ?





wrote about the derivative counts off to DOS at

http://contact-us.state.gov/app/ask/


Topic: consular|working in US | Greencards
subject: derivative counts

Question:

Greetings,

Could your office please look into and change the policy on derivate visa counts for employment based category. As articulated at
www.ilw.com/articles/2012,0201-endelman.shtm

We know of no explicit authorization for derivative family members to be counted under either the Employment Based or Family Based preference in the Immigration and Nationality Act. Let us examine what INA § 203(d) says:


A spouse of child defined in subparagraphs (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 1101(b) of this title shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section, be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
There is nothing here that explicitly authorizes or mandates the counting of family members under the preference quotas. While a derivative is “entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration” as the principal alien, nothing requires that family members also be given their own numbers. Suppose, for example, that there is only one visa number left in a fiscal year for the EB-2 category and that the last principal beneficiary who gets this number has a spouse and 6 children. What happens to them? Ought they not be accorded “the same status and the same order of consideration?” Should only the principal become an LPR while everyone else waits till next year? What if visa retrogression sets in and the family has to wait, maybe for years? This does not make sense. Is there not sufficient ambiguity in INA § 203(d) to argue that family members should not be counted against the cap? We do not contend that they should be completely exempted from being counted. As stated in INA 203 § (d), family members should be given the “same status and the same order of consideration” as the principal. Hence, if there is no visa number for the principal, the rest of the family does not get in. If, on the other hand, there is a single remaining visa number for the principal, the family members, however many there are, ought to be “entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration as the principal.”

Thanking you




can we everyone send this to the white advisor? Advise the Advisor | The White House

Advise the Advisor | The White House


How President Obama Can Erase Immigrant Visa Backlogs with the Stroke of A Pen

ilw.com/articles/2012,0201-endelman.shtm


ILW.COM - immigration news:Why We Can’t Wait: How President Obama Can Erase Immigrant Visa Backlogs with the Stroke of A Pen


At this point, if one files a labor certification in 2011 under the employment-based third preference for India, it will take 70 years before the green card materializes![3] The adult son or daughter who was born in Mexico of a US citizen does much better relatively under the family-based first preference, but the wait is still close to 20 years! Such a hopeless wait is simply untenable for an employer who has unsuccessfully tested the US labor market for much needed skills in short supply. It is similarly inhumane for a parent to yearn for so long to reunite with her son. Mind you, we are talking here about legal immigration, and those who rail against unauthorized immigrants accuse them for not getting into the line. But when the avenues for legal immigration are few and the lines endless, the system has broken and we are dealing with a situation, in the face of Congressional paralysis, that is going from bad to abysmal. We acknowledge that the House recently passed H.R. 3012, the Fairness for High Skilled Immigrants Act on September 22, 2011 by a landslide vote of 389-15, which if passed, will eliminate the employment-based per country limits and increase the family-based per country cap from 7% to 15%. , H.R 3012,on the other hand, will not increase the overall number of immigrant visas. While it may reduce the waiting times for China and India in the employment-based preferences, nationals of all other countries may experience backlogs, especially in the employment-based second preference. Thus, the problems of backlogs will still remain. While we acknowledge that only Congress can create more avenues for legal immigration, is there a legal basis for an interpretation that would dramatically reduce, or even eliminate, such a long wait under the EB and FB preferences? We think there is.

We know of no explicit authorization for derivative family members to be counted under either the Employment Based or Family Based preference in the Immigration and Nationality Act. Let us examine what INA § 203(d) says:


A spouse of child defined in subparagraphs (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 1101(b) of this title shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section, be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
There is nothing here that explicitly authorizes or mandates the counting of family members under the preference quotas. While a derivative is “entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration” as the principal alien, nothing requires that family members also be given their own numbers. Suppose, for example, that there is only one visa number left in a fiscal year for the EB-2 category and that the last principal beneficiary who gets this number has a spouse and 6 children. What happens to them? Ought they not be accorded “the same status and the same order of consideration?” Should only the principal become an LPR while everyone else waits till next year? What if visa retrogression sets in and the family has to wait, maybe for years? This does not make sense. Is there not sufficient ambiguity in INA § 203(d) to argue that family members should not be counted against the cap? We do not contend that they should be completely exempted from being counted. As stated in INA 203 § (d), family members should be given the “same status and the same order of consideration” as the principal. Hence, if there is no visa number for the principal, the rest of the family does not get in. If, on the other hand, there is a single remaining visa number for the principal, the family members, however many there are, ought to be “entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration as the principal.”





I am a long time supporter of Immigration Voice and also have strongly supported HR 3012. But I think IV's email this morning is incredibly unfair. Chuck Grassley is proposing to give sweeping new powers to the US Department of Labor which is not good news for anyone who is pro-immigration. The Labor Department sees as its mission not protecting all workers but protecting AMERICAN workers. Chuck Grassley is no friend of immigrants. He has been the most anti-immigrant member of the Senate for years and to pretend that anything he is adding to this bill is good for immigrants is disingenuous.

3012 may still be worth supporting even with Grassley's bad language, but to attack the immigration bar for fighting to keep out this language is simply unjust. Most of my colleagues who handle business and employment immigration matters have passed up for more lucrative practices (I started out in mergers and acquisitions and can tell you that I'd have a lot more saved for my retirement if I stayed in that field) not because we love companies, but because we believe immigration is good for America and being in immigration law is also a way to help people. I think if would have been far better if IV would simply have said that this was a tough deal to make and many won't be happy rather than defaming members of other pro-immigration groups that happen to disagree.

bibliophile2020
06-26-2012, 06:24 PM
We will accept anything other than Status quo.
Go HR3012. Down with modern day slavery and discrimination

dts
06-26-2012, 06:28 PM
I am a long time supporter of Immigration Voice and also have strongly supported HR 3012. But I think IV's email this morning is incredibly unfair. Chuck Grassley is proposing to give sweeping new powers to the US Department of Labor which is not good news for anyone who is pro-immigration. The Labor Department sees as its mission not protecting all workers but protecting AMERICAN workers. Chuck Grassley is no friend of immigrants. He has been the most anti-immigrant member of the Senate for years and to pretend that anything he is adding to this bill is good for immigrants is disingenuous.

3012 may still be worth supporting even with Grassley's bad language, but to attack the immigration bar for fighting to keep out this language is simply unjust. Most of my colleagues who handle business and employment immigration matters have passed up for more lucrative practices (I started out in mergers and acquisitions and can tell you that I'd have a lot more saved for my retirement if I stayed in that field) not because we love companies, but because we believe immigration is good for America and being in immigration law is also a way to help people. I think if would have been far better if IV would simply have said that this was a tough deal to make and many won't be happy rather than defaming members of other pro-immigration groups that happen to disagree.

Greg,
AILA is missing a point.
Because of enhance company scrutiny, lawyers can double or triple their rate.
Just inform to AILA members and sure everyone will start supporting this bill without even looking at its content.

looivy
06-26-2012, 06:38 PM
Greg -

You surely must have stood in a line at a Disney park for 1 hour waiting your turn for a ride and that must have made you mad as hell. Now, let me also add a twist. Some person who happened to have been born in Zimbabwe or Pakistan or an undersubscribed country is allowed to go directly to the ride ahead of everybody in the line. Reason: He is from Zimbabwe/Pakistan/etc and no other material differnce (assume he is a male, has a family like you etc etc).

To help you relate to my pain, amplify your frustration by the numbers of hours in 8 years for me and teh number of hours in 10 years for others. Hope you can sense my frustration.

Now, let me ask you one different question. Why would you not want fradulent employers to be audited? If an employer is spotless and has followed the required immigration policies to the letter T, it should not be of any concern.

I think DOL's mission is to protect American workers and there is nothing wrong with that. Please explain to me why are you saying that what DOL is doing is bad.

You have been a strong supporter of HR 3012 on your blog and website so I commend you on that. I would just say that you got a little worked up because a mention of some bad apples in the immigration lawyer community was brought forth. Who does not have bad apples in their midst? To categorically assume that all immigration lawyers are inherently good would be a stretch.

One thing I can tell you is that I am definitely not smoking or drinking. Are you? Probably not.

Peace.

I am a long time supporter of Immigration Voice and also have strongly supported HR 3012. But I think IV's email this morning is incredibly unfair. Chuck Grassley is proposing to give sweeping new powers to the US Department of Labor which is not good news for anyone who is pro-immigration. The Labor Department sees as its mission not protecting all workers but protecting AMERICAN workers. Chuck Grassley is no friend of immigrants. He has been the most anti-immigrant member of the Senate for years and to pretend that anything he is adding to this bill is good for immigrants is disingenuous.

3012 may still be worth supporting even with Grassley's bad language, but to attack the immigration bar for fighting to keep out this language is simply unjust. Most of my colleagues who handle business and employment immigration matters have passed up for more lucrative practices (I started out in mergers and acquisitions and can tell you that I'd have a lot more saved for my retirement if I stayed in that field) not because we love companies, but because we believe immigration is good for America and being in immigration law is also a way to help people. I think if would have been far better if IV would simply have said that this was a tough deal to make and many won't be happy rather than defaming members of other pro-immigration groups that happen to disagree.

thomachan72
06-26-2012, 07:08 PM
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Pls stop arguing or trying to convince Greg about our motives, goals and actions. Admin has already answered to his post and that should be enough. lets focus on our action items with all our heart and passion. Pls also believe in your hearts that we will be victorious. Have no doubt about this. even if a tsunami of information is put out against the posibility of 3012 trust not that information but your own heart and actions. we will win.

neelu8
06-26-2012, 08:33 PM
There is lot of misinformation, fear and confusion being spread on different forums about the amendment (courtesy immigration lawyers and their groups). Below facts should be helpful to dispel some of those.

As mentioned in the newsletter, IV has been part of every negotiation discussion with the Senators offices right from the beginning and every word/letter of the bill and amendment at its various stages has been thoroughly vetted, understood and agreed upon by IV.

- The amendment impacts employers, NOT employees. An employer will be audited if it employs more than 15% H1B visa workers and has more than 100 employees. This is infact good for immigrants as employers can no longer hold them bondage on H1b but will have the incentive to file for GC sooner. Only certain employers whose business model is based on exploiting their workers and holding them back will be impacted by this audit.

- Again, only the employers get audited and if they have done nothing wrong there's nothing to it. And unlike what Greg Siskind in his earlier post (and other lawyers on other forums) said it does not give DOL some imaginary super powers. The penalties/process/remedies to be imposed if a company is found in violation of the law and the reasons a company is found to be in violation of the law DOES NOT change from what it is today. Only difference is that currently a company is audited if DOL receives a complain against them (or raises some red flags) whereas with this amendment more companies will fall under the audit net automatically. Also if a company is found to not be in any violation after an audit they will not be audited for another 4 years (even if they exceed the 15% H1B employees number).

- Also employers will ONLY be AUDITED. They are not required to have less than 15% H1B employees as being suggested on some forums. There is no such limit.

This amendment actually makes the bill even better and is the commendable work of many to bring about a fruitful compromise between all parties.

smuggymba
06-26-2012, 09:00 PM
There is lot of misinformation, fear and confusion being spread on different forums about the amendment (courtesy some members of AILA). Below facts should be helpful to dispel some of those.

As mentioned in the newsletter, IV has been part of every negotiation discussion with the Senators offices right from the beginning and every word/letter of the bill and amendment at its various stages has been thoroughly vetted, understood and agreed upon by IV.

- The amendment impacts employers, NOT employees. An employer will be audited if it employs more than 15% H1B visa workers and has more than 100 employees. This is infact good for immigrants as employers can no longer hold them bondage on H1b but will have the incentive to file for GC sooner. Only certain employers whose business model is based on exploiting their workers and holding them back will be impacted by this audit.

- Again, only the employers get audited and if they have done nothing wrong there's nothing to it. And unlike what Greg Siskind in his earlier post (and other lawyers on other forums) said it does not give DOL some imaginary super powers. The penalties/process/remedies to be imposed if a company is found in violation of the law and the reasons a company is found to be in violation of the law DOES NOT change from what it is today. Only difference is that currently a company is audited if DOL receives a complain against them (or raises some red flags) whereas with this amendment more companies will fall under the audit net automatically. Also if a company is found to not be in any violation after an audit they will not be audited for another 4 years (even if they exceed the 15% H1B employees number).

- Also employers will ONLY be AUDITED. They are not required to have less than 15% H1B employees as being suggested on some forums. There is no such limit.

This amendment actually makes the bill even better and is the commendable work of many to bring about a fruitful compromise between all parties.

That's naaaaice. H1 fraudsters should be kicked out so that the genuine cases don't suffer.

imh1b
06-26-2012, 09:15 PM
Good thing about this amendment is that the only way for companies to keep immigrants is by applying for their greencard so that they soon become EAD holders and not counted as H1B. So the fastest way to get EAD will be to file in EB2 for all large companies. This is a wonderful amendment and will be great for immigrants and companies who are following the law. Those that are not following law fully will now follow law and help immigrants get greencards. It is a win win for all curent and future immigrants.

gsiskind
06-26-2012, 10:02 PM
It sounds nice to go after fraud until you understand that a normal, rational person's understanding of fraud does not resemble the government's. The USCIS fraud indicator checklist that was secretly leaked to places like my blog at ILW show the government considers employers with fewer than 25 employees, less than ten years operating and less than $10 million in revenue are to be treated as a fraud risk. Does that sound like a huge chunk of America's employers including just about every immigrant owned start up in the country? LCAs in H-1B cases are only reviewed now for completeness. Now DOL will pull LCAs they think might be fraudulent which impacts WORKERS as well as employees. If the LCA can't get approved, it is you the employee who suffer as much as the employer. Don't kid yourself. If the DOL sees any fraud indicator - even one that is as ridiculous as one of the ones noted above, they can take as much time as they want before approving the LCA and allowing the H-1B to proceed.

The amendment would also eliminate the specificity of circumstances DOL would need to show to launch an investigation which basically would allow DOL to investigate any employer at will. Again, if your employer is being investigated unjustly, do you think it won't eventually hurt you, the employee? Do you think an employer is going to want to go on to file a green card application with an agency that has unchecked power over employers.

The courts are also going to lose their power to to review what DOL is doing under a separate jurisdiction stripping provision. And, believe me, government agencies that have don't have to worry about a judge watching what they're doing act accordingly.

If you think that employers being punished by DOL doesn't have an impact on H-1B workers, talk to the hundreds of teachers employed by the Prince George's County School System who ended up being terminated after the DOL said that the teachers covering some of the government filing fees for their H-1Bs (itself an arguably illegal requirement of the DOL) was enough to bar the school system from using the H-1B program for two years. The teachers lost their jobs and the kids lost their teachers. Not exactly the happy result defenders of the DOL on this forum portray.

I want 3012. But this is a deal with the devil. Charles Grassley doesn't have a pro-immigration bone in his body.

vrs7734
06-26-2012, 10:30 PM
Greg,

For a second, even if I agree with all your explanation about how evil is this amendment from Grassley, do we have any other choice for a change?

As a ranking member of committee,Grassely will not allow any immigration bill to be passed, be it the Start up act or Cornyn's STEM bill.

There is still a good amount of time left for his term. If he is re elected God knows how long it will be again to introduce a bill.

Everybody opposes from their perspective, and they may be right in their place but I will take anything that I can get right now. If we wait to get a bill that makes everyone happy, I may not be alive to see my green card.

Thanks

greyhair
06-26-2012, 10:46 PM
Greg,

For a second, even if I agree with all your explanation about how evil is this amendment from Grassley, do we have any other choice for a change?



Yes there is a choice - keep paying your immigration lawyer.

gc_check
06-26-2012, 10:47 PM
It sounds nice to go after fraud until you understand that a normal, rational person's understanding of fraud does not resemble the government's. The USCIS fraud indicator checklist that was secretly leaked to places like my blog at ILW show the government considers employers with fewer than 25 employees, less than ten years operating and less than $10 million in revenue are to be treated as a fraud risk. Does that sound like a huge chunk of America's employers including just about every immigrant owned start up in the country? LCAs in H-1B cases are only reviewed now for completeness. Now DOL will pull LCAs they think might be fraudulent which impacts WORKERS as well as employees. If the LCA can't get approved, it is you the employee who suffer as much as the employer. Don't kid yourself. If the DOL sees any fraud indicator - even one that is as ridiculous as one of the ones noted above, they can take as much time as they want before approving the LCA and allowing the H-1B to proceed.

The amendment would also eliminate the specificity of circumstances DOL would need to show to launch an investigation which basically would allow DOL to investigate any employer at will. Again, if your employer is being investigated unjustly, do you think it won't eventually hurt you, the employee? Do you think an employer is going to want to go on to file a green card application with an agency that has unchecked power over employers.

The courts are also going to lose their power to to review what DOL is doing under a separate jurisdiction stripping provision. And, believe me, government agencies that have don't have to worry about a judge watching what they're doing act accordingly.

If you think that employers being punished by DOL doesn't have an impact on H-1B workers, talk to the hundreds of teachers employed by the Prince George's County School System who ended up being terminated after the DOL said that the teachers covering some of the government filing fees for their H-1Bs (itself an arguably illegal requirement of the DOL) was enough to bar the school system from using the H-1B program for two years. The teachers lost their jobs and the kids lost their teachers. Not exactly the happy result defenders of the DOL on this forum portray.

I want 3012. But this is a deal with the devil. Charles Grassley doesn't have a pro-immigration bone in his body.

It is good to see an Immigration Attorney's post in this forum. I am not a core or a volunteer, but just a regular member who try do the action items asked by IV when ever possible. I have been following this group since the time it got formed many years back...
Until Immigration Voice started highlighting the enormous difficulty prospective EB Immigration applicant's go through, this was not brought to light by any other group.

I have subscribed to email digest from ILW.COM visas, greencard and citizenship (http://www.ilw.com) and visit the Attorney's Greg's website / blog, etc for information, but the below statement is the post is some what disturbing to me.

>> Until you understand that a normal, rational person's understanding of fraud does not resemble the government's. >>

As long as a normal, rational person's understanding of fraud resemble the government's, the applicant's / employee will stay out trouble. For an Employer, he can find another Employee, but for many Employees, the immigration process is their future, career, life etc.. I see the amendment as a solution to address a "loop hole" that exists, though not perfect .

But as an Attorney, he might know the technicality better than a normal, rational person's but in this case, I do disagree and the amendment seems to be reasonable one in my view.

Request Greg to highlight what specific items is the cause of concern in the amendment. Is there any specific language in the amendment that people should be concerned on.

forever_waiting
06-26-2012, 10:55 PM
Being counted as a fraud risk is different than being actually held responsible for fraud and the application being rejected. Any firm can be considered a "fraud risk" but if there is no misrepresentation or falsification of facts in the immigration application, why would there be any issues in the adjucation of such an application? Yes there might be delays in processing of labor applications but the situation today is not exactly rosy. Bottomline is if it means getting a green card 10 years earlier...we do not care waiting for 2 years more for a labor approval. Apart from the hypothetical statements of "Something BAD will definitely happen", we have not heard a single strong reasoning of why we should get convinced and continue to wait in queue for 5-10 more years just because I belong to a certain country. So do you think the concept of per-country caps - "the last remaining vestige of the racism of the National Origin quotas" (as mentioned by you on your own website) should continue to exist in the high-skilled immigration system due to the preferences of a select few?
If you are truly suggesting the latter, I find that insulting and grossly insensitive.

For more than a decade we have heard only vague and fuzzy suggestions of how the system could improve...but none of the same opinionated experts have done one iota to actually address green card backlogs. Now that we finally have a chance to get out of this backlog mess, I cannot believe that the group trying to kill it is the one that thrives on the business generated by this immigrant community.

It sounds nice to go after fraud until you understand that a normal, rational person's understanding of fraud does not resemble the government's. The USCIS fraud indicator checklist that was secretly leaked to places like my blog at ILW show the government considers employers with fewer than 25 employees, less than ten years operating and less than $10 million in revenue are to be treated as a fraud risk. Does that sound like a huge chunk of America's employers including just about every immigrant owned start up in the country? LCAs in H-1B cases are only reviewed now for completeness. Now DOL will pull LCAs they think might be fraudulent which impacts WORKERS as well as employees. If the LCA can't get approved, it is you the employee who suffer as much as the employer. Don't kid yourself. If the DOL sees any fraud indicator - even one that is as ridiculous as one of the ones noted above, they can take as much time as they want before approving the LCA and allowing the H-1B to proceed.

The amendment would also eliminate the specificity of circumstances DOL would need to show to launch an investigation which basically would allow DOL to investigate any employer at will. Again, if your employer is being investigated unjustly, do you think it won't eventually hurt you, the employee? Do you think an employer is going to want to go on to file a green card application with an agency that has unchecked power over employers.

The courts are also going to lose their power to to review what DOL is doing under a separate jurisdiction stripping provision. And, believe me, government agencies that have don't have to worry about a judge watching what they're doing act accordingly.

If you think that employers being punished by DOL doesn't have an impact on H-1B workers, talk to the hundreds of teachers employed by the Prince George's County School System who ended up being terminated after the DOL said that the teachers covering some of the government filing fees for their H-1Bs (itself an arguably illegal requirement of the DOL) was enough to bar the school system from using the H-1B program for two years. The teachers lost their jobs and the kids lost their teachers. Not exactly the happy result defenders of the DOL on this forum portray.

I want 3012. But this is a deal with the devil. Charles Grassley doesn't have a pro-immigration bone in his body.

neelu8
06-26-2012, 11:10 PM
It sounds nice to go after fraud until you understand that a normal, rational person's understanding of fraud does not resemble the government's. The USCIS fraud indicator checklist that was secretly leaked to places like my blog at ILW show the government considers employers with fewer than 25 employees, less than ten years operating and less than $10 million in revenue are to be treated as a fraud risk. Does that sound like a huge chunk of America's employers including just about every immigrant owned start up in the country?

The amendment would also eliminate the specificity of circumstances DOL would need to show to launch an investigation which basically would allow DOL to investigate any employer at will. Again, if your employer is being investigated unjustly, do you think it won't eventually hurt you, the employee? Do you think an employer is going to want to go on to file a green card application with an agency that has unchecked power over employers.

The courts are also going to lose their power to to review what DOL is doing under a separate jurisdiction stripping provision. And, believe me, government agencies that have don't have to worry about a judge watching what they're doing act accordingly.

If you think that employers being punished by DOL doesn't have an impact on H-1B workers, talk to the hundreds of teachers employed by the Prince George's County School System who ended up being terminated after the DOL said that the teachers covering some of the government filing fees for their H-1Bs (itself an arguably illegal requirement of the DOL) was enough to bar the school system from using the H-1B program for two years. The teachers lost their jobs and the kids lost their teachers. Not exactly the happy result defenders of the DOL on this forum portray.

I want 3012. But this is a deal with the devil. Charles Grassley doesn't have a pro-immigration bone in his body.


Amendment clearly states audits for companies with more than 100 employees and if 15% of those employees are H1b. I am sure you didn't mean to misinform by suggesting start ups with less than 25 employees would be automatically impacted by it.

And ofcourse a separate supposed unclear provision completely unrelated to this bill or amendment will somehow make DOL more powerful than the judicial system and what better way for the DOL to use these super powers but by auditing good companies unjustly.

Oh and yes employers will hate the DOL because it has unchecked powers and hence won't file for green cards (for employees they need) because they clearly just want to spite the DOL.

Pardon my sarcasm.

makeallcurrent
06-26-2012, 11:27 PM
Greg,

Thanks for your feedback on this amendment, as always we appreciate your view points. You have your right to express your concerns, you are doing it through your website and I know you will continue to do so.

We don't think your concerns are valid in the larger context of immigration issues we have now.

Once again thank you for expressing your opinion in this forum, now please ssshhhh.....

old_hat
06-27-2012, 01:20 AM
Guys please be respectful towards Greg and do not ascribe motive unnecessarily. Govt. audit is always painful and unpredictable. It seems the provisions are drafted to specifically target "outsourcing" firms. I believe "executive order" can make it an easier process if needed.

I share concerns about "judicial review". Audit burden can be taken if their is a grievance redressal mechanism available in judicial review. IMHO, removal of judicial review will create more bottlenecks if some house member (presumably republican) sees it as expanding government.

forever_waiting
06-27-2012, 02:06 AM
Again..let us not confuse the issues. DoL audits are painful today and will continue to be painful. Even more so for genuinely fraudulent applicants and employers misrepresenting facts. From this amendment 1) Firms with more than 100 employees and more than 15% of those employees on H1B will be audited for compliance. 2) Only other statement to note is that DoL may audit companies employing H1B (that happens even today so its nothing new). We are as much at risk from DoL audits and I485 RFEs today than we could ever be.
From all aspects this amendment is actually a much watered down version of earlier Grassley proposals. Even several other immigration attorneys who are active online have acknowledged this.

In the larger context of the backlog issue plaguing the EB system for more than 10 years... removing per-country caps is required NOW. The two audit referenced notes in this amendment are a very small price to pay.There is no impending danger, as is being insinuated.

Guys please be respectful towards Greg and do not ascribe motive unnecessarily. Govt. audit is always painful and unpredictable. It seems the provisions are drafted to specifically target "outsourcing" firms. I believe "executive order" can make it an easier process if needed.

I share concerns about "judicial review". Audit burden can be taken if their is a grievance redressal mechanism available in judicial review. IMHO, removal of judicial review will create more bottlenecks if some house member (presumably republican) sees it as expanding government.

Robert Kumar
06-27-2012, 03:16 AM
So, one Greg posts a comment, and most of you lost track of the main action item in this thread???

Can we PLEASE stop this Greg thing. As one of us pointed out here, our Admin has answered rightly. So just focus on Action items.

thomachan72
06-27-2012, 05:18 AM
So, one Greg posts a comment, and most of you lost track of the main action item in this thread???

Can we PLEASE stop this Greg thing. As one of us pointed out here, our Admin has answered rightly. So just focus on Action items.

Absolutely and I humbly request Mr Greg Shiskind to avoid creating unwanted confusion amongst our members. There is no issue that can arise in future that we cannot tackle and the strength of IV is only increasing day by day. For now we all stand committed to create a compromise deal with Mr Grassley. WE SIMPLY CANNOT LET THIS CHANCE GO BY BECAUSE OF A REQUIREMENT TO COMPROMISE WITH SEN GRASSLEY. WE THE IV MEMBERS ARE TOO HEAVILY VESTED IN THIS ACTIVITY FOR YEARS NOW. THIS IS OUR ONLY CHANCE AND WE WILL DEAL WITH ANY PROBLEMS THAT ARISE STEP BY STEP. OUR VIGILANCE OVER SUCH PROBLEMS WILL INCREASE AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO FIGHT ANY ISSUES WITH THE TOTAL SUPPORT OF THE TECH-GROUP AND LIKE MNDED INDIVIDUALS.
Let me repeat this once again. Yes the bill might give such powers but it certainly does not allocate funds and resources to perform such activity on a very large scale. Let us not asume that even 1 in 100 employer of such catagory will be inspected in a given year given the limited resources DOL has now.
THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS: this is really a fight for those who are currently caged and chained by this unjust system. This is a fight to liberate those that would have had better lives and freedom if not for this unjust system. PEOPLE WHO ARE STUCK IN THE EB3 CAGE SINCE 2002/2003. WHO HAVE SACRIFICED ALL RIGHTS TO INVEST AND GROW JUST TO MAKE SURE THEIR KIDS REMAIN IN THE LAND THEY CALL THEIR COUNTRY.
And yes we certainly want those who are yet to join the US labor to comply with the existing laws. We want companies to follow law and regulations of this land.

h1techSlave
06-27-2012, 07:00 AM
Our COO sent us an email that she has signed the petition. Company name: CTIS, Inc.

amulchandra
06-27-2012, 08:49 AM
Yes let us stay focused. This shows how complex it is to get anything done related to legal immigration. I take this opportunity to commend the efforts of IV core for staying on course without getting dragged in multiple directions.

IV CORE we all salute you for your PERSEVERANCE AND COMMITMENT.

Thank you

Amul

thomachan72
06-27-2012, 09:01 AM
Yes let us stay focused. This shows how complex it is to get anything done related to legal immigration. I take this opportunity to commend the efforts of IV core for staying on course without getting dragged in multiple directions.

IV CORE we all salute you for your PERSEVERANCE AND COMMITMENT.

Thank you

Amul

Also we all back you 101%. I belong to the donor forum and have good insight into how much committed and sincere IV core group is so lay aside all your anxiety. Not only that also try to dispel such doubts/anxiety, if any, from your friends and lets all join to fight this to the finish. Extremely grateful to all members who have contacted their employers for us. Keep it going friends!!!

vsrinir
06-27-2012, 09:15 AM
Did everyone get the newsletter today? If not, please update your profile with correct email address. We will be sending info via newsletter as well.

I got the News letter.


IS THIS BILL A STAND ALONE BILL? OR ANY PLANS TO ATTACH IT TO E-3 BILL OR ANY OTHER BILL?


Your reply is highly appreciated.

waitingnwaiting
06-27-2012, 09:15 AM
I checked with my employer today and they signed yesterday evening. I also asked people from China, India in my apartment complex to contribute and join IV.
I humble contribution of $100 from my end today. Transaction ID #2EN45356MB4726322

coopheal
06-27-2012, 09:35 AM
Amendment clearly states audits for companies with more than 100 employees and if 15% of those employees are H1b. I am sure you didn't mean to misinform by suggesting start ups with less than 25 employees would be automatically impacted by it.

And ofcourse a separate supposed unclear provision completely unrelated to this bill or amendment will somehow make DOL more powerful than the judicial system and what better way for the DOL to use these super powers but by auditing good companies unjustly.

Oh and yes employers will hate the DOL because it has unchecked powers and hence won't file for green cards (for employees they need) because they clearly just want to spite the DOL.

Pardon my sarcasm.

Thanks Neelu. Do not let opposers of the bill scare us.

To make a simple-statement which is helping you to messy jargon which will hurt you, you need a Lawyer.