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Administrator2
05-15-2012, 03:16 PM
Immigration Voice applauds Senator John Cornyn for introducing innovation bill for addressing high-skilled green card needs of the United States. We very much appreciate Senator Cornyn's leadership for fixing the system by introducing STEM green card bill today.

Here are the key highlights of Cornyn STEM bill called - STAR bill:

* Allocating 55,000 new immigrant visas for eligible STEM graduates (Master’s and Ph.D.) of qualifying U.S. research institutions who have job offers in related fields;

* Offsetting this new allocation of visas by eliminating the so-called 'Diversity Visa' lottery program, which is no longer in America’s national interest; and

* Streamlining STEM graduate students’ ability to obtain green cards and remain in the United States by allowing 'dual-intent' for those admitted to pursue a STEM degree.


Here is the bill text:
http://www.cornyn.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=3c353d18-da6f-4be3-8d1b-5e44cbb4acc8

longwait4gc
05-15-2012, 03:28 PM
Any action items for us?

sanprabhu
05-15-2012, 04:04 PM
Immigration Voice applauds Senator John Cornyn for introducing innovation bill for addressing high-skilled green card needs of the United States. We very much appreciate Senator Cornyn's leadership for fixing the system by introducing STEM green card bill today.

Here are the key highlights of Cornyn STEM bill called - STAR bill:

* Allocating 55,000 new immigrant visas for eligible STEM graduates (Master’s and Ph.D.) of qualifying U.S. research institutions who have job offers in related fields;

* Offsetting this new allocation of visas by eliminating the so-called 'Diversity Visa' lottery program, which is no longer in America’s national interest; and

* Streamlining STEM graduate students’ ability to obtain green cards and remain in the United States by allowing 'dual-intent' for those admitted to pursue a STEM degree.


Here is the bill text:
http://www.cornyn.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=3c353d18-da6f-4be3-8d1b-5e44cbb4acc8

Atleast the Senator is honest on number of GC he is proposing to supply. Creating new GC out of thin air, probably means there is lot of conservative opposition. But taking the diversity visa means no D support.

coopheal
05-15-2012, 04:23 PM
Here is the bill text:
http://www.cornyn.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=3c353d18-da6f-4be3-8d1b-5e44cbb4acc8


Thank you Senator Cornyn for addressing High Skilled Immigration issue.

Amman
05-15-2012, 04:29 PM
Are there all or portion of HR 3012 included in this bill ?

skrish
05-15-2012, 04:51 PM
This is a bold and welll though out bill from him!!

frustratingGC
05-15-2012, 05:24 PM
what is the chance bill will pass in house and senate?

Jsad
05-15-2012, 06:04 PM
IF this bill ever gets passed and becomes a law-

Is it aonly applicable to those who file a new Perm/Labor and new I-140 approvals?(of course for those who have graduated with a MS/PHD)

or is it also applicable for those who have Labor/I-140 approved(EB2) and just waiting for the priority date to be current?

In short does it benifit peoplewho have already applied or would it help those who apply after this law has been passed.

bpratap
05-15-2012, 06:16 PM
Guess, D's are not behind Diversity Visa's as it doesn't give Visa's to any body from big interest countries/ specific Vote Bank.

Atleast the Senator is honest on number of GC he is proposing to supply. Creating new GC out of thin air, probably means there is lot of conservative opposition. But taking the diversity visa means no D support.

amulchandra
05-15-2012, 06:32 PM
I advise not to have high hopes on this. This is just a political gesture and Grassley will put a hold on this too if at all it reaches the senate floor which itself is a big IF

smuggymba
05-15-2012, 07:52 PM
Just another bill.

Mr. Obama promises to fix immigration and then tells people that he can't do it, it's the congress which has to do it. Not sure why he promises when he can't really fix it.

Sen. Cornyn favors high skilled immigration but introducing these bills prior to speaking to Grassley is a waste of time. Since Grassley's HOLD is really powerful and he is a ranking member, no one should waste time before asking Grassley.

thescadaman
05-16-2012, 07:54 AM
Thank you for your leadership Senator Cornyn!

IV Member from Texas
thescadaman

hello
05-16-2012, 08:12 AM
Thank you for your leadership Senator Cornyn!Hope to get some relief for EB category.

slowwin
05-16-2012, 08:45 AM
The truth is harsh. Unless one party controls both branches of congress, it is not going to pass.


what is the chance bill will pass in house and senate?

spven
05-16-2012, 08:50 AM
This bill will mostly benefit India & China but there should be less of an opposition from EB based ROW as added visas will benefit them too. But ROW people in foreign lands wont like it. Hopefully Senators will pass some meaningful reform that will benefit all communities. Hopefully they will have NOW attitude instead of kicking the can down the road. This year is presidential election year, next year will be first year of new administration/congress have to deal with deficit & bunch of expiring taxes, following year will be congressional election year. Circle will continue. Hopefully politicans will do something bi-partisan instead of running for office 365 days of the year. Still has hope that common sense will prevail.

immigrant2007
05-16-2012, 08:57 AM
This bill will mostly benefit India & China but there should be less of an opposition from EB based ROW as added visas will benefit them too. But ROW people in foreign lands wont like it. Hopefully Senators will pass some meaningful reform that will benefit all communities. Hopefully they will have NOW attitude instead of kicking the can down the road. This year is presidential election year, next year will be first year of new administration/congress have to deal with deficit & bunch of expiring taxes, following year will be congressional election year. Circle will continue. Hopefully politicans will do something bi-partisan instead of running for office 365 days of the year. Still has hope that common sense will prevail.

All EBs will like this (EB2, EB3 etc.) it takes away almost 1 category (or relase that many number of additional visas so this wil benefit all countries. Lets see which senator kills this bill, hold Happy Grassley or someone from democratic party?Sorry for sounding negative but this bill will not even come to floor

spven
05-16-2012, 09:07 AM
The evil for any of these bills isn't either party. Its the filibuster process where they require 60 votes instead of majority 51 in the senate. Once they do away with this stupid process, things will be lot smother. Remember dream bill failed not getting 60 votes not majority. Basically Minority holding Majority hostage. Once they do away with this stupid process, be it 3012, stem, E3, CIR, deficit reduction..etc all will pass. See interesting article from post.

Is the filibuster unconstitutional? - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/is-the-filibuster-unconstitutional/2012/05/15/gIQAYLp7QU_blog.html)

kiran_pathuri
05-16-2012, 09:49 AM
It is a well thought out bill with less scope for exploitation as it says "Allocating 55,000 new immigrant visas for eligible STEM graduates (Master’s and Ph.D.) of qualifying U.S. research institutions".
So not every STEM graduate from universities like trivalley can abuse this. Though point C in the definition of US Research Institution has some scope for exploitation. Below is the definition of Research Institute as per this bill...

‘‘(54) UNITED STATES RESEARCH INSTITUTION.—The term ‘United States research institution’ means an institution of higher education that—
‘‘(A) is described in section 101(a) of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C.
25 1001(a));
‘‘(B) received, or is part of a system of institutions of higher education that received, at least $5,000,000 in direct Federal science and engineering funding for research and development in the preceding fiscal year; or
‘‘(C) has been in existence for at least 10 years.’’.

neel_gump
05-16-2012, 11:00 AM
The truth is harsh. Unless one party controls both branches of congress, it is not going to pass.

Don't forget about "The President". Unless he signs it, it can't become a law. He has power to VETO any bill that was passed by both House and Senate!!!

neel_gump
05-16-2012, 11:15 AM
All EBs will like this (EB2, EB3 etc.) it takes away almost 1 category (or relase that many number of additional visas so this wil benefit all countries. Lets see which senator kills this bill, hold Happy Grassley or someone from democratic party?Sorry for sounding negative but this bill will not even come to floor

Isn't it crazy how one Senator can kill a legislation that was approved by ~400 Representatives and ~56 Senators..Odd...very odd!!!

thomachan72
05-16-2012, 12:08 PM
I think the most important aspect of such bills is the "Conspicous" lack of any country quotas!!! Imagine introducing a country quota into this "Start bill" wouldn't it appear rather ridiculous and self destructive. How is immigration based on employment any different then?? :(:(
Hope the introduction of such bills highlight the importance of removing the country quota from the current EB immigration system.

slowwin
05-16-2012, 12:46 PM
This bill will pass only if it has 60 votes in senate (66 for veto proof) and 221 votes in House of Representatives (288 for veto proof).
Either 1 party controls all three baranches of government, House, senate and presidency or one party has veto proof majorities in House and senate.

Short of that, compromise is needed to pass any bill let alone immigration related Bill.

It is very easy to hold up any bill in senate. 1 senator can fillibuster the bill. But it is very difficult to pass any Immigration related Bill, in this environment.

gc_on_demand
05-16-2012, 01:14 PM
Given partisan environment , I think it is hard to move such a bill. In my gc journey I have seen many dems , reps , and even prez has drafted what they want. Never made out from hearing.

only two bill related to high skill has made progress. one was recapture in late 2008 which died in judiciary committee and other one is HR 3012 which passed house and one rep holding that bill.

Due to IVs lots of effort , we were able to pass in house. Lets work hard to pass from senate. rest is just political talk.

thomachan72
05-16-2012, 01:28 PM
Given partisan environment , I think it is hard to move such a bill. In my gc journey I have seen many dems , reps , and even prez has drafted what they want. Never made out from hearing.

only two bill related to high skill has made progress. one was recapture in late 2008 which died in judiciary committee and other one is HR 3012 which passed house and one rep holding that bill.

Due to IVs lots of effort , we were able to pass in house. Lets work hard to pass from senate. rest is just political talk.
HR3012 should pass. All of these bills including various versions of the STEM clearly do not have a country quota attached to it. There is absolutely no justification in asking a Ind/Chin STEM PhD to wait while others pass through. It simply doesn't matter where you are from. If you are ahead in the que you should be permitted in first. If you look at the number of students it is owerwhelmingly Ind/Chin for sure so going by quota shouldn't it have occured to the bill makers that there should be a quota for this too??:D

ronhira
05-16-2012, 10:10 PM
as always indian press screws up again...... sometimes it seems that indian press does it on purpose, otherwise how is it possible to screw up every time?

US senator seeks 55,000 more 'H-1B visas' - The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/careers/job-trends/US-senator-seeks-55000-more-H-1B-visas/articleshow/13162624.cms)

its not 55K h1b visas dummy, its 55K green cards..... when will toi reporters get any real reporting sense?

sunny1000
05-17-2012, 12:56 AM
This bill will pass only if it has 60 votes in senate (66 for veto proof) and 221 votes in House of Representatives (288 for veto proof).
Either 1 party controls all three baranches of government, House, senate and presidency or one party has veto proof majorities in House and senate.

Short of that, compromise is needed to pass any bill let alone immigration related Bill.

It is very easy to hold up any bill in senate. 1 senator can fillibuster the bill. But it is very difficult to pass any Immigration related Bill, in this environment.

That did not happen in 2009 when Dems had the majority in the house, 60 votes in the Senate and the White House. Dems had control from 2006 to 2008 when W was the the President and he was willing to make compromises. But, the Hispanic Caucus said "my way or the highway". This is a "do nothing" congress no matter which party is in control as niether one of them want to compromise.

gk_2000
05-17-2012, 08:26 AM
as always indian press screws up again...... sometimes it seems that indian press does it on purpose, otherwise how is it possible to screw up every time?

US senator seeks 55,000 more 'H-1B visas' - The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/careers/job-trends/US-senator-seeks-55000-more-H-1B-visas/articleshow/13162624.cms)

its not 55K h1b visas dummy, its 55K green cards..... when will toi reporters get any real reporting sense?

HA HA HA this is killing me, laughing my arse off!!

immgrat
05-17-2012, 09:01 AM
If the bill become law on or after October 2012, or even April 2013, does it affect the DV-2013 winners?

immgrat
05-17-2012, 09:05 AM
In fact that, what is the point of view by Democratic Party and Obama regarding Diversity Visa?

Does it mean Democratic Party support Diversity Visa, so that they should not vote yes if Republican create any bills regarding eliminate Diversity Visa?

If it is no, what is the objective of Democratic Party?

immgrat
05-17-2012, 09:08 AM
Does it have any approach stop DV-2013 visa even DV-2013 winners have been selected?

Does it possible to cut budget in Appropriation bills, or Budget for Fiscal Year 2013?

immigrant2007
05-17-2012, 09:52 AM
That did not happen in 2009 when Dems had the majority in the house, 60 votes in the Senate and the White House. Dems had control from 2006 to 2008 when W was the the President and he was willing to make compromises. But, the Hispanic Caucus said "my way or the highway". This is a "do nothing" congress no matter which party is in control as niether one of them want to compromise.

DEMS are only interested in mass votes (CIR) nothing else interests them as a team

DallasBlue
05-22-2012, 09:17 AM
Please call the senator Cornyn's office and say "am calling in to thank Senator for introducing the STAR bill and request Senator Cornyn to support S.1857/H.R.3012 and PASS it in senate, this bill was a provision in his erst while introduced SKIL Bill. passing this would help many who have been waiting in queue for decades to move on to pursue the American dream of running their own enterprises , research labs and gives them job mobility etc ultimately to improve the US economy"

District Office
Washington DC
517 Hart Senate Office Bldg.
Washington, DC 20510
Tel: 202-224-2934

go_guy123
05-22-2012, 03:38 PM
Does it have any approach stop DV-2013 visa even DV-2013 winners have been selected?

Does it possible to cut budget in Appropriation bills, or Budget for Fiscal Year 2013?

Diversity Visa is another vote bank for Democratic party. This bill is going nowhere.
Diversity Visa followed by the family based chain immigration are a big potential voters
for Democratic party.
HR 3012 is the easiest to pass technically (least resistance) and even that one failed. Pretty much one senator can veto the bill. It needs filibuster proof majority.

But I personally believe it was Democractic party that was dragging foot.....and not that keen or interested in it. How can they leave the hostages (ie skilled immigrants) without getting the dream act passed.

dhakaldoo
05-23-2012, 03:19 PM
Even though none of these bills have a chance of passing and becoming a law in this environment, its just feels good to see that the legal immigration issues are getting some attention.
We just have to keep trying with small steps like HR 3012. It is obvious for someone to wonder that if such a simple technical fix faces so many hurdles how will these big comprehensive bills pass. But the answer is Politics, which common people like us dont understand.
But we have to keep trying. The vote bank politics will still be there but, through bills such as HR 3012 the people in Washington are now at-least aware of the flaws in the system. I hope that they will pass the bill soon.
Keep faith friends. Keep supporting IV. Volunteer to meet the senators. I am sure it will help! :)

dhakaldoo
05-23-2012, 03:21 PM
Even though none of these bills have a chance of passing and becoming a law in this environment, its just feels good to see that the legal immigration issues are getting some attention.
We just have to keep trying with small steps like HR 3012. It is obvious for someone to wonder that if such a simple technical fix faces so many hurdles how will these big comprehensive bills pass. But the answer is Politics, which common people like us dont understand.
But we have to keep trying. The vote bank politics will still be there but, through bills such as HR 3012 the people in Washington are now at-least aware of the flaws in the system. I hope that they will pass the bill soon.
Keep faith friends. Keep supporting IV. Volunteer to meet the senators. I am sure it will help! :)

dhakaldoo
05-23-2012, 03:41 PM
Sorry about the double post! seems like a system glitch!