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pappu
11-29-2011, 06:14 PM
the House vote coming up at 6:30pm

Representative Chaffetz in his speech regarding HR 3012 mentioned Compete America (immigration voice is also part of Compete America coalition) and Immigration Voice in his speech. Link to the video - House Session, Part 2 - C-SPAN Video Library (http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/HouseSessionPart286)

The bill passed with overwhelming bipartisan support in the House - 389 :) and 15 :eek:

This was just the first step (or the 2nd, 3rd.... many steps have been taken for us to be in the position that we are in today), we still have a long way to go. With your support and help we can do it.

1. Support by funding (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/misc.php?do=donate)our efforts; spread the word (current action item)
2. Participate in all our action items; spread the word
3. Want to be more involved - provide your contact info (iv username, name, ph#, city and state of residence) to district@immigrationvoice.org

Suva
11-29-2011, 06:16 PM
Waiting and praying for this.

lost_in_migration
11-29-2011, 06:22 PM
Also on Live Video - C-SPAN | C-SPAN (http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/).

Vote starts right now

digital2k
11-29-2011, 06:24 PM
Hold your breath
Be part of the historic moment

the House vote coming up at 6:30pm

Represntative Chaffetz will give a speech regarding HR 3012 and he will mention Compete America (immigration voice is also part of compete america coalition) and Immigration Voice in his speech. link to the video - House Session, Part 2 - C-SPAN Video Library (http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/HouseSessionPart286)

gotgc?
11-29-2011, 06:25 PM
House Proceedings (http://houselive.gov/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=23&event_id=2)

lost_in_migration
11-29-2011, 06:26 PM
Latest counter Ayes - 26 Nays - 2

immigrationmatters30
11-29-2011, 06:27 PM
31 yes
2 no
401 - still voting

santiwar
11-29-2011, 06:27 PM
Two Nays but rest mostly Yeas....fingers crossed

StarSun
11-29-2011, 06:29 PM
To see live vote counts (http://houselive.gov/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=23&event_id=2)

isantem
11-29-2011, 06:29 PM
did they amended anything?

smuggymba
11-29-2011, 06:32 PM
68 yae

4 Nay

362 left

time left: 6:05

bpratap
11-29-2011, 06:33 PM
Do all of the remaining 350+ necessarily need to vote

lost_in_migration
11-29-2011, 06:35 PM
Ayes - 113 Nays - 5.
Needed 2/3 of 434 = 290

Latest counter Ayes - 26 Nays - 2

StarSun
11-29-2011, 06:35 PM
123 :)
5 :confused:

GC_IS_PITA
11-29-2011, 06:37 PM
how many votes before we can declare victory?

lost_in_migration
11-29-2011, 06:38 PM
Ayes - 190 Nays - 6.
Needed 2/3 of 434 = 290

SAP
11-29-2011, 06:38 PM
the count is

yes 184
nah 6

GC_IS_PITA
11-29-2011, 06:39 PM
what happens when time expires?

GC_IS_PITA
11-29-2011, 06:41 PM
Congratulations everyone.

Here is to a faster movement on the PD dates for everyone!

Congrats everyone and THANKS IV!

SAP
11-29-2011, 06:41 PM
yes 290...now...

lost_in_migration
11-29-2011, 06:41 PM
We have won this round - Cheers !!

Ayes - 290 Nays - 8. Not yet Voted - 136
Needed 2/3 of 434 = 290

dhakaldoo
11-29-2011, 06:41 PM
yay!!

smuggymba
11-29-2011, 06:41 PM
315

we win

bpratap
11-29-2011, 06:42 PM
Awesome !

304 :)
9 :mad:

looivy
11-29-2011, 06:42 PM
how many votes before we can declare victory?

289

digital2k
11-29-2011, 06:42 PM
Pls Contribute
passed now

SAP
11-29-2011, 06:43 PM
congrats to you all folks ....one more battle...one level closer...

spulapa
11-29-2011, 06:43 PM
344 yea 12 nay 78 NV

misanthrope
11-29-2011, 06:43 PM
This is freakin' epic. Were there any amendments made or is it just a default status text on the screen?

snathan
11-29-2011, 06:45 PM
Congrats....guys

pappu
11-29-2011, 06:45 PM
This is a huge step for us and historic. We are trying to remove discrmination that exists in employment based immigration based on country of birth. This bill will make the system fair for everyone in the process.

forever_waiting
11-29-2011, 06:46 PM
Kudos to OUR IV!!Amazing to hear Rep.Chaffetz specifically mention IV in his speech! Kudos to IV core--who inspite of all the naysayers within our own community, stuck to their gut and led us to this important victory! HR3012 will be law soon thanks to IV and all its members here.

lost_in_migration
11-29-2011, 06:46 PM
Ayes - 389 Nays - 15
Needed 2/3 of 434 = 290

Its good they had a count. Now we actually know how many and who supported HR3012

h1techSlave
11-29-2011, 06:46 PM
this is a huge step. Thanks a ton, IV.

new_horizon
11-29-2011, 06:47 PM
AWESOME!! Thanks Anu for the live link. Now it's on to the Senate. Go IV!!

Rb_newsletter
11-29-2011, 06:47 PM
315

we win

Not only 'we' won. He, she, they, everyone in immigration queue and everyone out of immigration queue won.

mantagon
11-29-2011, 06:56 PM
Thanks to all the core members and volunteers who have worked and are working selflessly towards a fair system on behalf of thousands of legal immigrants.

Also, thanks to the donors and those who contributed, however small the amount may be...it just shows that they DO sincerely appreciate IV's hard work.

Cheers to all.

Go IV!!

CaliHoneB
11-29-2011, 08:17 PM
Congratulations! One down one to go..

sunny1000
11-29-2011, 08:18 PM
We have won this round - Cheers !!

Ayes - 290 Nays - 8. Not yet Voted - 136
Needed 2/3 of 434 = 290

why do you need 2/3rds? Only need a simple majority to pass a bill in the house. A 2/3rd vote count is needed only when overriding a Presidential veto.

nosightofgc
11-29-2011, 08:19 PM
Thank you to the IV team and this is a great success for all of us. Yes there is more to do and we all need to come forward to help IV to help us. Waiting for more action items on how this bill can be pushed forward for Senate.

I watched the voting on the CSPAN. The way that they mentioned on the screen is not good. It said "visas for high skilled workers". An average American who sees that might feel that the bill is to bring more skilled foreign workers on visas. Just a thought and sharing my observation.

I will submit my 4th round of contribution shortly.

GMKrishna
11-29-2011, 08:19 PM
Results of hard work. Take a moment to recognize IV core and all of us. Sweet.

sunny1000
11-29-2011, 08:20 PM
Congrats to IV! I have been here since inception and this is a BIG milestone for almost 6 years of hard work by Aman and the core group.

newdif
11-29-2011, 08:20 PM
Amazing news, GO IV!!!! Let's continue our efforts and contributions to push it through in the Senate. :D

YesGC_NoGC
11-29-2011, 08:21 PM
Let's hope this becomes law before new year!
What are the next steps from here.. Oh well forget it just enjoy the moment for now:-)

StarSun
11-29-2011, 08:23 PM
Please follow IV closely for in the near future and work on action items. Many of you have helped out in the past month and weeks - and a big thanks to all of you.

We still have ways to go before this bill becomes the law. Stay tuned to IV and follow up on every action item.

If you would like to be involved in this process, contact district@immigrationvoice.org with these info:

IV username
Name
Ph#
City and State of residence

swarnapuri
11-29-2011, 08:27 PM
who were part of this small win! Hopefully it passes the Senate and reaches the president desk before the end of this year!

Waiting for the next action items.

Murthy
11-29-2011, 08:27 PM
This is a huge step for us and historic. We are trying to remove discrmination that exists in employment based immigration based on country of birth. This bill will make the system fair for everyone in the process.

I am seeing the following at Office of the Clerk of the U.S. House of Representatives (http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx)
6:31:02 P.M. H.R. 3012 Considered as unfinished business. H.R. 3012
6:54:26 P.M. H.R. 3012 On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 389 - 15 (Roll no. 860).
6:54:27 P.M. H.R. 3012 Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
What does this mean technically.
Can some one explains these terms.
I understood that 389 Yes and 15 No and 29 no vote neutral so bill passed in House.
What is Next Now
Regards

sbindval
11-29-2011, 08:30 PM
Congratulation IV.
Hopefully this might bring people waiting on the sidelines to contribute to IV. This is a true testament to IV's inspiring effort to bring about change in broken immigration system.

khendai
11-29-2011, 08:33 PM
Visa is the official name for greencard aswell. If you look in their monthly bulletins, they refer to it as visa numbers available.. I guess that is nothing to worry about.

Thank you to the IV team and this is a great success for all of us. Yes there is more to do and we all need to come forward to help IV to help us. Waiting for more action items on how this bill can be pushed forward for Senate.

I watched the voting on the CSPAN. The way that they mentioned on the screen is not good. It said "visas for high skilled workers". An average American who sees that might feel that the bill is to bring more skilled foreign workers on visas. Just a thought and sharing my observation.

I will submit my 4th round of contribution shortly.

sundeepreddym
11-29-2011, 08:34 PM
Congratulations to IV core team & all contirbutors. Its a great win for the skilled immigrants trying to get permanent resident status. All eyes on Senate now.

IV core team - Do we have any insigths on Democrat Senator's are on the fence. We can focus our efforts on those votes.

san1007
11-29-2011, 08:38 PM
This is a great victory for EB community. Thanks IV core for your hard work and everyone contributed for this great effort.

lost_in_migration
11-29-2011, 08:38 PM
Suspension of the rules is a procedure generally used to quickly pass non-controversial bills in the United States House of Representatives.
A motion to suspend the rules is in order on Mondays and Tuesdays and towards the end of a session of Congress and may only be made by the Speaker of the House or their designee, though it is customary for committee chairs to write the Speaker requesting a suspension. Once a member makes a motion to "suspend the rules" and take some action, debate is limited to 40 minutes, no amendments can be offered to the motion or the underlying matter, and a 2/3 majority of Members present and voting is required to agree to the motion.
A suspension motion sets aside all procedural and other rules that would otherwise prohibit the House from consideration of the measure, but the specific rules that are to be suspended are never mentioned in the motion. Typically, a suspension motion is phrased as a motion to "suspend the rules and pass the bill," and, if the Motion is agreed to, the bill is considered as passed by the House. A Member can also move to suspend the rules and take another action, such as to "suspend the rules and consider the bill," and the House shall take the proposed action if two-thirds of those voting are in favor of the motion.
Most often, bills "on suspension" are non-controversial legislation -- such as naming Post Offices of the United States Postal Service or federal buildings -- and nearly all bills that are considered under suspension rules have bipartisan support. Both major political parties in the United States -- the Democratic Party and Republican Party -- have internal rules that prohibit proposing or supporting a bill under suspension unless it costs less than $100 million.

Ref: Suspension of the rules in the United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_the_rules_in_the_United_States_Congr ess)

why do you need 2/3rds? Only need a simple majority to pass a bill in the house. A 2/3rd vote count is needed only when overriding a Presidential veto.

rdoib
11-29-2011, 08:39 PM
Hard work pays off and inspire to do more..anyone who is still on fence please don't be ..join and contribute ..if you are not going to help hourself who will?

kc_p21
11-29-2011, 08:41 PM
this bill gets passed and I get my GC.

forever_waiting
11-29-2011, 08:55 PM
I have never seen ANY immigration bill passed in House with this much majority. That shows the strategic brilliance involved behind this bill. And it is very clear how much effort IV core put in behind the conception and advocacy for this bill. It is a big deal for IV to be specifically mentioned by Rep.Chaffetz, in his speech, as one of the orgs who supported and worked for this bill! Kudos to IV again...this is one super achievement! And getting such a bill passed does not mean working with just a few lawmakers..it means working consistently with all offices on Capitol Hill. Thanks to IV and hope more member are now encouraged to participate in grass-roots efforts (similar to the phone campaign).

sunny1000
11-29-2011, 09:17 PM
Suspension of the rules is a procedure generally used to quickly pass non-controversial bills in the United States House of Representatives.
A motion to suspend the rules is in order on Mondays and Tuesdays and towards the end of a session of Congress and may only be made by the Speaker of the House or their designee, though it is customary for committee chairs to write the Speaker requesting a suspension. Once a member makes a motion to "suspend the rules" and take some action, debate is limited to 40 minutes, no amendments can be offered to the motion or the underlying matter, and a 2/3 majority of Members present and voting is required to agree to the motion.
A suspension motion sets aside all procedural and other rules that would otherwise prohibit the House from consideration of the measure, but the specific rules that are to be suspended are never mentioned in the motion. Typically, a suspension motion is phrased as a motion to "suspend the rules and pass the bill," and, if the Motion is agreed to, the bill is considered as passed by the House. A Member can also move to suspend the rules and take another action, such as to "suspend the rules and consider the bill," and the House shall take the proposed action if two-thirds of those voting are in favor of the motion.
Most often, bills "on suspension" are non-controversial legislation -- such as naming Post Offices of the United States Postal Service or federal buildings -- and nearly all bills that are considered under suspension rules have bipartisan support. Both major political parties in the United States -- the Democratic Party and Republican Party -- have internal rules that prohibit proposing or supporting a bill under suspension unless it costs less than $100 million.

Ref: Suspension of the rules in the United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_the_rules_in_the_United_States_Congr ess)

Got it, thanks.

eastwest
11-29-2011, 09:49 PM
IV will be remembered in the history of immigration, we are living in this historic moment.

Proud to be member of IV. Thanks to each and every IVian. Thanks to core team and districts as well.

Thanks
EastWest

GCBy3000
11-29-2011, 10:37 PM
Is there any special access required to access the donor forum link other than being a donor? I am unable to access the content and wondering about it.

manchala
11-29-2011, 10:40 PM
why do you need 2/3rds? Only need a simple majority to pass a bill in the house. A 2/3rd vote count is needed only when overriding a Presidential veto.

Suspension mode needs 2/3 majority

manchala
11-29-2011, 10:51 PM
Please contribute for the cause. We have more work ahead.

swamy
11-29-2011, 11:32 PM
BIG congrats to IV leadership!why is there a transition period before throwing out the current awful & discriminatory country quotas?even the word 'quota' makes one cringe-such a medieval pre-civil rights era term!why cant we just jump straight to whats acknowledged to be the eventual fair system - why wait until 2015?just to appease some nutcases who dont undserstand discrimination in employment is not only outdated but illegal??

chikna
11-29-2011, 11:40 PM
I think this is the biggest achievement so far immigration is concerned from IV core team. I am convinced that with the help of folks like many of us can do wonders. I personally can't visit DC but with our contribution and support IV can do lot better for immigrants. Hats off for a good job again.

I don't think this year this bill help me since my PD is December 2005. Who cares? I have been waiting 14 years just another 2 years not a big deal.

Suva
11-30-2011, 12:03 AM
Thanks IV for all your efforts.

Contributed $25 for 6 months

My IV ID: SUVA
PayPal Transaction ID # 4Y087208W0337253A
Subscription Number: S-4E1938021D293804N

Thanks

sguntaka
11-30-2011, 12:33 AM
Contributed another $100 (Your receipt number for this payment is: 4395-1815-3901-9060) for all the great work by IV & team.

I pledge to contribute more.

Suva
11-30-2011, 12:38 AM
I have also asked my 10 colleagues and friends to contribute.

Thanks IV for all your efforts.

Contributed $25 for 6 months

My IV ID: SUVA
PayPal Transaction ID # 4Y087208W0337253A
Subscription Number: S-4E1938021D293804N

Thanks

Suva
11-30-2011, 12:48 AM
"Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., who heads the Senate Judiciary panel on immigration, said he planned to move the bill as quickly as possible in the Senate "

Here is the link...House votes to end country limits for worker visas - Boston.com (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/11/29/house_votes_to_end_country_limits_for_worker_visas/)

IndiaEB32003
11-30-2011, 12:54 AM
It is a great news and at the same time I am sure many are wondering about chances in Senate. I just read this article...

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., who heads the Senate Judiciary panel on immigration, said he planned to move the bill as quickly as possible in the Senate, "where we expect it to find overwhelming support." He said the legislation would "remove outdated constraints that prevent us from attracting the kind of innovators who can create job growth in America."

House votes to end country limits for worker visas - Boston.com (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/11/29/house_votes_to_end_country_limits_for_worker_visas/)


Please contribute for this great cuase.

sage2006
11-30-2011, 01:31 AM
After having witnessed first hand the success of IV's efforts, this is the time to GET INVOLVED. Please contribute towards IV efforts and follow the instructions below to participate and stay informed.
Its ok if you were a silent bystander so far ... but this is it. This bill is the only chance we will have in many years and the passage of this bill through senate will mean waiting for a few months or just 1-2 years instead of decades for a green card.
Please get involved.

Please follow IV closely for in the near future and work on action items. Many of you have helped out in the past month and weeks - and a big thanks to all of you.

We still have ways to go before this bill becomes the law. Stay tuned to IV and follow up on every action item.

If you would like to be involved in this process, contact district@immigrationvoice.org with these info:

IV username
Name
Ph#
City and State of residence

sanjay
11-30-2011, 10:07 AM
Congratulations to Aman and IV team for all their efforts. Now lets work towards Senator approvals and hope it becomes law by end of this year.

santiwar
11-30-2011, 10:33 AM
Pardon the rather cheesy title to this post. Was thinking about a bill being debated a few weeks back in the house about reinstating the "In God We Trust" vow. I almost gave up on anything happening on HR 3012 when i saw those debates, just showed how serious the house was about "Real" issues. I think that bill is the only one that passed as unanimously as HR 3012 in the recent past. Just shows how tough it would've been to coalesce all the house members behind this bill. Kudos to the IV team and everyone who kept the Faith.

When all of this is done and we are all Green( we are all allowed to dream :p), i would love to read a book about what went down to make this happen. Would make a great read.

Contributing another 100 bucks now.

santiwar
11-30-2011, 10:44 AM
another 100 dollars

txn id: 0276-1206-1343-7691

aspiration
11-30-2011, 12:44 PM
Just had my little contribution of $100.00.

khendai
11-30-2011, 12:57 PM
Thats a good idea for Pappu and folks to publish a book on what happened behind this bill. I'm sure lot of immigrants and other interest groups would like to read it. IV can benefit monetarily aswell. Moreover this is the ongoing trend with politicians, sports people and smart journalists.

Pardon the rather cheesy title to this post. Was thinking about a bill being debated a few weeks back in the house about reinstating the "In God We Trust" vow. I almost gave up on anything happening on HR 3012 when i saw those debates, just showed how serious the house was about "Real" issues. I think that bill is the only one that passed as unanimously as HR 3012 in the recent past. Just shows how tough it would've been to coalesce all the house members behind this bill. Kudos to the IV team and everyone who kept the Faith.

When all of this is done and we are all Green( we are all allowed to dream :p), i would love to read a book about what went down to make this happen. Would make a great read.

Contributing another 100 bucks now.

Pappu_Pager
11-30-2011, 02:54 PM
the House vote coming up at 6:30pm

Representative Chaffetz in his speech regarding HR 3012 mentioned Compete America (immigration voice is also part of Compete America coalition) and Immigration Voice in his speech. Link to the video - House Session, Part 2 - C-SPAN Video Library (http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/HouseSessionPart286)

The bill passed with overwhelming bipartisan support in the House - 389 :) and 15 :eek:

This was just the first step (or the 2nd, 3rd.... many steps have been taken for us to be in the position that we are in today), we still have a long way to go. With your support and help we can do it.

1. Support by funding (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/misc.php?do=donate)our efforts; spread the word (current action item)
2. Participate in all our action items; spread the word
3. Want to be more involved - provide your contact info (iv username, name, ph#, city and state of residence) to district@immigrationvoice.org

congrats ! This is the great leap ... Good work. the dedication and the time committment is greatly appreciated .. .

manchala
11-30-2011, 05:47 PM
congrats ! This is the great leap ... Good work. the dedication and the time committment is greatly appreciated .. .

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