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realizeit
11-21-2008, 12:08 PM
Dear Friends,

As per yesterdayís floor summary (access link below), the House of Congress has been adjourned and this marks the end of the business activity in the house of the110th Congress. House will re-convene at 11:00 a.m. on January 3, 2009 and that will be the first session of the 111th Congress.

Floor Summary: http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.html

3:02 P.M. -
The House adjourned pursuant to H. Con. Res. 440. The next meeting is scheduled for 11:00 a.m. on January 3, 2009.



HR 5882 introduced in the 110th Congress will no longer valid for consideration in the 111th Congress and a new RECAPTURE bill has to be introduced in 111th Congress with the same contents of HR 5882 in order for us to obtain some relief.

I think we should start our campaign now itself, targeting Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] and Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5], for the RE-INTRODUCTION of the RECAPTURE bill during the first week of the 111th Congress.

Also, it is very important NOT to campaign for the expansion of the scope of this bill at this point of time as that will make this bill to get ignored and become a reason to add the whole relief measures to a Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill which may take 1-2 years to get passed depending on the political landscape.

We should ask Hon. Zoe and Hon. Sensenbrenner to introduce this as an emergency relief measure and try to get this passed during the first quarter itself.

Once this bill gets introduced, we could request all previous Co-Sponsors of HR 5882 to become Co-Sponsors of the new bill.

So at this point, we should send mails to Rep Lofgren, Zoe and Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. encouraging them to re-introduce the RECAPTURE bill.

Letís keep HOPE alive!

gc_on_demand
11-21-2008, 12:29 PM
Dear Friends,

As per yesterdayís floor summary (access link below), the House of Congress has been adjourned and this marks the end of the business activity in the house of the110th Congress. House will re-convene at 11:00 a.m. on January 3, 2009 and that will be the first session of the 111th Congress.

Floor Summary: http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.html

3:02 P.M. -
The House adjourned pursuant to H. Con. Res. 440. The next meeting is scheduled for 11:00 a.m. on January 3, 2009.



HR 5882 introduced in the 110th Congress will no longer valid for consideration in the 111th Congress and a new RECAPTURE bill has to be introduced in 111th Congress with the same contents of HR 5882 in order for us to obtain some relief.

I think we should start our campaign now itself, targeting Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] and Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5], for the RE-INTRODUCTION of the RECAPTURE bill during the first week of the 111th Congress.

Also, it is very important NOT to campaign for the expansion of the scope of this bill at this point of time as that will make this bill to get ignored and become a reason to add the whole relief measures to a Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill which may take 1-2 years to get passed depending on the political landscape.

We should ask Hon. Zoe and Hon. Sensenbrenner to introduce this as an emergency relief measure and try to get this passed during the first quarter itself.

Once this bill gets introduced, we could request all previous Co-Sponsors of HR 5882 to become Co-Sponsors of the new bill.

So at this point, we should send mails to Rep Lofgren, Zoe and Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. encouraging them to re-introduce the RECAPTURE bill.

Letís keep HOPE alive!

I was pushing it for week. I tried to email her. It didnot work out.. On her website if you are not from her constitute it will not allow to send message. I called her office to and lady asked me details first like name , address and she said I should call my local rep. Also she didnot give any details on HR 5882. I was asking support from some member from her consitute and get the thing going ..no one showed interest. People are busy on AC21 thing. I think its good for them but doesnot matter for me who didont even file I 485.

We are in such a minority in terms of immigrants. 12 mil Illegal Vs 500k legal ( who are waiting for visa ) Out of that who knows how many we are on this site ? may be 10 % or less.. and people starts campaign for AC21 which brings number even smaller. How can we get success... We should think broad. The whole point of this was forum should be for every one. I know we had done a progress. (1) We did good job on July fiasco. only helped those who were waiting for filling 485.. ( may be 90 % of population of this site . )
(2) then we did good job for 2 year of EAD
(3) Now AC21..

but this is helping only few % of us. and becoming less and less as some senior members get GC and leave site.. In order to attrack more and more people we should be broad. Our primary goal should be Backlog and increase visa .. Unless congress increase visa nothing will happen to backlog.

Good start and let me know if you need some help on this campaign.

bobzibub
11-21-2008, 01:07 PM
http://www.change.gov/agenda/immigration_agenda/

gc_on_demand
11-21-2008, 01:12 PM
http://www.change.gov/agenda/immigration_agenda/

bobzibub

You can post there and if you live in California 16th Dist you can call Zoe' office and find out she is willing to bring HR 5882 to floor in Jan 2009.

Any body is here from California 16th Dist ? Please PM me...

walking_dude
11-21-2008, 01:14 PM
I don't know how many of you have actually visited DC offices and spoken to Congressional Office staff in person (not just sending E-mails or letters). I have been there, and done that. And I intend to continue to do that for myself, my family and the community..

Let me tell you this, if there is anything related to immigration - whether Visa recapture or increase in numbers - it will be with CIR. There was a slim chance for piecemeal legislation in the 110th Congress. There is almost none in the current Democrat-dominated Congress. This is the political reality we have to live with.

The question I was asked by the Congressional staff repeatedly was - 'If so many thousands are impacted, why are we seeing just 4-5 coming to DC asking for help? Why aren't we hearing about from our constituents? Why is it always 'the outsiders' approaching us? Why aren't they visiting us? Why aren't they writing letters to us?'. So many questions with no answers!

Fact of the matter is our community cannot get what it wants unless we willing to pull our butts off the couch and do the dirty groundwork. Just the 50 or so of us dedicated IV leaders cannot work miracles.

We don't have any magic spells or potions in our pockets. We need your help to succeed.

singhsa3
11-21-2008, 01:26 PM
Interestingly, on our last visit to DC two congressional offices asked the very same question. They were actually surprised to hear that there is a problem.
The baby that cries the most gets the milk first...

The question I was asked my the Congressional staff repeatedly was - 'If so many thousands are impacted, why are we seeing just 4-5 coming to DC asking for help?

vik352
11-21-2008, 02:52 PM
Let's start the call campaign. I want to be the baby that cries (or rather calls) a lot :-)

kumarc123
11-21-2008, 03:26 PM
Dear Friends,

As per yesterday’s floor summary (access link below), the House of Congress has been adjourned and this marks the end of the business activity in the house of the110th Congress. House will re-convene at 11:00 a.m. on January 3, 2009 and that will be the first session of the 111th Congress.

Floor Summary: http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.html

3:02 P.M. -
The House adjourned pursuant to H. Con. Res. 440. The next meeting is scheduled for 11:00 a.m. on January 3, 2009.


HR 5882 introduced in the 110th Congress will no longer valid for consideration in the 111th Congress and a new RECAPTURE bill has to be introduced in 111th Congress with the same contents of HR 5882 in order for us to obtain some relief.

I think we should start our campaign now itself, targeting Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] and Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5], for the RE-INTRODUCTION of the RECAPTURE bill during the first week of the 111th Congress.

Also, it is very important NOT to campaign for the expansion of the scope of this bill at this point of time as that will make this bill to get ignored and become a reason to add the whole relief measures to a Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill which may take 1-2 years to get passed depending on the political landscape.

We should ask Hon. Zoe and Hon. Sensenbrenner to introduce this as an emergency relief measure and try to get this passed during the first quarter itself.

Once this bill gets introduced, we could request all previous Co-Sponsors of HR 5882 to become Co-Sponsors of the new bill.

So at this point, we should send mails to Rep Lofgren, Zoe and Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. encouraging them to re-introduce the RECAPTURE bill.

Let’s keep HOPE alive!

Dude nothing will happen, this was lost and last battle.


The problem is us, yes "us". Most of us come to check whats on the website and then make sure we stay abreast with it. No one wants to work etc mile except making stupid phone calls and sending faxes.


NOTHING WILL HAPPEN Because we are DESIS


All the people who got EAD's act as if " I don't care now, I got EAD " I have spoken to few Indians and this has been their response.All these suckers are good for what? You all got EAD, congrats you sit on your bud and wait for years. We all have seen how the bulletin is working.

Illegals are better than us at least they are united and they are actively involved.

We need the IV core team and the administrator to guide some big rally's. Guys nothing will happen until we are bold about our intentions.
I noticed everyone comes up with their different ideas, but no one works to implement it. We need to stand together and do something big, when was the last time we had a big rally?

And how many people actually showed up? Desi's wants everything fast and free.
One of the reasons friends of mine from IV have left being disappointed.

Yes 2007 was a milestone for a few people, but a disaster for people like us, who had PD in 07, had July fiasco not happened we could have seen some positive movement, rather being put on a swing ------------------ go front----------------------- go back.


So all the junior and new members until you guys quantitatively plan something big and real, nothing will happen. We all have our own problems, life in America is not simple, but in order for us to accomplish something we all need to unite and do something big, the problem is lately IV thinks too much and has less of ACTION

Kushal
11-21-2008, 03:48 PM
That's very true. Shame on us for being lazy and waiting for the right moment.
The 16th district teams needs to be more re-united. I will talk to digital2k and arrange to meet Zoe in few days.


I don't know how many of you have actually visited DC offices and spoken to Congressional Office staff in person (not just sending E-mails or letters). I have been there, and done that. And I intend to continue to do that for myself, my family and the community..

Let me tell you this, if there is anything related to immigration - whether Visa recapture or increase in numbers - it will be with CIR. There was a slim chance for piecemeal legislation in the 110th Congress. There is almost none in the current Democrat-dominated Congress. This is the political reality we have to live with.

The question I was asked by the Congressional staff repeatedly was - 'If so many thousands are impacted, why are we seeing just 4-5 coming to DC asking for help? Why aren't we hearing about from our constituents? Why is it always 'the outsiders' approaching us? Why aren't they visiting us? Why aren't they writing letters to us?'. So many questions with no answers!

Fact of the matter is our community cannot get what it wants unless we willing to pull our butts off the couch and do the dirty groundwork. Just the 50 or so of us dedicated IV leaders cannot work miracles.

We don't have any magic spells or potions in our pockets. We need your help to succeed.

gcdreamer05
11-21-2008, 04:03 PM
That's very true. Shame on us for being lazy and waiting for the right moment.
The 16th district teams needs to be more re-united. I will talk to digital2k and arrange to meet Zoe in few days.

Good job on bringing this back to fire.

But one sad thing that Steve king of Iowa got reelected and he is ready to filibuster.

walking_dude
11-21-2008, 04:15 PM
You have some very valid points about community (non)participation in your post.

I understand your point about having another rally. Make no mistake - IV core has no problems with planning and conducting another rally. So it's not a big issue to get them to agree. I can push IV core, and get another rally. Bigger issue is how many are going to turn up? If it's just 100-200 of us same-old folks, there is no point.

Last year when we were bouyed by the success of July VB reversal, it was estimated that at least 10,000 would turn up. But, only 2000 did. I don't know how many will, if we hold another few months from now?

IV can sponsor more ACTION (items). But what's point, if there is not enough participation? First step is the community needs to step up and make existing action items such as FOIA requests for backlog numbers, AC21 action items successful. This will motivate IV to launch more action items. No organization would want to be seen running too many campaigns with liitle or no community participation.


We need the IV core team and the administrator to guide some big rally's. Guys nothing will happen until we are bold about our intentions.
I noticed everyone comes up with their different ideas, but no one works to implement it. We need to stand together and do something big, when was the last time we had a big rally?

And how many people actually showed up? Desi's wants everything fast and free, the problem is lately IV thinks too much and has less of ACTION

walking_dude
11-21-2008, 04:29 PM
Our community needs to get this - We [through non-participation] are the problem, not others.

If folks had turned up in DC rally in 10,000-20,000, if equal number thousands had written letters to their Congressmen, if all of them had visited local offices, if hundreds of them had visited DC offices - we would have succeeded by now. Steve King or not.

We did nothing, except make those last minute calls. We gave the lawmakers suggestion for solution (pass HR xxxxx), without bothering to educate them what the problem is and how many are impacted. Results were there for everyone to see, Horses bill was put for discussion before ours, making it very easy for Mr. King to do his dirty work.

We shouldn't be complaining. I bet the horse lovers (animal rights activists) were more active and successful in educating the lawmakers than our community. Hence they got the precedence.

Point is there will be lawmakers like Rep King and Sen Sessions, who'll oppose any visa increase or recapture, rain or sunshine. There are also lawmakers who are sympathetic to us to balance them out. Our biggest hurdle is other lawmakers who don't have a stand on the issue. They are the majority and their vote can go either way. Our biggest hurdle is to reach out to these lawmakers, explain our problems and convince them that a sufficiently large number of their constituents are impacted.

If we succeed in doing that, our battle is won. No King or Sessions can stop us.

Good job on bringing this back to fire.

But one sad thing that Steve king of Iowa got reelected and he is ready to filibuster.

saketkapur
11-21-2008, 05:25 PM
I-485s Not Tracked by Priority Date

A question was asked about the volume of employment-based I-485 Application for Adjustment of Status cases pending with NSC as of April 2008. Also asked was how many of the cases had current priority dates. The NSC advised that they had, at that time, approximately 190,000 EB I-485s. They also clarified that they do not track cases solely by priority date. While we are aware that cases were not tracked by priority dates, from the questions we receive, it is worth reiterating to our readers. Our firm see questions, frequently accompanied by outrage, asking why I-485 cases with later priority dates are approved prior to those with earlier priority dates. The answer is simply that the USCIS service centers do not re-sort or track I-485s solely based upon priority dates. Case processing is based upon filing date, but I-485s cannot be approved if the priority date is not current. The NSC also referenced the need for an I-485 to be what they refer to as "viable" in order to be approved. Viable cases are those with approved I-140 petitions, clean fingerprint and name-check results (or name checks pending over 180 days), as well as being eligible for visa issuance, based upon priority date.

ItIsNotFunny
11-21-2008, 05:35 PM
I appreciate your enthusiasm.

That's very true. Shame on us for being lazy and waiting for the right moment.
The 16th district teams needs to be more re-united. I will talk to digital2k and arrange to meet Zoe in few days.

gc_on_demand
11-21-2008, 07:31 PM
That's very true. Shame on us for being lazy and waiting for the right moment.
The 16th district teams needs to be more re-united. I will talk to digital2k and arrange to meet Zoe in few days.

I was looking for some one who is from Dis 16th. Please start movement rfom there.. ( her office ) do let me know what comes out. I am ready with next action iteam.. call list... unless she agrees nothing can start except media drive.

Kushal
11-21-2008, 08:16 PM
Thanks...I'm not in the 16th district, but if I'm not wrong digital2k is. I will talk to him and schedule a meeting with Zoe very soon...

I was looking for some one who is from Dis 16th. Please start movement rfom there.. ( her office ) do let me know what comes out. I am ready with next action iteam.. call list... unless she agrees nothing can start except media drive.

walking_dude
11-21-2008, 08:31 PM
Folks, it's a good thing you guys are doing a grassroots drive. But please keep the chatter out of the public forums.

Anti-immigrants prowl on IV as members. If they get an hint, you are meeting any Rep./Senator on some day, they'll bombard that office with phone calls, E-mails and faxes same day or next day. It will in effect nullify all your efforts. It has happened in the past and it's sure to happen in the future.

So, please excercise due caution. Do not share information with the folks you don't know very well. These kind of actions are best suited to be carried out in your state chapter mailing-lists, where members are screened before joining. IV forums being public anyone can create a fake id in half an hour or one hour. It's not secure to carry these types of actions.

Thanks...I'm not in the 16th district, but if I'm not wrong digital2k is. I will talk to him and schedule a meeting with Zoe very soon...

vkrishn
11-21-2008, 11:32 PM
Hello all,
I am in San jose and infact i have been to Zoe Lofgren's office to check on my case status. Please PM me if i can be of any help.

pappu
11-22-2008, 12:04 AM
Dude nothing will happen, this was lost and last battle.


The problem is us, yes "us". Most of us come to check whats on the website and then make sure we stay abreast with it. No one wants to work etc mile except making stupid phone calls and sending faxes.


NOTHING WILL HAPPEN Because we are DESIS


All the people who got EAD's act as if " I don't care now, I got EAD " I have spoken to few Indians and this has been their response.All these suckers are good for what? You all got EAD, congrats you sit on your bud and wait for years. We all have seen how the bulletin is working.

Illegals are better than us at least they are united and they are actively involved.

We need the IV core team and the administrator to guide some big rally's. Guys nothing will happen until we are bold about our intentions.
I noticed everyone comes up with their different ideas, but no one works to implement it. We need to stand together and do something big, when was the last time we had a big rally?

And how many people actually showed up? Desi's wants everything fast and free.
One of the reasons friends of mine from IV have left being disappointed.

Yes 2007 was a milestone for a few people, but a disaster for people like us, who had PD in 07, had July fiasco not happened we could have seen some positive movement, rather being put on a swing ------------------ go front----------------------- go back.


So all the junior and new members until you guys quantitatively plan something big and real, nothing will happen. We all have our own problems, life in America is not simple, but in order for us to accomplish something we all need to unite and do something big, the problem is lately IV thinks too much and has less of ACTION

All new members need to take a more active role in order to succeed and continue this effort for a long time for future immigrants.

I do not think having an EAD is a cause of inaction. It is more about having confidence in the effort that their effort will truly help them and everyone else like them. They can get confidence only when they get involved and get in the thick of things and see for themselves how things work. I have heard people calling USCIS every other day finding their status if they just get an LUD. People take infopass just to find out their name check status. So why can't these people make calls to lawmakers and take an appointment to meet their lawmakers.

Until some time back people were by and large afraid to even write to lawmaker offices. But when their case was stuck in namechecks, they wrote to everyone including WH. So why cant we write letters during an action item? We need to think like a community and not as an individual in need of a greencard. An individual cannot achieve anything alone but a voice of thousands can do a lot.

We should feel happy that there is an immigration voice that is a voice of this community. It is not a lawyer forum created for a lawyer's publicity or a forum managed by any business interest to make profit off this community. The aim here is to get people relief from their immigration problems and IV resources are utilized for the community. People need to adopt IV as their place to go for all immigration related discussions and data from IV tracker and visit this site more often and try to get involved. Remember that just by visiting this site frequently, you are helping this effort in some ways.

Until IV was there, people were scared to post freely about employers, lawyers, USCIS, lawmakers etc. People were not willing to come out in the open with their real names for some unknown fear. But when Immigration voice came, everyone starting gaining confidence and did not have any fear. You can see that from the kind of posts we see these days on the forums. Such posts never existed 2 years ago.

This in itself is an achievement for immigration voice and this community. We have generated so much awareness about this cause that never existed few years ago. Legal immigration was only about H1B quota. After the sucess of July I485 filings last year we were able to get the 2 year EAD rule this year due to the admin fixes campaign . So let us not measure our successes and failture with a bill. There is a lot else we have acheived in the last couple of years.

We can look forward to a lot more if we all continue to work positively and involve more people in this effort and on this website.

vkrishn
11-22-2008, 12:14 AM
@Kaushal and digitial 2K. Please let me know what i can do. I am in the 16th district and her office is not too far from my place.

walking_dude
11-22-2008, 12:57 AM
I have talked to IV leadership and they have agreed to hold a rally in March 1st Week, if sufficient numbers indicate willingness to participate.

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=303461

So can we please stop blaming IV leaders and start showing them our support by indicating our support?




We need the IV core team and the administrator to guide some big rally's. Guys nothing will happen until we are bold about our intentions.
I noticed everyone comes up with their different ideas, but no one works to implement it. We need to stand together and do something big, when was the last time we had a big rally?

We all have our own problems, life in America is not simple, but in order for us to accomplish something we all need to unite and do something big, the problem is lately IV thinks too much and has less of ACTION

bobzibub
11-22-2008, 02:18 AM
....
The question I was asked by the Congressional staff repeatedly was - 'If so many thousands are impacted, why are we seeing just 4-5 coming to DC asking for help? Why aren't we hearing about from our constituents? Why is it always 'the outsiders' approaching us? Why aren't they visiting us? Why aren't they writing letters to us?'. So many questions with no answers!
...

-Many in the immigrant community come from countries where corruption is endemic.

-USCIS controls our economic freedom, movement, where we work and reside, and if we "rock the boat" our file might be "deep-sixed" and we would have no recourse. Who knows, a petty officer could browse a news group, read this and sick Home land security goons me. I would never know why. We don't all have the resources to hire powerful lawyers and fight for a couple years. Did they take 120 days to renew my EAD because I visited my congressional representative's staff? Maybe.

-"Transparent" and "accountable" are words not often used to describe USCIS and her parent Homeland Security. But they do have complete authority over our lives. Kafka could write a book! (Oh, he did.)

-Many Americans are now afraid to join political protests for fear of being arrested and hence losing their job, etc. Why should immigrants be more politically active than Americans? They are publicly targeted by politicians as causing all the problems in the land (Tancredo for example) with out any serious rebuke. In my country Tancredo saying things he's said would have been considered a hate crime.

-There are many Americans (even level headed ones) that do not believe that immigrants have any right to push for change in US policy. Regardless of whether it is change for the better, and there is no other constituency to demand improvements. The argument goes that regardless of the request, if you don't like it you should go home. (Of course the answer is to flip it and say: should Americans be treated poorly when living in my country? Sheepish looks ensue...)

-Depending upon your level of risk aversion, it is often rational for the immigrant (who's stay is tenuous) to stay home and be "good" which means pliant.

In summary, the US scares the freak'n crap out of a lot of people. And so they "behave" as best they can. This should not be a revelation to the staffers.

I don't agree that we should be pliant. We should be in their face because they deserve it.

As for me, I've come to the point that I think being kicked out of the US would be like getting fired from a crappy job I didn't have the guts to quit. :D

kumarc123
11-22-2008, 10:08 AM
I have talked to IV leadership and they have agreed to hold a rally in March 1st Week, if sufficient numbers indicate willingness to participate.

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=303461

So can we please stop blaming IV leaders and start showing them our support by indicating our support?

No one is blaming IV core my friend, but we all need to unite and do something big. We cant just wait for our partner to do something.

Yes, we should hold a rally in March in DC, and what we should do is, members who agreed to come and join us good enough,


The ones who are lazy, can continue to be lazy , you all have seen the bulletin and EAD is not green card. You are welcome to take your lazy chances,


I thought INDIANS were to stand together and fight a battle, this is a battle for the justice of immigrants in this country. I understand and I am versed with life in America, it is stressful. But think for a moment,will the green card make it better? If yes then join us.



This time we will use a different approach.


1. We will have banners on DESI stores
2. We will collect money from IV members.
3. We will contact the media for attention


Lets do this,

Good Luck

walking_dude
11-22-2008, 12:02 PM
- What does corruption-back-home has to do with it? There is a more open political discourse here. We should either participate and let them know what we want, or they will do whatever they want ( like they tried to reduce EB quota to 90,000 in the last CIR).

- I have been to many lawmaker Offices in Michigan, I have visited several lawmaker offices in DC (both in and out of Michigan). Over that, I went and testified before MI Senate Transportation committee when they were denying Driving Licences to all foreign workers.

If you think they delayed your EAD for 120 days, why do you think they approved mine in 2 months flat, for full 2 years, even synchronizing the expiry date of the EAD with the validity of the new one (meaning, I didn't lose a single day)? May be they were angry that you weren't trying hard enough? :-)

They don't control your life dude, unless you let them control it. We won't progress much unless we get over the habit of feeling scared at our own shadows.

- Who's is talking about the USCIS here? The topic here is approaching the lawmakers. Transparent or not, didn't we convince them to give us 2 year EADs or not? Did you see AILA or Compete America do it for us? No, we did it ourselves as a community.

- Frankly speaking most Americans support Immigrants. Otherwise why do you think Obama won the election, despite clearly supporting the CIR in public, where as Tom Tancredo couldn't get pass round one of the presidential primaries, and no one even heard about Duncan Hunter another hero of the immigrants.

I agree, these anti-immigrants are vocal. But they are a minority. What they lack in numbers, they try to make up in decibels (volume). Their intent is to scare immigrants off America by making loud noises, the way KKK tried to scare African-Americans from voting by burning crosses, hanging nooses and such scare tactics.

- I don't buy your theory that folks here are afraid to march for their rights. In a few more months thousands of "illegal" immigrants will be marching in the streets of DC, risking getting deported if caught. They have done it before, they got Obama elected and they'll march again.

While legal immigrants lose sleep over getting EAD denied for posting on IV. What kind of a bizzaro world we are living in?

- I have already made the relevant points. If we are so risk aversive we should have stayed Home, meaning our home countries. Why did we take the risk of our planes getting hit by lightning or sucked into a storm? Or some Immigration or custom officer going crazy and packing us off to Guantanamo Bay?

A question to all EB immigrants - When will we give up our mental slavery?

-Many in the immigrant community come from countries where corruption is endemic.

-USCIS controls our economic freedom, movement, where we work and reside, and if we "rock the boat" our file might be "deep-sixed" and we would have no recourse. Who knows, a petty officer could browse a news group, read this and sick Home land security goons me. I would never know why. We don't all have the resources to hire powerful lawyers and fight for a couple years. Did they take 120 days to renew my EAD because I visited my congressional representative's staff? Maybe.

-"Transparent" and "accountable" are words not often used to describe USCIS and her parent Homeland Security. But they do have complete authority over our lives. Kafka could write a book! (Oh, he did.)

-Many Americans are now afraid to join political protests for fear of being arrested and hence losing their job, etc. Why should immigrants be more politically active than Americans? They are publicly targeted by politicians as causing all the problems in the land (Tancredo for example) with out any serious rebuke. In my country Tancredo saying things he's said would have been considered a hate crime.

-There are many Americans (even level headed ones) that do not believe that immigrants have any right to push for change in US policy. Regardless of whether it is change for the better, and there is no other constituency to demand improvements. The argument goes that regardless of the request, if you don't like it you should go home. (Of course the answer is to flip it and say: should Americans be treated poorly when living in my country? Sheepish looks ensue...)

-Depending upon your level of risk aversion, it is often rational for the immigrant (who's stay is tenuous) to stay home and be "good" which means pliant.

In summary, the US scares the freak'n crap out of a lot of people. And so they "behave" as best they can. This should not be a revelation to the staffers.

I don't agree that we should be pliant. We should be in their face because they deserve it.

As for me, I've come to the point that I think being kicked out of the US would be like getting fired from a crappy job I didn't have the guts to quit. :D

sanju
11-22-2008, 01:52 PM
In case anybody noticed, the GREATEST friend of EB community, Senator Durbin is now the acting Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee. In the absense of Sen. Kennedy, our GREATEST FRIEND is going to bat for us. Its going to be Great and we will see Recapture be the first bill pass in 111th congress. Congrats everyone, the GREAT participation of over a million "highly educated" "highly informed" immigrants will now be rewarded.




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sri1309
11-22-2008, 06:39 PM
Please keep writing to Obama.
http://www.barackobama.com/index.php and under Issues--> Immigration. Dont forget to mention we're legal, in the US, 5-10 years wait time.

mahujam
12-17-2008, 06:59 PM
In case anybody noticed, the GREATEST friend of EB community, Senator Durbin is now the acting Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee. In the absense of Sen. Kennedy, our GREATEST FRIEND is going to bat for us. Its going to be Great and we will see Recapture be the first bill pass in 111th congress. Congrats everyone, the GREAT participation of over a million "highly educated" "highly informed" immigrants will now be rewarded.
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Sarcasm ? Or is he really our friend ? Bad at remembering names.

-M

leoindiano
12-18-2008, 11:09 AM
He is dead against H1B. Not sure about Greencards.

He is a good freind of obama. I just hope he wont be chosen for labor secreatary post which is one of the two those are empty at the moment.

sanju
12-18-2008, 11:24 AM
Sarcasm ? Or is he really our friend ? Bad at remembering names.

-M

That's ok, totally understand.

Sorry, I did not raise my arm to indicate that it was ALL sarcasm. Durbin is aginst H1B. Although his press release says that he is not against green cards, but thats just bull.

And if he is appointed Labor Secretary, that will be the last straw to break the camel's back.


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