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pappu
06-10-2010, 04:50 PM
OPPOSE the Sanders-Grassley-Harkin amendment S.AMDT.4319 in bill H.R.4213 which severely hurts Competitiveness, Innovation and creating jobs in America



It will only take less then 1 minute of your time to click this link ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy -- OPPOSE the Sanders-Grassley-Harkin amendment S.AMDT.4319 in bill H.R.4213 which severely hurts Competitiveness, Innovation and creating jobs in America (http://immigrationvoice.capwiz.com/immigrationvoice/issues/alert/?alertid=15130466)

and send the message out.


Please post this link on other forums and mail to friends asking them to join this action item.

Text of the Amendment on IV Wiki: http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/US_Congress#Immigration_related_legislation.2C_con gressional_action_and_regulatory_actions

vine93
06-10-2010, 04:54 PM
sent

Karthikthiru
06-10-2010, 04:55 PM
Done. Just did it

swissgear
06-10-2010, 04:59 PM
sent...thanks

LONGGCQUE
06-10-2010, 04:59 PM
Just sent it Nebraska Senators

srinivas_o
06-10-2010, 05:00 PM
Sent and forwarded to 3 of my friends.


OPPOSE the Sanders-Grassley-Harkin amendment S.AMDT.4319 in bill H.R.4213 which severely hurts Competitiveness, Innovation and creating jobs in America



It will only take less then 1 minute of your time to click this link ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy -- OPPOSE the Sanders-Grassley-Harkin amendment S.AMDT.4319 in bill H.R.4213 which severely hurts Competitiveness, Innovation and creating jobs in America (http://immigrationvoice.capwiz.com/immigrationvoice/issues/alert/?alertid=15130466)

and send the message out


Please post this link on other forums and mail to friends asking them to join this action item.

newyorker123
06-10-2010, 05:04 PM
Me and my wife sent out.

newuser
06-10-2010, 05:04 PM
Done

kiran24
06-10-2010, 05:05 PM
sent it.

gc28262
06-10-2010, 05:05 PM
Done !

mmk123
06-10-2010, 05:06 PM
done. thanks!

Rajeev
06-10-2010, 05:06 PM
Done

new_horizon
06-10-2010, 05:08 PM
Done

NWISE
06-10-2010, 05:08 PM
Done

av2004
06-10-2010, 05:09 PM
Sent e-mail to my senators..

jjava100
06-10-2010, 05:10 PM
Just sent it. I also sent it to 5 of my friends who are not IV members yet..

snathan
06-10-2010, 05:11 PM
Done...

godspeed
06-10-2010, 05:18 PM
...

gk_2000
06-10-2010, 05:20 PM
Done..

new2gc
06-10-2010, 05:23 PM
done.. and fwd to other friends as well.

sunny1000
06-10-2010, 05:24 PM
done

GreenMe
06-10-2010, 05:27 PM
Done and sent out to 10 other friends.

anyluck?
06-10-2010, 05:29 PM
Sent to California senators

Forwarded to 5 friends

ambals03
06-10-2010, 05:39 PM
Done and forwarded to 10 friends.

silibili
06-10-2010, 05:40 PM
done

Raj2006
06-10-2010, 05:49 PM
done.

redds777
06-10-2010, 05:51 PM
Sent



OPPOSE the Sanders-Grassley-Harkin amendment S.AMDT.4319 in bill H.R.4213 which severely hurts Competitiveness, Innovation and creating jobs in America



It will only take less then 1 minute of your time to click this link ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy -- OPPOSE the Sanders-Grassley-Harkin amendment S.AMDT.4319 in bill H.R.4213 which severely hurts Competitiveness, Innovation and creating jobs in America (http://immigrationvoice.capwiz.com/immigrationvoice/issues/alert/?alertid=15130466)

and send the message out


Please post this link on other forums and mail to friends asking them to join this action item.

kk_kk
06-10-2010, 05:53 PM
Sent

kandhu
06-10-2010, 05:55 PM
Done

Winner
06-10-2010, 06:03 PM
Did my part.

gcinprogress
06-10-2010, 06:16 PM
Sent. Also added my friends.

seahawks
06-10-2010, 06:49 PM
sent, also forwarded to friends.

achu
06-10-2010, 06:53 PM
sent email. thanks.

Jai_MD
06-10-2010, 07:23 PM
done and request fellow members who are on the sidelines to do the same!

GreenCard4US
06-10-2010, 07:24 PM
For whatever reason, rumors are flying all over the Internet that the end of H1B and EAD employment authorization is at hand. This is complete nonsense. The purported basis for these rumors is an amendment offered in the Senate (S. Amdt. 4319) to a tax bill previously passed by the House (HR 4213). As written, this proposal would prohibit companies from filing H1B petitions if the company has laid off any employees in the last year. It would also void all existing H petitions for a company if the company lays off personnel.

Let's put this in context. Microsoft decides to lay off some of its loading dock personnel because they want to outsource that work. Under this proposal, they would then have to terminate all of their H1B engineers. That simply doesn't pass the laugh test.

Like most of Grassley's proposals, this amendment is pure idiocy. I suppose that's what happens when your parents are siblings. This bill has absolutely no chance of ever becoming law. .

bpratap
06-10-2010, 07:24 PM
Sent to California Senators

WAIT_FOR_EVER_GC
06-10-2010, 07:39 PM
Me and 10 of my friends at work have sent the email.
My wife and the wife's of friends have sent too.

greyhair
06-10-2010, 08:30 PM
For whatever reason, rumors are flying all over the Internet that the end of H1B and EAD employment authorization is at hand. This is complete nonsense. The purported basis for these rumors is an amendment offered in the Senate (S. Amdt. 4319) to a tax bill previously passed by the House (HR 4213). As written, this proposal would prohibit companies from filing H1B petitions if the company has laid off any employees in the last year. It would also void all existing H petitions for a company if the company lays off personnel.

Let's put this in context. Microsoft decides to lay off some of its loading dock personnel because they want to outsource that work. Under this proposal, they would then have to terminate all of their H1B engineers. That simply doesn't pass the laugh test.

Like most of Grassley's proposals, this amendment is pure idiocy. I suppose that's what happens when your parents are siblings. This bill has absolutely no chance of ever becoming law. .

It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. Pandering to the client base will not help the clients, it will only help the service provider.

mdcowboy
06-10-2010, 08:42 PM
sent it to my friends too..this bill is ridiculous!:mad:

mgmanoj
06-10-2010, 08:49 PM
Done - sent to Alabama senators

spicy_guy
06-10-2010, 08:50 PM
Done!

Leo07
06-10-2010, 08:53 PM
Thanks a bunch!

jaocanada
06-10-2010, 09:29 PM
Sent.

ckichannagari
06-10-2010, 09:44 PM
sent the message ..
I will be asking 6 more friends to do the same.

bigboy007
06-10-2010, 10:06 PM
It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. Pandering to the client base will not help the clients, it will only help the service provider.
rightly said. This is not first time this came up on radar. with success of TARP this comes up everytime we fix the system.

Administrator2
06-10-2010, 10:20 PM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE SEND THE MESSAGE. WE WILL ALSO START WITH THE PHONE CAMPAIGN IN THE MORNING.

Reason being, the other side is writing letters to other Senators to seek their support. They want to see this amendment pass. Here is the letter.

************************************************** ***************

COMPANIES LAYING-OFF THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN WORKERS DON’T NEED GUEST WORKERS

Please Support the Sanders-Grassley Employ America Amendment to the Tax Extenders bill


Dear Colleague:

Since the recession started in December of 2007, nearly 8 million Americans have lost their jobs and the unemployment rate has nearly doubled. In total, 15 million Americans are officially unemployed, another 8.8 million Americans are working part-time only because they cannot find a full-time job, and more than one million workers have given up looking for work altogether.

With the unemployment rate still unacceptably high and millions of people looking for a job, we have a responsibility to ensure that companies do not use temporary visa programs to replace American workers with cheaper labor from overseas.

Therefore, during the consideration of the American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act, we will be offering an amendment that would prohibit companies which have announced mass lay-offs over the past year from hiring guest workers, unless they can prove that their overall employment will not be reduced as a result of these lay-offs.

At a time when millions of Americans are out of work, the notion that we need to import labor from abroad because there are not enough qualified, willing or able American workers in this country rings hollow.

Recently, some of the very companies that have hired tens of thousands of guest-workers from overseas have announced large scale lay-offs of American workers. The high-tech industry, a major employer of H-1B guest workers, has announced over 330,000 job cuts since 2008. The construction industry, a major employer of H-2B guest-workers, has laid-off 1.9 million workers since December of 2007.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan, signed into law last February, included a provision to prevent companies receiving assistance through the Troubled Asset Relief Program from replacing laid-off American workers with guest-workers from overseas.

The Employ America Act expands upon this provision to prevent any company engaged in a mass lay-off of American workers from importing cheaper labor from abroad through temporary guest-worker programs. Those companies that are truly facing labor shortages would not be impacted by this legislation and could continue to obtain employer-sponsored visas. Only companies that are laying-off a large number of Americans would be barred from importing foreign workers through guest worker programs.

If you would like to co-sponsor this amendment, please have your staff contact Warren Gunnels in Sen. Sanders’ office at 8-6358 or Kathy Nuebel Kovarik in Sen. Grassley's office at 4-3744.

Sincerely,


____________________ ____________________

BERNARD SANDERS CHARLES E. GRASSLEY

UNITED STATES SENATOR UNITED STATES SENATOR

************************************************** ***************

mallikonnet
06-10-2010, 10:26 PM
done

delhikadesi
06-10-2010, 10:36 PM
done

Winner
06-11-2010, 09:02 AM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE SEND THE MESSAGE. WE WILL ALSO START WITH THE PHONE CAMPAIGN IN THE MORNING.

Reason being, the other side is writing letters to other Senators to seek their support. They want to see this amendment pass. Here is the letter.

************************************************** ***************

COMPANIES LAYING-OFF THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN WORKERS DON’T NEED GUEST WORKERS

Please Support the Sanders-Grassley Employ America Amendment to the Tax Extenders bill


Dear Colleague:

Since the recession started in December of 2007, nearly 8 million Americans have lost their jobs and the unemployment rate has nearly doubled. In total, 15 million Americans are officially unemployed, another 8.8 million Americans are working part-time only because they cannot find a full-time job, and more than one million workers have given up looking for work altogether.

With the unemployment rate still unacceptably high and millions of people looking for a job, we have a responsibility to ensure that companies do not use temporary visa programs to replace American workers with cheaper labor from overseas.

Therefore, during the consideration of the American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act, we will be offering an amendment that would prohibit companies which have announced mass lay-offs over the past year from hiring guest workers, unless they can prove that their overall employment will not be reduced as a result of these lay-offs.

At a time when millions of Americans are out of work, the notion that we need to import labor from abroad because there are not enough qualified, willing or able American workers in this country rings hollow.

Recently, some of the very companies that have hired tens of thousands of guest-workers from overseas have announced large scale lay-offs of American workers. The high-tech industry, a major employer of H-1B guest workers, has announced over 330,000 job cuts since 2008. The construction industry, a major employer of H-2B guest-workers, has laid-off 1.9 million workers since December of 2007.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan, signed into law last February, included a provision to prevent companies receiving assistance through the Troubled Asset Relief Program from replacing laid-off American workers with guest-workers from overseas.

The Employ America Act expands upon this provision to prevent any company engaged in a mass lay-off of American workers from importing cheaper labor from abroad through temporary guest-worker programs. Those companies that are truly facing labor shortages would not be impacted by this legislation and could continue to obtain employer-sponsored visas. Only companies that are laying-off a large number of Americans would be barred from importing foreign workers through guest worker programs.

If you would like to co-sponsor this amendment, please have your staff contact Warren Gunnels in Sen. Sanders’ office at 8-6358 or Kathy Nuebel Kovarik in Sen. Grassley's office at 4-3744.

Sincerely,


____________________ ____________________

BERNARD SANDERS CHARLES E. GRASSLEY

UNITED STATES SENATOR UNITED STATES SENATOR

************************************************** ***************

This underscores the urgency. Please act on the action item NOW.

GCVictim
06-11-2010, 09:04 AM
sent TX sentors

gc_maine2
06-11-2010, 09:06 AM
Completed just now

my2239
06-11-2010, 09:38 AM
sent message
Thank you for creating the easy to use interface

new2gc
06-11-2010, 09:43 AM
They have given up looking for job because we (tax payers) are feeding them with unemployment benefits.......that are almost equal to normal wage of a hard working person..... whose fault is that?? Immigrants?? oh yeah..


>>>>>

Dear Colleague:

Since the recession started in December of 2007, nearly 8 million Americans have lost their jobs and the unemployment rate has nearly doubled. In total, 15 million Americans are officially unemployed, another 8.8 million Americans are working part-time only because they cannot find a full-time job, and more than one million workers have given up ooking for work altogether <<<<<<

wa_Saiprasad
06-11-2010, 09:45 AM
Done.

Also urging my friends to email.

gc28262
06-11-2010, 09:49 AM
I know at least one person ( US citizen) who decided to be on unemployment benefits rather than working even though he can find at least 2 jobs. He says it is better to be on unemployment benefit rather than working for the same amount of money.

geniousatwork
06-11-2010, 09:50 AM
done....me and my wife did it

xlr8r
06-11-2010, 09:55 AM
Done.

smuggymba
06-11-2010, 09:57 AM
sent to TX senators.

coldcloud
06-11-2010, 10:22 AM
Sent.

pappu
06-11-2010, 10:31 AM
We updated the content of this mail today. Please resend if you had sent yesterday.

gc28262
06-11-2010, 10:36 AM
resent it !

hsingh82
06-11-2010, 10:36 AM
Reply I received:
Thank you for contacting my offices. Your correspondence has been received, and we will respond to you as quickly as possible. A copy of your message is attached below for your records.

If you need immediate assistance regarding an urgent problem you are experiencing with the federal government, visit the "Help With Federal Agencies" section of the website for details on how to proceed so that your difficulties are brought to my attention as soon as possible.

If you are seeking information or services from my offices that are NOT related to my Legislative duties, please visit my "Services For Texans" section for more information.

Warmest Regards,
U.S. Senator John Cornyn

godspeed
06-11-2010, 10:40 AM
and forwarded to 20 of my friends, will follow up with them to send the message

thescadaman
06-11-2010, 10:44 AM
sent..

jungalee43
06-11-2010, 10:45 AM
Done.

rayoflight
06-11-2010, 10:57 AM
Sent to MD Senators

silibili
06-11-2010, 11:14 AM
Resent to Alabama senators.

ebizash
06-11-2010, 11:23 AM
Sent to IL lawmakers.

Forwarded to a few friends.

kumarc123
06-11-2010, 11:31 AM
OPPOSE the Sanders-Grassley-Harkin amendment S.AMDT.4319 in bill H.R.4213 which severely hurts Competitiveness, Innovation and creating jobs in America



It will only take less then 1 minute of your time to click this link ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy -- OPPOSE the Sanders-Grassley-Harkin amendment S.AMDT.4319 in bill H.R.4213 which severely hurts Competitiveness, Innovation and creating jobs in America (http://immigrationvoice.capwiz.com/immigrationvoice/issues/alert/?alertid=15130466)

and send the message out


Please post this link on other forums and mail to friends asking them to join this action item.

Sent.

Thank you for your hard work.

yabayaba
06-11-2010, 11:41 AM
Done

kaella
06-11-2010, 11:43 AM
Just did it.

arkrish68
06-11-2010, 11:44 AM
I and my wife we both did send the email.

perm2gc
06-11-2010, 11:49 AM
Send the mail ..

ckichannagari
06-11-2010, 11:57 AM
just sent again after modified contents..

bigboy007
06-11-2010, 12:11 PM
See below what Anti Immigrants are doing. Each and everyone visits this site should sign what IV have given the link

The following makes no sense it is utter non-sense.


COMPANIES LAYING-OFF THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN WORKERS DON’T NEED GUEST WORKERS

Please Support the Sanders-Grassley Employ America Amendment to the Tax Extenders bill


Dear Colleague:

Since the recession started in December of 2007, nearly 8 million Americans have lost their jobs and the unemployment rate has nearly doubled. In total, 15 million Americans are officially unemployed, another 8.8 million Americans are working part-time only because they cannot find a full-time job, and more than one million workers have given up looking for work altogether.

With the unemployment rate still unacceptably high and millions of people looking for a job, we have a responsibility to ensure that companies do not use temporary visa programs to replace American workers with cheaper labor from overseas.

Therefore, during the consideration of the American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act, we will be offering an amendment that would prohibit companies which have announced mass lay-offs over the past year from hiring guest workers, unless they can prove that their overall employment will not be reduced as a result of these lay-offs.

At a time when millions of Americans are out of work, the notion that we need to import labor from abroad because there are not enough qualified, willing or able American workers in this country rings hollow.

Recently, some of the very companies that have hired tens of thousands of guest-workers from overseas have announced large scale lay-offs of American workers. The high-tech industry, a major employer of H-1B guest workers, has announced over 330,000 job cuts since 2008. The construction industry, a major employer of H-2B guest-workers, has laid-off 1.9 million workers since December of 2007.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan, signed into law last February, included a provision to prevent companies receiving assistance through the Troubled Asset Relief Program from replacing laid-off American workers with guest-workers from overseas.

The Employ America Act expands upon this provision to prevent any company engaged in a mass lay-off of American workers from importing cheaper labor from abroad through temporary guest-worker programs. Those companies that are truly facing labor shortages would not be impacted by this legislation and could continue to obtain employer-sponsored visas. Only companies that are laying-off a large number of Americans would be barred from importing foreign workers through guest worker programs.

If you would like to co-sponsor this amendment, please have your staff contact Warren Gunnels in Sen. Sanders’ office at 8-6358 or Kathy Nuebel Kovarik in Sen. Grassley's office at 4-3744.

Sincerely
Called up my friends, forwarded to dozens of my friends and asked them to forward.

Suva
06-11-2010, 12:29 PM
Sent to NJ lawmakers.

skillet
06-11-2010, 12:37 PM
Just sent to VA senators

gk_2000
06-11-2010, 12:40 PM
Re-sent to CA senators

Madhuri
06-11-2010, 12:47 PM
Done

ppt.b
06-11-2010, 12:49 PM
...

mhathi
06-11-2010, 12:52 PM
Sent early this morning, then resent after Pappu's message.

GC_dd
06-11-2010, 12:56 PM
done

hpandey
06-11-2010, 01:02 PM
Sent the mail today.

nat23
06-11-2010, 01:05 PM
Sent

sankalp
06-11-2010, 01:13 PM
rightly said. This is not first time this came up on radar. with success of TARP this comes up everytime we fix the system.

Done

Senator John Cornyn (R-TX)
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)

letstalklc
06-11-2010, 01:21 PM
Thanks IV, great tool to send out emails.

snthampi
06-11-2010, 01:32 PM
Just sent email to senators.

udaykiran82
06-11-2010, 01:48 PM
sent

veereddy
06-11-2010, 01:49 PM
Sent

looneytunezez
06-11-2010, 01:49 PM
Sent message to my senators (CA).

PD200711
06-11-2010, 02:03 PM
Sent to my Senators (NC)

nc14
06-11-2010, 02:39 PM
Thanks much.

catchupvijay
06-11-2010, 03:01 PM
Thanks!

gulute
06-11-2010, 03:11 PM
done

dhirajs98
06-11-2010, 03:16 PM
Sent an email out and forwarded it to 4 friends.

desixp
06-11-2010, 03:26 PM
Done!

rayoflight
06-11-2010, 04:17 PM
Pappu,

Is there a way to know the list of the states the mail was sent to. As you know it is very important for these mails going to all the 50 states in huge numbers.

Thanks,
Rayoflight

gcgonewild
06-11-2010, 04:22 PM
Sent to NJ Lawmakers

pappu
06-11-2010, 04:25 PM
Pappu,

Is there a way to know the list of the states the mail was sent to. As you know it is very important for these mails going to all the 50 states in huge numbers.

Thanks,
Rayoflight

The mail will only be sent to your US Senators from your state.

yetanotherguyinline
06-11-2010, 04:27 PM
Letter printed out and mailed via snail mail.

frostrated
06-11-2010, 04:55 PM
Done. Sent to senators in Texas. Also sent to house members just so that they are aware.

Sent to all friends : Citizens, GC holders and those in the same boat as us. Even sent to native born Americans to help us to help their country.

frostrated
06-11-2010, 05:02 PM
Why are Harkin and Sanders supporting this bill. They are both children of immigrants. They need to understand the struggle their parents went through.

bigboy007
06-11-2010, 05:34 PM
Why are Harkin and Sanders supporting this bill. They are both children of immigrants. They need to understand the struggle their parents went through.
There were many instances where IV tried to reach out to them, They are doing this not because they are ignorant. They are aware of the outcomes but their vision is narrowed.

rk78
06-11-2010, 06:23 PM
sent e-mail to AZ senators

nfinity
06-11-2010, 06:52 PM
to IL senator

sirinme
06-11-2010, 08:34 PM
Just sent.

rajimmigration
06-11-2010, 10:58 PM
Done

looivy
06-11-2010, 11:36 PM
Emaied IL senator and will snail mail as well. Same for my spouse.

larun
06-12-2010, 09:36 AM
Done

nitlsu
06-12-2010, 09:45 AM
Done for me and spouse. We also had ~20 other people in my neighborhood including citizens/GC send this.

hopefullegalimmigrant
06-12-2010, 07:04 PM
Sent

sage2006
06-13-2010, 01:10 AM
If this has not been done already..a good idea might be to spread this message among the hundreds of International Student (including Indian/Chinese) associations. They are already having trouble entering as graduates into a tough job market and this anti-H1B proposal will only make things worse...no additional incentive for students to join this IV initiative. I will forward to my alma mater and couple of other student associations I am aware of.

gc_peshwa
06-13-2010, 01:49 AM
done...and recommended to friends already.

pappu
06-14-2010, 09:47 AM
/\/\/

gclabor07
06-14-2010, 10:04 AM
Everyone should do it. It was easy.

slowwin
06-14-2010, 10:11 AM
Email sent to both Texas US senators.

mmanurker
06-14-2010, 11:08 AM
Done....sent to NJ senators

godspeed
06-14-2010, 12:41 PM
Senator Saxby Chambliss has voted against the original Senate version of H.R. 4213

rayoflight
06-15-2010, 11:02 AM
I meant can we get a list of all the states the emails have been sent by all the members.

The mail will only be sent to your US Senators from your state.

whattodo21
06-16-2010, 09:43 AM
Sent it to my Senators.

However, is it possible to send it to Senators Grassley, Sanders too. I say this because these senators need to hear that we oppose this bill too and I am not sure how many of our members from IA and VT are active and are sending this message to them.

slowwin
06-16-2010, 02:06 PM
what happened with this amdt. Did it fail or pass ?:confused:

gk_2000
06-20-2010, 02:32 AM
You talk big. You could be writing speeches for the next US president.

Big talk can be made from any side. And try putting a pro-immigration post in numbersusa; it'll be gone and account deleted. Perhaps they'll welcome you there

greyhair
06-20-2010, 10:40 AM
My friend I have seen many things in my 45 years life. But never have I seen as much bullshit in one post. If you are so smart that your invention could lose $3 billion in a quarter, why are you unemployed for last 1 yr? If you don’t have a job it has got to be someone else’s fault, right? This is not a new trend. While you are ok to work in a company started by an immigrant or in a technology created by an immigrant, you find it morally wrong for immigrants to compete with you, right? As if immigrants should be denied to right to compete with “real Americans”. And this “real American” thing is so full of it. You are real American because your forefathers came here in 1700? But weren’t your forefathers ILLEGALLS when they came here uninvited? In a fair competition environment you are not going to get any edge over others just because someone has lived here for 5 generations.

None of us came here uninvited. For last 16 years I am here LEGALLY at the invitation of my employer - an American enterprise which makes and keeps America great. Your “real American” thing is so bullshit because everyone loves to claim that they are only “real Americans” and rest everyone is fake. I find your portrayal reprehensible that only you are on the side of “America” and you competition is “evil and against all Americans”. This is not only stupid, but plain dumb.

Simple fact is this, you cannot compete with your competition and for that reason you have to throw out this bull crap about “real American”, “illegal”, “Chinaman”, “Hitler” etc., did I miss something? Hear me out because this competition is not going to go away with Sander’s amendment or any other human law. Even if I leave, I will take my job with me and I will continue to compete with you. I will beat you again and again at any fair competition, even from the other side of the globe. The reason is, you are not willing to improve, learn and compete. But you can continue to complaint and cry foul. Sander’s amendment will not do iota to get you a job because you have been conditioned to live on unemployment compensation. Best of luck to the self style “real American” because with your attitude you sure need a whole lot of it.



At what point are all you anti-American morons going to end this. Immigration followed to the letter of the law - YES. But if you came here illegally, are working here illegally, or are for immigration in any other form than that of the letter of the law - I am sorry. But getting to the point of this. If it wasn't for all of this illegal immigration, if it wasn't for countries ESPECIALLY India and China driving the AMERICAN way of life as a race to the bottom instead of a race to the top - we would NOT need this law. See you all have it wrong - we TRUE aAmericans like me who have 5 generations going back to the late 1700's....my forefathers laid the plan - laid their lives down to build this country and I paid my dues to get my GOOD PAYING job in IT that I worked and slaved for 20 years. And to have an immigrant whose country has done nothing but ride the tailcoats of what we Americans have done and claim it as there own. We have a word for it here in the US - theft. And that is what it is - these jobs that we are trying to fight for here have been STOLEN. And yet there are so many of you who just think that is ok - sure who care let them go....if a Hitler type were to rise again and another World War were to come.....this GREAT Country that you declare to love would not be able to defend itself.....because it's fabric....it's backbone has been dismantled my the theft - by the race to the bottom, by whatever you want to call it....it's all but gone - the dream that you think is still there is a puff of smoke my friends...plain and simple. There is not an INDIAN or CHINAMAN that has the background in IT nor the number of US Patents, and inventions that I have given to the companies that I have worked for and for the country I love. Yet one year after being unemployed I still can't find a job and as a book that is about to be released will educate most on you of who I am find this out - I dare you to look carefully and see just how many others like me are being displaced by un-americans and how that knowledge is taking the competitiveness of the US and shipping it overseas. How sad it is. There is a chapter in the book of one of by greatest inventions that has stood for 10 years to protect a certain part of your life....it was never breached -it never failed in 10 years and yet last month, my former boss showed me how almost 3 billion dollars this quater of American wealth was erased because an Indian person now controls that system and doesn't understand what he's doing and even though I could point it out in a 10 minute conversation I won't and I hope that some of you who are saying no to this in a way without understanding it lose your hard earned money.....I certainly have lost more than you can imagine.....all I can say in the end is not God Bless the USA - but God Help Us.....God Help the USA.

bigboy007
06-20-2010, 01:27 PM
My friend I have seen many things in my 45 years life. But never have I seen as much bullshit in one post. If you are so smart that your invention could lose $3 billion in a quarter, why are you unemployed for last 1 yr? If you don’t have a job it has got to be someone else’s fault, right? This is not a new trend. While you are ok to work in a company started by an immigrant or in a technology created by an immigrant, you find it morally wrong for immigrants to compete with you, right? As if immigrants should be denied to right to compete with “real Americans”. And this “real American” thing is so full of it. You are real American because your forefathers came here in 1700? But weren’t your forefathers ILLEGALLS when they came here uninvited? In a fair competition environment you are not going to get any edge over others just because someone has lived here for 5 generations.

None of us came here uninvited. For last 16 years I am here LEGALLY at the invitation of my employer - an American enterprise which makes and keeps America great. Your “real American” thing is so bullshit because everyone loves to claim that they are only “real Americans” and rest everyone is fake. I find your portrayal reprehensible that only you are on the side of “America” and you competition is “evil and against all Americans”. This is not only stupid, but plain dumb.

Simple fact is this, you cannot compete with your competition and for that reason you have to throw out this bull crap about “real American”, “illegal”, “Chinaman”, “Hitler” etc., did I miss something? Hear me out because this competition is not going to go away with Sander’s amendment or any other human law. Even if I leave, I will take my job with me and I will continue to compete with you. I will beat you again and again at any fair competition, even from the other side of the globe. The reason is, you are not willing to improve, learn and compete. But you can continue to complaint and cry foul. Sander’s amendment will not do iota to get you a job because you have been conditioned to live on unemployment compensation. Best of luck to the self style “real American” because with your attitude you sure need a whole lot of it.
Well said, BUT No need to reply to ppl like these, they enjoy personal pleasure in these posts as they cant stop off-shoring and feel that their lawmakers are doing best to them, but they dont realize that this encourages off-shoring or displacement of workforce.

mmanurker
07-01-2010, 03:46 PM
This is the response I got from NJ senator:

Dear Mr. Manurker:

Thank you for contacting me to express your opposition to Senator Bernard Sanders' amendment to the American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act of 2010. Your opinion is very important to me, and I acknowledge your concerns about this issue.

The amendment offered by Senator Sanders requires employers to certify that they have not and will not lay off a large number of employees before they are allowed to employ foreign workers. I strongly believe that priority should be given to American workers. However sometimes there are no available American citizens to fill key high-tech or high-skilled jobs. It is important for us to make sure that American citizens are being considered first to fill these roles and that employers are not hiring foreign nationals while laying off our own citizens.

Again, I thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. Please be assured that I will keep your views in mind. I encourage you to contact me if I can be of further assistance.

jjava100
07-01-2010, 04:07 PM
Thank you for contacting me to share your views about Senate Amendment 4319 to the American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act (H.R. 4213). I appreciate the time you have taken to correspond with me.



In my position as a United States Senator, I benefit greatly by hearing a wide spectrum of opinions expressed by Oregonians. I listen carefully to these views as I study each issue and decide how to vote on legislation which comes before the Senate. On any issue, I value your thoughts and ideas.



Again, I appreciate your feedback. I have made note of your concerns, and I will certainly keep them in mind. Please keep in touch.



All my best,

sage2006
07-01-2010, 04:47 PM
I think the new reference # for the Sanders Amendment is now
Senate Amendment 4439 to the American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act (H.R. 5297).. Correct??

People will be sending emails to senators with reference to the wrong amendment if this text is not corrected!!

GCHope2011
07-02-2010, 02:18 AM
To senators..

Pagal
07-02-2010, 02:45 AM
It will only take less then 1 minute of your time to click this link ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy -- OPPOSE the Sanders-Grassley-Harkin amendment S.AMDT.4319 in bill H.R.4213 which severely hurts Competitiveness, Innovation and creating jobs in America (http://immigrationvoice.capwiz.com/immigrationvoice/issues/alert/?alertid=15130466)


Hello,

Done...this is a neat tool! Makes advocacy fast and efficient!

dreamgc_real
07-02-2010, 10:21 AM
I think the new reference # for the Sanders Amendment is now
Senate Amendment 4439 to the American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act (H.R. 5297).. Correct??

People will be sending emails to senators with reference to the wrong amendment if this text is not corrected!!

Cannot find the change on the reference in thomas.gov

Sent the message to my senators

av2004
07-02-2010, 11:34 AM
Sent the e-mails to my senators.. Will update if there is any response back from the Senators. Thanks to IV for providing the simplified form!

venkataramesh
07-02-2010, 02:14 PM
Done

dreamgc_real
07-06-2010, 10:45 AM
sent the emails to my senators. Is there a way of sending it to the Senators Grassley, Harkin, Sanders themselves letting them know that we do not agree with their policies??

(Not that they will change their the minds, but if they do not see our logic, they will never waver in their intent)

ComputeCompute
07-22-2010, 07:39 PM
Did Amendment 4319 not pass? So what happened?

:confused:

slowwin
07-23-2010, 08:56 AM
now that the Small Business lending program has passed the 60 vote threshold, they would be putting Amndt. to it for vote. any idea, when sanders Amndt. will be vote on ?:mad: